Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility for
your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the wheel,
and the world is safer with you in recovery.

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
because
> it's worse than mine.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing
a
> >> recall?
> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back
clean
> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
> >> seemed
> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> > not?
> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> >>
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >>
> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link
from
> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> >> >
> >> > --HM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered
the
> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> >> >>
> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from
the
> >> >> gene pool.
> >> >>
> >> >> Steve
> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So
I
> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
> >> >>> member
> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
> >> >>> at
> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many
RPMs
> > my
> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like
I
> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided
I
> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
merged
> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
control
> > of
> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
found
> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily
I
> > hit
> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
> >> >>> side
> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
recall
> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> > that
> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
air
> > bag
> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> > speeds
> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> > true
> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> >> >>> // --HM
> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> > type
> >> >>> with thumbs.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

Thanks Doug, done.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:S27dd.74610$tU4.27251@okepread06...
> Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
>
> <snippies>
>
> Hey Matt, A simple way to prevent that is to
> customize the groups toolbar and remove the
> reply-to sender: button. It's easy enough to
> reply to sender by selecting Message>Reply to Sender.
>
> Just view the newsgroup then edit the toolbar.
>
> I've gotten in the habit of simply hitting Ctrl-G
> to reply to a message.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

 

Thanks Doug, done.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:S27dd.74610$tU4.27251@okepread06...
> Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
>
> <snippies>
>
> Hey Matt, A simple way to prevent that is to
> customize the groups toolbar and remove the
> reply-to sender: button. It's easy enough to
> reply to sender by selecting Message>Reply to Sender.
>
> Just view the newsgroup then edit the toolbar.
>
> I've gotten in the habit of simply hitting Ctrl-G
> to reply to a message.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

 

Thanks Doug, done.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:S27dd.74610$tU4.27251@okepread06...
> Matt Macchiarolo did pass the time by typing:
>
> <snippies>
>
> Hey Matt, A simple way to prevent that is to
> customize the groups toolbar and remove the
> reply-to sender: button. It's easy enough to
> reply to sender by selecting Message>Reply to Sender.
>
> Just view the newsgroup then edit the toolbar.
>
> I've gotten in the habit of simply hitting Ctrl-G
> to reply to a message.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

 

Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
tranny fluid.
Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
of "you" and "me".
Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.

--HM

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
news:41749af1$0$89397$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.co m...
> Many/most vehicles will roll with the right conditions. My mother (about
> the most cautious driver around) rolled a Pontiac car on its side and
> couldn't have been going more than 25-35 mph on a curvy road. There was
> snow on the edges, then she probably turned sharply and hit the brakes
> with
> the wrong balance and tripped a wheel on the snow. Amazingly the car had
> almost no damage.
>
> Tall trucks makes things worse. The Jeep CJs and Ford Bronco II had
> reputations for rolling decades ago, long before the Explorer took it
> mainstream.
>
> There's a chance your vehicle was defective, but I'd place a large bet
> that
> you are desperate to blame something other than yourself. Rationalization
> may make you feel better but isn't useful or pretty--particularly when you
> virtually admitted to reckless driving.
>
> -John
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:dZ%cd.83488$Ot3.25425@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Well ther yoy go I drove like that on those stretchs.. But the piece of
> junk
>> cant make a simple lane change at cruising speeds. It's a piece of crap
>> no
>> matter how much you try to put me down.The proof is in the groups earlier
>> responces that I did not heed. It happened just as they predicted. I
>> guess
>> they are wrong about the Liberty too. You must work for Chrysler or your
>> being as big a fool as I was when I ignored the group warnings. What I
>> should have done was taken it right back when Bill said I made a mistake.
> So
>> you take it how you want... But I think someone in the group said to me
> how
>> the wheels fall of, and the dashboard falls off. Must be why the dials
> were
>> crooked on mine.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> news:cl1lqv$ach$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> > Hmmmmmm.......................I wonder if his insurance company and the
>> > police knew how he drove his Liberty???!!!! But hey with a guy that
>> > drives
>> > as safe as this MUST have had a faulty liberty!!! lol
>> >
>> >>> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> it. So
>> >>>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all
> the
>> >>>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> only
>> >>>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC
>> >>>> driving 1
>> >>>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
>> >>>> stretches
>> >>>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to
>> >>>> break
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck
> breaking
>> >>>> 25
>> >>>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The
> fear
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40
> to
>> >>>> 50
>> >>>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a
> heavy
>> >>>> JGCL
>> >>>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out,
>> >>>> because
>> >>>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take
>> >>>> those
>> >>>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch
> of
>> >>>> road
>> >>>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
>> >>>> "especially
>> >>>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> really
>> >>>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to
>> >>>> type
>> >>>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's
>> >>>> roll
>> >>>> over
>> >>>> rating.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --HM
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
tranny fluid.
Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
of "you" and "me".
Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.

