'02 JEEP Liberty Limited
10-18-2004, 11:40 PM
#191
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity, because
it's worse than mine.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing a
>> recall?
>> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back clean
>> with only one other owner besides me.
>> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
>> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> seemed
>> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> not?
>> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> appreciated. Thnx!
>>
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link from
>> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered the
>> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >>
>> >>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >>
>> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from the
>> >> gene pool.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
>> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >>> member
>> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
>> >>> at
>> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> my
>> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I
>> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
>> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
>> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> of
>> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found
>> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
> hit
>> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >>> side
>> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
>> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
>> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> that
>> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's air
> bag
>> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> speeds
>> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> true
>> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >>> // --HM
>> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> type
>> >>> with thumbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
it's worse than mine.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing a
>> recall?
>> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back clean
>> with only one other owner besides me.
>> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
>> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> seemed
>> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> not?
>> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> appreciated. Thnx!
>>
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link from
>> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered the
>> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >>
>> >>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >>
>> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from the
>> >> gene pool.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
>> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >>> member
>> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
>> >>> at
>> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> my
>> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I
>> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
>> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
>> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> of
>> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found
>> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
> hit
>> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >>> side
>> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
>> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
>> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> that
>> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's air
> bag
>> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> speeds
>> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> true
>> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >>> // --HM
>> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> type
>> >>> with thumbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
10-18-2004, 11:40 PM
#192
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Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity, because
it's worse than mine.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing a
>> recall?
>> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back clean
>> with only one other owner besides me.
>> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
>> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> seemed
>> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> not?
>> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> appreciated. Thnx!
>>
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link from
>> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered the
>> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >>
>> >>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >>
>> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from the
>> >> gene pool.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
>> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >>> member
>> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
>> >>> at
>> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> my
>> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I
>> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
>> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
>> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> of
>> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found
>> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
> hit
>> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >>> side
>> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
>> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
>> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> that
>> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's air
> bag
>> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> speeds
>> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> true
>> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >>> // --HM
>> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> type
>> >>> with thumbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
it's worse than mine.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing a
>> recall?
>> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back clean
>> with only one other owner besides me.
>> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
>> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> seemed
>> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> not?
>> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> appreciated. Thnx!
>>
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link from
>> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered the
>> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >>
>> >>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >>
>> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from the
>> >> gene pool.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
>> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >>> member
>> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
>> >>> at
>> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> my
>> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I
>> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
>> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
>> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> of
>> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found
>> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
> hit
>> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >>> side
>> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
>> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
>> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> that
>> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's air
> bag
>> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> speeds
>> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> true
>> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >>> // --HM
>> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> type
>> >>> with thumbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
10-18-2004, 11:40 PM
#193
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity, because
it's worse than mine.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing a
>> recall?
>> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back clean
>> with only one other owner besides me.
>> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
>> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> seemed
>> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> not?
>> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> appreciated. Thnx!
>>
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link from
>> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered the
>> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >>
>> >>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >>
>> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from the
>> >> gene pool.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
>> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >>> member
>> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
>> >>> at
>> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> my
>> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I
>> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
>> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
>> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> of
>> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found
>> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
> hit
>> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >>> side
>> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
>> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
>> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> that
>> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's air
> bag
>> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> speeds
>> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> true
>> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >>> // --HM
>> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> type
>> >>> with thumbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
it's worse than mine.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing a
>> recall?
>> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back clean
>> with only one other owner besides me.
>> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself had
>> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
>> seemed
>> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> not?
>> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
>> appreciated. Thnx!
>>
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
>> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link from
>> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered the
>> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
>> >>
>> >>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
>> >>
>> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
>> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from the
>> >> gene pool.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
>> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I
>> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
>> >>> member
>> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
>> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter
>> >>> at
>> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs
> my
>> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I
>> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
>> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I
>> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged
>> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
> of
>> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found
>> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
> hit
>> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
>> >>> side
>> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall
>> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire
>> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> that
>> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's air
> bag
>> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> speeds
>> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
>> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> true
>> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
>> >>> // --HM
>> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to
> type
>> >>> with thumbs.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
10-19-2004, 12:11 AM
#194
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
> --HM
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
> --HM
10-19-2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
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"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
> --HM
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
> --HM
10-19-2004, 12:11 AM
#196
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
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"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
> --HM
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ter.nyc.rr.com
"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
> --HM
10-19-2004, 12:37 AM
#197
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Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
You DO understand the concept of wrapping URLs in Usenet and how to unwrap
them, right?
Tirya
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
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>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:EKqdnV2lU89rxencRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> > And this one:
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...t3.19231%40twi
> > ster.nyc.rr.com
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:ojWcd.173257$4h7.31380243@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> Oh, I get it now he is the troll not me. Thnx.
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41742E01.8A82D82F@***.net...
> >> > He's just a troll, and doing a better job at it than most.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.
