You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
or mechanical failure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
> would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
> in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
> more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
> and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
> line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
> fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
> course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
> reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
> over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
> practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
> was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
> cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
> have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
> dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
> cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> tranny fluid.
> Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
> it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
> have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
> total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
> know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
> family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
> and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
> of "you" and "me".
> Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
>
> --HM
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility for
> > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > wheel,
> > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > because
> >> it's worse than mine.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> >> >
> >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing
> > a
> >> >> recall?
> >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back
> > clean
> >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
> >> >> had
> >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
> >> >> seemed
> >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> >> > not?
> >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
> >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --HM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link
> > from
> >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --HM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered
> > the
> >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
> >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from
> > the
> >> >> >> gene pool.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Steve
> >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So
> > I
> >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
> >> >> >>> member
> >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
> >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> >> >> >>> patter
> >> >> >>> at
> >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many
> > RPMs
> >> > my
> >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
> >> >> >>> like
> > I
> >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
> >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided
> > I
> >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> > merged
> >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> > control
> >> > of
> >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> > found
> >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily
> > I
> >> > hit
> >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
> >> >> >>> side
> >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> > recall
> >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> >> >> >>> entire
> >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> >> > that
> >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> > air
> >> > bag
> >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> >> > speeds
> >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
> >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> >> > true
> >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> >> >> >>> // --HM
> >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard
> >> >> >>> to
> >> > type
> >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
or mechanical failure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"TechCityPC.com" wrote:
>
> Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If this
> would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even be
> in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip in
> more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to disagree
> and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that some
> line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
> fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
> course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was the
> reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
> over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured at
> practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that I
> was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with either a
> cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
> have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy that
> dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would have
> cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> tranny fluid.
> Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you stain
> it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know and
> have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
> total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
> know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only my
> family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another Macchiarolo
> and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***" out
> of "you" and "me".
> Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
>
> --HM
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility for
> > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > wheel,
> > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > because
> >> it's worse than mine.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> >> >
> >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering thing
> > a
> >> >> recall?
> >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes back
> > clean
> >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
> >> >> had
> >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the handling
> >> >> seemed
> >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that are
> >> > not?
> >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are greatly
> >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --HM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the link
> > from
> >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --HM
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later lowered
> > the
> >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car, the
> >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA from
> > the
> >> >> >> gene pool.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Steve
> >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So
> > I
> >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that
> >> >> >>> member
> >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that
> >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> >> >> >>> patter
> >> >> >>> at
> >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many
> > RPMs
> >> > my
> >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
> >> >> >>> like
> > I
> >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a
> >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided
> > I
> >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> > merged
> >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> > control
> >> > of
> >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I
> > found
> >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily
> > I
> >> > hit
> >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on its
> >> >> >>> side
> >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> > recall
> >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> >> >> >>> entire
> >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would think
> >> > that
> >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the driver's
> > air
> >> > bag
> >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at these
> >> > speeds
> >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe that
> >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a
> >> > true
> >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> >> >> >>> // --HM
> >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard
> >> >> >>> to
> >> > type
> >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

And I still think he's a lying troll. He thought tranny fluid was gasoline?

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:417564C6.96C02F40@***.net...
> You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
> there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
> or mechanical failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If
this
> > would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even
be
> > in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip
in
> > more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to
disagree
> > and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that
some
> > line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
> > fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
> > course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was
the
> > reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
> > over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured
at
> > practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that
I
> > was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with
either a
> > cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
> > have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy
that
> > dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would
have
> > cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> > tranny fluid.
> > Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you
stain
> > it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know
and
> > have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or
insulting
> > total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos
that I
> > know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only
my
> > family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> > though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
Macchiarolo
> > and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> > Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***"
out
> > of "you" and "me".
> > Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
> >
> > --HM
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility
for
> > > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > > wheel,
> > > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> > >
> > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > > because
> > >> it's worse than mine.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> > >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> > >> >
> > >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering
thing
> > > a
> > >> >> recall?
> > >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes
back
> > > clean
> > >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> > >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
> > >> >> had
> > >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the
handling
> > >> >> seemed
> > >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that
are
> > >> > not?
> > >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are
greatly
> > >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --HM
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> > >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the
link
> > > from
> > >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --HM
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later
lowered
> > > the
> > >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >
> > >
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car,
the
> > >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA
from
> > > the
> > >> >> >> gene pool.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Steve
> > >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> > >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and
out. So
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To
that
> > >> >> >>> member
> > >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
that
> > >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> > >> >> >>> patter
> > >> >> >>> at
> > >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how
many
> > > RPMs
> > >> > my
> > >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
> > >> >> >>> like
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under
a
> > >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I
decided
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> > > merged
> > >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> > > control
> > >> > of
> > >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
I
> > > found
> > >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
Luckily
> > > I
> > >> > hit
> > >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on
its
> > >> >> >>> side
> > >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> > > recall
> > >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> > >> >> >>> entire
> > >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would
think
> > >> > that
> > >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the
driver's
> > > air
> > >> > bag
> > >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
these
> > >> > speeds
> > >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe
that
> > >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not
own a
> > >> > true
> > >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> > >> >> >>> // --HM
> > >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's
hard
> > >> >> >>> to
> > >> > type
> > >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