--HM

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
news:41749af1$0$89397$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.co m...
> Many/most vehicles will roll with the right conditions. My mother (about
> the most cautious driver around) rolled a Pontiac car on its side and
> couldn't have been going more than 25-35 mph on a curvy road. There was
> snow on the edges, then she probably turned sharply and hit the brakes
> with
> the wrong balance and tripped a wheel on the snow. Amazingly the car had
> almost no damage.
>
> Tall trucks makes things worse. The Jeep CJs and Ford Bronco II had
> reputations for rolling decades ago, long before the Explorer took it
> mainstream.
>
> There's a chance your vehicle was defective, but I'd place a large bet
> that
> you are desperate to blame something other than yourself. Rationalization
> may make you feel better but isn't useful or pretty--particularly when you
> virtually admitted to reckless driving.
>
> -John
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:dZ%cd.83488$Ot3.25425@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Well ther yoy go I drove like that on those stretchs.. But the piece of
> junk
>> cant make a simple lane change at cruising speeds. It's a piece of crap
>> no
>> matter how much you try to put me down.The proof is in the groups earlier
>> responces that I did not heed. It happened just as they predicted. I
>> guess
>> they are wrong about the Liberty too. You must work for Chrysler or your
>> being as big a fool as I was when I ignored the group warnings. What I
>> should have done was taken it right back when Bill said I made a mistake.
> So
>> you take it how you want... But I think someone in the group said to me
> how
>> the wheels fall of, and the dashboard falls off. Must be why the dials
> were
>> crooked on mine.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> news:cl1lqv$ach$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> > Hmmmmmm.......................I wonder if his insurance company and the
>> > police knew how he drove his Liberty???!!!! But hey with a guy that
>> > drives
>> > as safe as this MUST have had a faulty liberty!!! lol
>> >
>> >>> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> it. So
>> >>>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all
> the
>> >>>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> only
>> >>>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC
>> >>>> driving 1
>> >>>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
>> >>>> stretches
>> >>>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to
>> >>>> break
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck
> breaking
>> >>>> 25
>> >>>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The
> fear
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40
> to
>> >>>> 50
>> >>>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a
> heavy
>> >>>> JGCL
>> >>>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out,
>> >>>> because
>> >>>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take
>> >>>> those
>> >>>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch
> of
>> >>>> road
>> >>>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
>> >>>> "especially
>> >>>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> really
>> >>>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to
>> >>>> type
>> >>>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's
>> >>>> roll
>> >>>> over
>> >>>> rating.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --HM
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
tranny fluid.
Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
of "you" and "me".
Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.

--HM

"Generic" <generic@scientist.com> wrote in message
news:41749af1$0$89397$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.co m...
> Many/most vehicles will roll with the right conditions. My mother (about
> the most cautious driver around) rolled a Pontiac car on its side and
> couldn't have been going more than 25-35 mph on a curvy road. There was
> snow on the edges, then she probably turned sharply and hit the brakes
> with
> the wrong balance and tripped a wheel on the snow. Amazingly the car had
> almost no damage.
>
> Tall trucks makes things worse. The Jeep CJs and Ford Bronco II had
> reputations for rolling decades ago, long before the Explorer took it
> mainstream.
>
> There's a chance your vehicle was defective, but I'd place a large bet
> that
> you are desperate to blame something other than yourself. Rationalization
> may make you feel better but isn't useful or pretty--particularly when you
> virtually admitted to reckless driving.
>
> -John
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:dZ%cd.83488$Ot3.25425@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Well ther yoy go I drove like that on those stretchs.. But the piece of
> junk
>> cant make a simple lane change at cruising speeds. It's a piece of crap
>> no
>> matter how much you try to put me down.The proof is in the groups earlier
>> responces that I did not heed. It happened just as they predicted. I
>> guess
>> they are wrong about the Liberty too. You must work for Chrysler or your
>> being as big a fool as I was when I ignored the group warnings. What I
>> should have done was taken it right back when Bill said I made a mistake.
> So
>> you take it how you want... But I think someone in the group said to me
> how
>> the wheels fall of, and the dashboard falls off. Must be why the dials
> were
>> crooked on mine.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> news:cl1lqv$ach$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> > Hmmmmmm.......................I wonder if his insurance company and the
>> > police knew how he drove his Liberty???!!!! But hey with a guy that
>> > drives
>> > as safe as this MUST have had a faulty liberty!!! lol
>> >
>> >>> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> it. So
>> >>>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all
> the
>> >>>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> only
>> >>>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC
>> >>>> driving 1
>> >>>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
>> >>>> stretches
>> >>>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to
>> >>>> break
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck
> breaking
>> >>>> 25
>> >>>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The
> fear
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40
> to
>> >>>> 50
>> >>>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a
> heavy
>> >>>> JGCL
>> >>>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out,
>> >>>> because
>> >>>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take
>> >>>> those
>> >>>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch
> of
>> >>>> road
>> >>>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
>> >>>> "especially
>> >>>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> really
>> >>>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to
>> >>>> type
>> >>>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's
>> >>>> roll
>> >>>> over
>> >>>> rating.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --HM
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
tranny fluid.
Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
of "you" and "me".
Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.