> >> >>
> >> >> You sir are a liar!
> >> >>
> >> >> First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if
> > anyone
> >> >> thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
> >> >> deal was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you
> > have
> >> >> wrecked it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Go away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
them, right?
Tirya
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:M_%cd.83489$Ot3.21585@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:EKqdnV2lU89rxencRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> > And this one:
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...t3.19231%40twi
> > ster.nyc.rr.com
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:ojWcd.173257$4h7.31380243@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> Oh, I get it now he is the troll not me. Thnx.
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41742E01.8A82D82F@***.net...
> >> > He's just a troll, and doing a better job at it than most.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.
> >> >>
> >> >> You sir are a liar!
> >> >>
> >> >> First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if
> > anyone
> >> >> thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
> >> >> deal was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you
> > have
> >> >> wrecked it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Go away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-19-2004, 12:37 AM
#198
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
You DO understand the concept of wrapping URLs in Usenet and how to unwrap
them, right?
Tirya
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:M_%cd.83489$Ot3.21585@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:EKqdnV2lU89rxencRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> > And this one:
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...t3.19231%40twi
> > ster.nyc.rr.com
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:ojWcd.173257$4h7.31380243@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> Oh, I get it now he is the troll not me. Thnx.
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41742E01.8A82D82F@***.net...
> >> > He's just a troll, and doing a better job at it than most.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.
> >> >>
> >> >> You sir are a liar!
> >> >>
> >> >> First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if
> > anyone
> >> >> thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
> >> >> deal was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you
> > have
> >> >> wrecked it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Go away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
them, right?
Tirya
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:M_%cd.83489$Ot3.21585@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:EKqdnV2lU89rxencRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> > And this one:
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...t3.19231%40twi
> > ster.nyc.rr.com
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:ojWcd.173257$4h7.31380243@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> Oh, I get it now he is the troll not me. Thnx.
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41742E01.8A82D82F@***.net...
> >> > He's just a troll, and doing a better job at it than most.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.
> >> >>
> >> >> You sir are a liar!
> >> >>
> >> >> First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if
> > anyone
> >> >> thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
> >> >> deal was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you
> > have
> >> >> wrecked it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Go away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-19-2004, 12:37 AM
#199
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
You DO understand the concept of wrapping URLs in Usenet and how to unwrap
them, right?
Tirya
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:M_%cd.83489$Ot3.21585@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:EKqdnV2lU89rxencRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> > And this one:
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...t3.19231%40twi
> > ster.nyc.rr.com
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:ojWcd.173257$4h7.31380243@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> Oh, I get it now he is the troll not me. Thnx.
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41742E01.8A82D82F@***.net...
> >> > He's just a troll, and doing a better job at it than most.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.
> >> >>
> >> >> You sir are a liar!
> >> >>
> >> >> First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if
> > anyone
> >> >> thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
> >> >> deal was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you
> > have
> >> >> wrecked it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Go away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
them, right?
Tirya
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:M_%cd.83489$Ot3.21585@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> Message id or article number 3saad.72330$Ot3.19231@twi not found
>
> your links lead no where. Just like you. So why don't you just give it a
> rest. Or are you some kind of expert?
>
>
> --HM
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:EKqdnV2lU89rxencRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> > And this one:
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...t3.19231%40twi
> > ster.nyc.rr.com
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:ojWcd.173257$4h7.31380243@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> Oh, I get it now he is the troll not me. Thnx.
> >>
> >> --HM
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41742E01.8A82D82F@***.net...
> >> > He's just a troll, and doing a better job at it than most.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It is not 'it' that I have problems taking seriously, it's 'you'.
> >> >>
> >> >> You sir are a liar!
> >> >>
> >> >> First off you did not come here asking advise, you came asking if
> > anyone
> >> >> thinks you made a mistake buying it or trading for it long after the
> >> >> deal was done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you 'sold' it or traded it for a '02 JGCL on 10/10/04, now you
> > have
> >> >> wrecked it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Go away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-19-2004, 12:44 AM
#200
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited - Troll Alert!
Many/most vehicles will roll with the right conditions. My mother (about
the most cautious driver around) rolled a Pontiac car on its side and
couldn't have been going more than 25-35 mph on a curvy road. There was
snow on the edges, then she probably turned sharply and hit the brakes with
the wrong balance and tripped a wheel on the snow. Amazingly the car had
almost no damage.
Tall trucks makes things worse. The Jeep CJs and Ford Bronco II had
reputations for rolling decades ago, long before the Explorer took it
mainstream.
There's a chance your vehicle was defective, but I'd place a large bet that
you are desperate to blame something other than yourself. Rationalization
may make you feel better but isn't useful or pretty--particularly when you
virtually admitted to reckless driving.