 

And I still think he's a lying troll. He thought tranny fluid was gasoline?

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:417564C6.96C02F40@***.net...
> You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
> there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
> or mechanical failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If
this
> > would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even
be
> > in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip
in
> > more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to
disagree
> > and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that
some
> > line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
> > fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
> > course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was
the
> > reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
> > over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured
at
> > practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that
I
> > was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with
either a
> > cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
> > have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy
that
> > dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would
have
> > cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> > tranny fluid.
> > Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you
stain
> > it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know
and
> > have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or
insulting
> > total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos
that I
> > know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only
my
> > family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> > though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
Macchiarolo
> > and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> > Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***"
out
> > of "you" and "me".
> > Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
> >
> > --HM
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility
for
> > > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > > wheel,
> > > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> > >
> > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > > because
> > >> it's worse than mine.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> > >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> > >> >
> > >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering
thing
> > > a
> > >> >> recall?
> > >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes
back
> > > clean
> > >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> > >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
> > >> >> had
> > >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the
handling
> > >> >> seemed
> > >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that
are
> > >> > not?
> > >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are
greatly
> > >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --HM
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> > >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the
link
> > > from
> > >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --HM
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later
lowered
> > > the
> > >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >
> > >
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car,
the
> > >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA
from
> > > the
> > >> >> >> gene pool.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Steve
> > >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> > >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and
out. So
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To
that
> > >> >> >>> member
> > >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
that
> > >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> > >> >> >>> patter
> > >> >> >>> at
> > >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how
many
> > > RPMs
> > >> > my
> > >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
> > >> >> >>> like
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under
a
> > >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I
decided
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> > > merged
> > >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> > > control
> > >> > of
> > >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
I
> > > found
> > >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
Luckily
> > > I
> > >> > hit
> > >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on
its
> > >> >> >>> side
> > >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> > > recall
> > >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> > >> >> >>> entire
> > >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would
think
> > >> > that
> > >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the
driver's
> > > air
> > >> > bag
> > >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
these
> > >> > speeds
> > >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe
that
> > >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not
own a
> > >> > true
> > >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> > >> >> >>> // --HM
> > >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's
hard
> > >> >> >>> to
> > >> > type
> > >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

 

And I still think he's a lying troll. He thought tranny fluid was gasoline?