--HM


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility for
> your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> wheel,
> and the world is safer with you in recovery.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> because
>> it's worse than mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
>> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>> >
>> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing
> a
>> >> recall?
>> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back
> clean
>> >> with only one other owner besides me.
>> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
>> >> had
>> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> >> seemed
>> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
>> > not?
>> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> >> appreciated. Thnx!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --HM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link
> from
>> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >> >
>> >> > --HM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered
> the
>> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from
> the
>> >> >> gene pool.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve
>> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So
> I
>> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >> >>> member
>> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
>> >> >>> patter
>> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many
> RPMs
>> > my
>> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
>> >> >>> like
> I
>> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided
> I
>> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> merged
>> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> control
>> > of
>> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> found
>> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily
> I
>> > hit
>> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >> >>> side
>> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> recall
>> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
>> >> >>> entire
>> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
>> > that
>> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> air
>> > bag
>> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
>> > speeds
>> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
>> > true
>> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >> >>> // --HM
>> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard
>> >> >>> to
>> > type
>> >> >>> with thumbs.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
tranny fluid.
Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
of "you" and "me".
Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.

--HM


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility for
> your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> wheel,
> and the world is safer with you in recovery.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> because
>> it's worse than mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
>> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>> >
>> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing
> a
>> >> recall?
>> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back
> clean
>> >> with only one other owner besides me.
>> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
>> >> had
>> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> >> seemed
>> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
>> > not?
>> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> >> appreciated. Thnx!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --HM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link
> from
>> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >> >
>> >> > --HM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered
> the
>> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from
> the
>> >> >> gene pool.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve
>> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So
> I
>> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >> >>> member
>> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
>> >> >>> patter
>> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many
> RPMs
>> > my
>> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
>> >> >>> like
> I
>> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided
> I
>> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> merged
>> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> control
>> > of
>> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> found
>> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily
> I
>> > hit
>> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >> >>> side
>> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> recall
>> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
>> >> >>> entire
>> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
>> > that
>> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> air
>> > bag
>> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
>> > speeds
>> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
>> > true
>> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >> >>> // --HM
>> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard
>> >> >>> to
>> > type
>> >> >>> with thumbs.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
tranny fluid.
Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
of "you" and "me".
Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.

--HM


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility for
> your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> wheel,
> and the world is safer with you in recovery.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> because
>> it's worse than mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
>> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>> >
>> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing
> a
>> >> recall?
>> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back
> clean
>> >> with only one other owner besides me.
>> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
>> >> had
>> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> >> seemed
>> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
>> > not?
>> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> >> appreciated. Thnx!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --HM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link
> from
>> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >> >
>> >> > --HM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered
> the
>> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from
> the
>> >> >> gene pool.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve
>> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So
> I
>> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >> >>> member
>> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
>> >> >>> patter
>> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many
> RPMs
>> > my
>> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
>> >> >>> like
> I
>> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided
> I
>> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> merged
>> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> control
>> > of
>> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> found
>> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily
> I
>> > hit
>> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >> >>> side
>> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> recall
>> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
>> >> >>> entire
>> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
>> > that
>> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> air
>> > bag
>> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
>> > speeds
>> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
>> > true
>> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >> >>> // --HM
>> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard
>> >> >>> to
>> > type
>> >> >>> with thumbs.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>