-John
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:dZ%cd.83488$Ot3.25425@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Well ther yoy go I drove like that on those stretchs.. But the piece of
junk
> cant make a simple lane change at cruising speeds. It's a piece of crap no
> matter how much you try to put me down.The proof is in the groups earlier
> responces that I did not heed. It happened just as they predicted. I guess
> they are wrong about the Liberty too. You must work for Chrysler or your
> being as big a fool as I was when I ignored the group warnings. What I
> should have done was taken it right back when Bill said I made a mistake.
So
> you take it how you want... But I think someone in the group said to me
how
> the wheels fall of, and the dashboard falls off. Must be why the dials
were
> crooked on mine.
>
> --HM
>
> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
> news:cl1lqv$ach$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> > Hmmmmmm.......................I wonder if his insurance company and the
> > police knew how he drove his Liberty???!!!! But hey with a guy that
> > drives
> > as safe as this MUST have had a faulty liberty!!! lol
> >
> >>> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on
> >>>> it. So
> >>>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all
the
> >>>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is
> >>>> only
> >>>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC
> >>>> driving 1
> >>>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
> >>>> stretches
> >>>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to
> >>>> break
> >>>> in
> >>>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck
breaking
> >>>> 25
> >>>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The
fear
> >>>> of
> >>>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40
to
> >>>> 50
> >>>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a
heavy
> >>>> JGCL
> >>>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out,
> >>>> because
> >>>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take
> >>>> those
> >>>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch
of
> >>>> road
> >>>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
> >>>> "especially
> >>>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there
> >>>> and
> >>>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I
> >>>> really
> >>>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to
> >>>> type
> >>>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll
> >>>> over
> >>>> rating.
> >>>>
> >>>> --HM
> >
> >
>
>
the most cautious driver around) rolled a Pontiac car on its side and
couldn't have been going more than 25-35 mph on a curvy road. There was
snow on the edges, then she probably turned sharply and hit the brakes with
the wrong balance and tripped a wheel on the snow. Amazingly the car had
almost no damage.
Tall trucks makes things worse. The Jeep CJs and Ford Bronco II had
reputations for rolling decades ago, long before the Explorer took it
mainstream.
There's a chance your vehicle was defective, but I'd place a large bet that
you are desperate to blame something other than yourself. Rationalization
may make you feel better but isn't useful or pretty--particularly when you
virtually admitted to reckless driving.
-John
"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:dZ%cd.83488$Ot3.25425@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Well ther yoy go I drove like that on those stretchs.. But the piece of
junk
> cant make a simple lane change at cruising speeds. It's a piece of crap no
> matter how much you try to put me down.The proof is in the groups earlier
> responces that I did not heed. It happened just as they predicted. I guess
> they are wrong about the Liberty too. You must work for Chrysler or your
> being as big a fool as I was when I ignored the group warnings. What I
> should have done was taken it right back when Bill said I made a mistake.
So
> you take it how you want... But I think someone in the group said to me
how
> the wheels fall of, and the dashboard falls off. Must be why the dials
were
> crooked on mine.
>
> --HM
>
> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
> news:cl1lqv$ach$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> > Hmmmmmm.......................I wonder if his insurance company and the
> > police knew how he drove his Liberty???!!!! But hey with a guy that
> > drives
> > as safe as this MUST have had a faulty liberty!!! lol
> >
> >>> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know enough about its capabilities yet... But I am working on
> >>>> it. So
> >>>> far all records indicate that this JEEP has been refitted with all
the
> >>>> modified parts to keep it road worthy. I guess the road worth part is
> >>>> only
> >>>> as good and the modified parts.So far I have given it the old NYC
> >>>> driving 1
> >>>> 2 punch and its help up pretty good. I opened her up on the upper
> >>>> stretches
> >>>> of Manhattan section of the Henry Hudson Parkway (were folks go to
> >>>> break
> >>>> in
> >>>> their high performance cars) That particular section has neck
breaking
> >>>> 25
> >>>> mph curves that are real fun in a small high performance car. The
fear
> >>>> of
> >>>> God in you if you drive any thing else through there faster than 40
to
> >>>> 50
> >>>> mph. If you know what your doing and how to do it you can take a
heavy
> >>>> JGCL
> >>>> through there at up to 65 mph making the other drivers freak out,
> >>>> because
> >>>> they think you are going to crack up at any time. My ZJ could take
> >>>> those
> >>>> curves like a Mazda! "Please do not try out that particular stretch
of
> >>>> road
> >>>> at high speeds if you do not know the dos and don't of any JGCL.
> >>>> "especially
> >>>> if you drive a Laredo type". Anyway today I took the Liberty up there
> >>>> and
> >>>> opend it up and was able to take the 25 mph curves at just over 50. I
> >>>> really
> >>>> felt that if I would have asked for more that I might not be here to
> >>>> type
> >>>> this tonight. So caution to those who would ignore the Liberty's roll
> >>>> over
> >>>> rating.
> >>>>
> >>>> --HM
> >
> >
>
>