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:417564C6.96C02F40@***.net...
> You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
> there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
> or mechanical failure.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If
this
> > would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not even
be
> > in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my flip
in
> > more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to
disagree
> > and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that
some
> > line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started spraying
> > fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that of
> > course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was
the
> > reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I was
> > over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have occured
at
> > practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky that
I
> > was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with
either a
> > cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I could
> > have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy
that
> > dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo would
have
> > cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> > tranny fluid.
> > Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you
stain
> > it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I know
and
> > have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or
insulting
> > total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos
that I
> > know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only
my
> > family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> > though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
Macchiarolo
> > and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> > Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an "***"
out
> > of "you" and "me".
> > Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
> >
> > --HM
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take responsibility
for
> > > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > > wheel,
> > > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> > >
> > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > > because
> > >> it's worse than mine.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> > >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> > >> >
> > >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering
thing
> > > a
> > >> >> recall?
> > >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes
back
> > > clean
> > >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> > >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I myself
> > >> >> had
> > >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the
handling
> > >> >> seemed
> > >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones that
are
> > >> > not?
> > >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are
greatly
> > >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --HM
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> > >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the
link
> > > from
> > >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --HM
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later
lowered
> > > the
> > >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >
> > >
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car,
the
> > >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA
from
> > > the
> > >> >> >> gene pool.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Steve
> > >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> > >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and
out. So
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To
that
> > >> >> >>> member
> > >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
that
> > >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> > >> >> >>> patter
> > >> >> >>> at
> > >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how
many
> > > RPMs
> > >> > my
> > >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway
> > >> >> >>> like
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under
a
> > >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I
decided
> > > I
> > >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and
> > > merged
> > >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total
> > > control
> > >> > of
> > >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now
I
> > > found
> > >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
Luckily
> > > I
> > >> > hit
> > >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was on
its
> > >> >> >>> side
> > >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I
> > > recall
> > >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> > >> >> >>> entire
> > >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would
think
> > >> > that
> > >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the
driver's
> > > air
> > >> > bag
> > >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
these
> > >> > speeds
> > >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I believe
that
> > >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not
own a
> > >> > true
> > >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> > >> >> >>> // --HM
> > >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's
hard
> > >> >> >>> to
> > >> > type
> > >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

 

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:jM9dd.31247$4C.6401327@twister.nyc.rr.com...
The Macchiarolos that I know and
> have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
> total strangers, it's a shame.

Like implying that you are trying to solicit oral --- from my mother, which
you privately emailed me:
----- Original Message -----
From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
To: "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchiarolo@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited


> You mother, something about her wanting to blow me.
>
>
>

Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
> know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only
my
> family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
Macchiarolo
> and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.

Even without your incredibly deep insight into my family tree, I already
know most everyone with in the country that is not in my immediate family
are my cousins. Most of them live in the NY-PA-CT area. And they would have
nothing to do with sniveling, lying Usenet trolls such as yourself. But I
guess lying comes naturally to you, after all, every time you ask your mom
who your daddy is, she provides a different name.

 

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:jM9dd.31247$4C.6401327@twister.nyc.rr.com...
The Macchiarolos that I know and
> have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
> total strangers, it's a shame.

Like implying that you are trying to solicit oral --- from my mother, which
you privately emailed me:
----- Original Message -----
From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
To: "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchiarolo@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited


> You mother, something about her wanting to blow me.
>
>
>

Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
> know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only
my
> family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
Macchiarolo
> and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.

Even without your incredibly deep insight into my family tree, I already
know most everyone with in the country that is not in my immediate family
are my cousins. Most of them live in the NY-PA-CT area. And they would have
nothing to do with sniveling, lying Usenet trolls such as yourself. But I
guess lying comes naturally to you, after all, every time you ask your mom
who your daddy is, she provides a different name.

 

"TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
news:jM9dd.31247$4C.6401327@twister.nyc.rr.com...
The Macchiarolos that I know and
> have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or insulting
> total strangers, it's a shame.

Like implying that you are trying to solicit oral --- from my mother, which
you privately emailed me:
----- Original Message -----
From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
To: "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchiarolo@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited


> You mother, something about her wanting to blow me.
>
>
>

Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos that I
> know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to only
my
> family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
Macchiarolo
> and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.

Even without your incredibly deep insight into my family tree, I already
know most everyone with in the country that is not in my immediate family
are my cousins. Most of them live in the NY-PA-CT area. And they would have
nothing to do with sniveling, lying Usenet trolls such as yourself. But I
guess lying comes naturally to you, after all, every time you ask your mom
who your daddy is, she provides a different name.

 

I agree.

-John

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:-bednZBfL_Jr7ejcRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> And I still think he's a lying troll. He thought tranny fluid was
gasoline?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:417564C6.96C02F40@***.net...
> > You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
> > there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
> > or mechanical failure.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If
> this
> > > would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not
even
> be
> > > in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my
flip
> in
> > > more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to
> disagree
> > > and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that
> some
> > > line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started
spraying
> > > fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that
of
> > > course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was
> the
> > > reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I
was
> > > over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have
occured
> at
> > > practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky
that
> I
> > > was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with
> either a
> > > cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I
could
> > > have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy
> that
> > > dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo
would
> have
> > > cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> > > tranny fluid.
> > > Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you
> stain
> > > it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I
know
> and
> > > have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or
> insulting
> > > total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos
> that I
> > > know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to
only
> my
> > > family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> > > though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
> Macchiarolo
> > > and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> > > Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an
"***"
> out
> > > of "you" and "me".
> > > Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
> > >
> > > --HM
> > >
> > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > > news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > > > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take
responsibility
> for
> > > > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > > > wheel,
> > > > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> > > >
> > > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > > > because
> > > >> it's worse than mine.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> > > >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > > >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering
> thing
> > > > a
> > > >> >> recall?
> > > >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes
> back
> > > > clean
> > > >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> > > >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I
myself
> > > >> >> had
> > > >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the
> handling
> > > >> >> seemed
> > > >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones
that
> are
> > > >> > not?
> > > >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are
> greatly
> > > >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --HM
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> > > >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the
> link
> > > > from
> > > >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > --HM
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later
> lowered
> > > > the
> > > >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car,
> the
> > > >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA
> from
> > > > the
> > > >> >> >> gene pool.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Steve
> > > >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> > > >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and
> out. So
> > > > I
> > > >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To
> that
> > > >> >> >>> member
> > > >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
> that
> > > >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> > > >> >> >>> patter
> > > >> >> >>> at
> > > >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how
> many
> > > > RPMs
> > > >> > my
> > > >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road
conditions.Anyway
> > > >> >> >>> like
> > > > I
> > > >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great
under
> a
> > > >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I
> decided
> > > > I
> > > >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal
and
> > > > merged
> > > >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost
total
> > > > control
> > > >> > of
> > > >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
Now
> I
> > > > found
> > > >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
> Luckily
> > > > I
> > > >> > hit
> > > >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was
on
> its
> > > >> >> >>> side
> > > >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if
I
> > > > recall
> > > >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> > > >> >> >>> entire
> > > >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would
> think
> > > >> > that
> > > >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the
> driver's
> > > > air
> > > >> > bag
> > > >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
> these
> > > >> > speeds
> > > >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I
believe
> that
> > > >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not
> own a
> > > >> > true
> > > >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> > > >> >> >>> // --HM
> > > >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's
> hard
> > > >> >> >>> to
> > > >> > type
> > > >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

 

I agree.

-John

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:-bednZBfL_Jr7ejcRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> And I still think he's a lying troll. He thought tranny fluid was
gasoline?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:417564C6.96C02F40@***.net...
> > You might look a little harder at your wreck. In every accident
> > there are two of three things involved, driver error, road conditions,
> > or mechanical failure.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "TechCityPC.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I can admit to when I'm wrong or wreckless as I already have. If
> this
> > > would have happened while I was being reckless I probably would not
even
> be
> > > in the group discussing what happened. I'm sure I contributed to my
flip
> in
> > > more ways than none. But Rob from Progressive Insurance seems to
> disagree
> > > and gave me the following news this morning just gave. Turns out that
> some
> > > line to the transmission burst, broke, or what ever, it started
spraying
> > > fluid all over under my car creating my own personal fluid slick that
of
> > > course traveled with me. The kid at Progressive also said that it was
> the
> > > reason that every time I tried to correct the car it behaved as if I
was
> > > over correcting. In the end I'm told that a crack up would have
occured
> at
> > > practicaly any highway speed. And finally I'm told that I was lucky
that
> I
> > > was "not" speeding because this type of accident usually ends with
> either a
> > > cripple or a fatality. I still believe though that if I knew how I
could
> > > have brought the vehicle back under control... But the Progressive guy
> that
> > > dismanteled the Liberty said even a pro like Mr. Matt Macchiarolo
would
> have
> > > cracked up. I guess all that fluid I thought was gasoline was actually
> > > tranny fluid.
> > > Hey Matt I recognize that fine family name of yours, it's a shame you
> stain
> > > it by speaking the way you do to strangers. The Macchiarolos that I
know
> and
> > > have met would not be caught dead mistreating, disrespecting, or
> insulting
> > > total strangers, it's a shame. Please don't tell me the Macchiarolos
> that I
> > > know are not related to you, because like my family name belongs to
only
> my
> > > family. I know this to be true of the Macchiarolo family name and even
> > > though you might not know it, but when ever you run into another
> Macchiarolo
> > > and dig deep enough you will dicover that person is related to you.
> > > Anyway there you go: when you "***" "u" "me" (assume) you make an
"***"
> out
> > > of "you" and "me".
> > > Be well JEEPsters and thanks for "all" the feed back. Even yours Matt.
> > >
> > > --HM
> > >
> > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > > news:jOmdnVcJAfcTZuncRVn-2A@comcast.com...
> > > > Sorry, you win the fool contest. Time to grow up, take
responsibility
> for
> > > > your own actions, and face the fact that you are a menace behind the
> > > > wheel,
> > > > and the world is safer with you in recovery.
> > > >
> > > > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:s00dd.83490$Ot3.41988@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > >> I see your a fool. And I will no long contribute to your stupidity,
> > > > because
> > > >> it's worse than mine.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:NL-dnXKxm9yqyuncRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> > > >> > Make sure you call Bill as your first witness at the trial.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:2qWcd.173258$4h7.31381424@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > > >> >> How do I find out if mine was lowered and is this whole lowering
> thing
> > > > a
> > > >> >> recall?
> > > >> >> When I punch in my vin at the JEEP website and carfax it comes
> back
> > > > clean
> > > >> >> with only one other owner besides me.
> > > >> >> Were they supposed to lower it before giving it up to me? I
myself
> > > >> >> had
> > > >> >> taken my Liberty to high speeds with no problems, even the
> handling
> > > >> >> seemed
> > > >> >> good. Are the lowered ones any less problematic than the ones
that
> are
> > > >> > not?
> > > >> >> Have you ever driven one that wasn't lowered? You replied are
> greatly
> > > >> >> appreciated. Thnx!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --HM
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> news:gTScd.82103$Ot3.8352@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > >> >> > LOL! Please don't make me laugh it still hurts.
> > > >> >> > Thanks for the link I hadn't even see that one. I did see the
> link
> > > > from
> > > >> >> > Bill that took me to the Highway Safter site.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > --HM
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:2ti4gpF1vs3b1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> >> >> DC got a 2-star rollover rating with the 2002 KJ and later
> lowered
> > > > the
> > > >> >> >> suspension to get a better 3-star rating:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...kj_lowered.asp
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Sounds to me like yours had the 2-star.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Even so, if you persist in driving any SUV like a sports car,
> the
> > > >> >> >> Darwinian effect will eventually kick in and remove your DNA
> from
> > > > the
> > > >> >> >> gene pool.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Steve
> > > >> >> >> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TechCityPC.com wrote:
> > > >> >> >>> Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and
> out. So
> > > > I
> > > >> >> >>> couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To
> that
> > > >> >> >>> member
> > > >> >> >>> that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
> that
> > > >> >> >>> Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full
> > > >> >> >>> patter
> > > >> >> >>> at
> > > >> >> >>> about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how
> many
> > > > RPMs
> > > >> > my
> > > >> >> >>> engine is cycling at certain speeds and road
conditions.Anyway
> > > >> >> >>> like
> > > > I
> > > >> >> >>> said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great
under
> a
> > > >> >> >>> perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I
> decided
> > > > I
> > > >> >> >>> wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal
and
> > > > merged
> > > >> >> >>> right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost
total
> > > > control
> > > >> > of
> > > >> >> >>> it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
Now
> I
> > > > found
> > > >> >> >>> myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control.
> Luckily
> > > > I
> > > >> > hit
> > > >> >> >>> no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing <mailto:F@&#ing> was
on
> its
> > > >> >> >>> side
> > > >> >> >>> doing the death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if
I
> > > > recall
> > > >> >> >>> correctly it slid for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my
> > > >> >> >>> entire
> > > >> >> >>> body, broke one wrist and badly injured the other. You would
> think
> > > >> > that
> > > >> >> >>> after a catastrophic event like that, that at least the
> driver's
> > > > air
> > > >> > bag
> > > >> >> >>> would deploy. Either way no car should behave like this at
> these
> > > >> > speeds
> > > >> >> >>> and road conditions. This I believe is true just as I
believe
> that
> > > >> >> >>> Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not
> own a
> > > >> > true
> > > >> >> >>> JEEP. /'walks away with head down in shame'/
> > > >> >> >>> // --HM
> > > >> >> >>> P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's
> hard
> > > >> >> >>> to
> > > >> > type
> > > >> >> >>> with thumbs.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
>
>