I get it now.

--HM

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:d2Rcd.10818$xb.6186@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> nobody is claiming to be an expert ; that was my point.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:SHQcd.30933$4C.6138573@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> I don't know who is claiming to be an expert... But again I am only
>> "repeating" what the group told me when I asked if I made a mistake in
>> getting the Liberty.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Y9Qcd.10786$xb.128@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
>> > "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> > news:cl0i1g$v5l$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> >>
>> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> >> > why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the
> insurance
>> >> > company says ?
>> >>
>> >> Fine - except I don't agree someone saying that the Liberty is
>> >> inhently
>> >> unsafe - particulalry when the police report says something different
>> >>
>> > for sure, I would assume all Liberties *are* safe (otherwise we would
> have
>> > heard more about it). In fact, with the Liberty's lower ground
> clearance,
>> > I
>> > could be convinced it is more safe than other Jeeps. What his one was
> like
>> > is another matter ; he isn't claiming he is a Liberty expert, and you
>> > don't
>> > necessarily expect someone to be 100% objective after a highway flip.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Oh, I see I don't reply to those that insult, etc., etc...
Thank for the info.

--HM

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:CbWdnbheSKdjdO7cRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame29.html
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:1JQcd.30934$4C.6138847@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Bill,
>> What is a troll?
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>> > Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>> > Path:
>> >
> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***
> .net!***.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cycl one.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-ou
> t.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!no t-for-mail
>> > From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>> > Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>> > Lines: 97
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
>> > X-Priority: 3
>> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>> > Message-ID: <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>
>> > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:22:04 GMT
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.193.47.104
>> > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
>> > X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1098037324 24.193.47.104 (Sun, 17 Oct 2004
>> > 14:22:04 EDT)
>> > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:04 EDT
>> > Organization: Road Runner - NYC
>> > Xref: east.***.net rec.autos.makers.jeep+******:530085
>> > X-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:00 EDT (news1.central.***.net)
>> >
>> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>> > couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>> > =
>> > that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>> > Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>> > =
>> > about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>> > =
>> > engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>> > said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>> > perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>> > wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>> > right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>> > of
>> > =
>> > it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>> > myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>> > hit
>> > =
>> > no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>> > slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>> > =
>> > for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>> > =
>> > and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>> > =
>> > event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>> > Either
>> > =
>> > way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>> > =
>> > This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>> > JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>> > with
>> > =
>> > head down in shame'
>> >
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> > P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>> > =
>> > with thumbs.
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>> > Content-Type: text/html;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> > <HTML><HEAD>
>> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> > <STYLE></STYLE>
>> > </HEAD>
>> > <BODY>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>> > "was" beautiful=20
>> > in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>> > crow.
>> > =
>> > To that=20
>> > member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>> > that
>> > =
>> >
>> > Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>> > =
>> > about 55=20
>> > - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>> > is
>> > =
>> > cycling=20
>> > at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>> > was
>> > =
>> > full=20
>> > but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>> > evening.
>> > =
>> > Riding=20
>> > the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>> > the turn=20
>> > signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>> > lost total=20
>> > control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>> > Now
>> > =
>> > I found=20
>> > myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>> > hit
>> > =
>> > no one.=20
>> > In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&amp;#ing"><FONT =
>> > face=3DArial=20
>> > size=3D2>F*&amp;#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>> > =
>> > side doing the=20
>> > death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>> > =
>> > slid for=20
>> > about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>> > =
>> > badly=20
>> > injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>> > =
>> > that,=20
>> > that at least&nbsp;the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>> > =
>> > should=20
>> > behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>> > =
>> > true=20
>> > just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>> > Liberty
>> > =
>> > you do=20
>> > not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>> > shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>> > =
>> > and=20
>> > spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>

 

Oh, I see I don't reply to those that insult, etc., etc...
Thank for the info.

--HM

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:CbWdnbheSKdjdO7cRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame29.html
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:1JQcd.30934$4C.6138847@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Bill,
>> What is a troll?
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>> > Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>> > Path:
>> >
> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***
> .net!***.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cycl one.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-ou
> t.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!no t-for-mail
>> > From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>> > Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>> > Lines: 97
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
>> > X-Priority: 3
>> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>> > Message-ID: <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>
>> > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:22:04 GMT
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.193.47.104
>> > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
>> > X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1098037324 24.193.47.104 (Sun, 17 Oct 2004
>> > 14:22:04 EDT)
>> > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:04 EDT
>> > Organization: Road Runner - NYC
>> > Xref: east.***.net rec.autos.makers.jeep+******:530085
>> > X-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:00 EDT (news1.central.***.net)
>> >
>> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>> > couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>> > =
>> > that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>> > Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>> > =
>> > about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>> > =
>> > engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>> > said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>> > perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>> > wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>> > right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>> > of
>> > =
>> > it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>> > myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>> > hit
>> > =
>> > no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>> > slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>> > =
>> > for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>> > =
>> > and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>> > =
>> > event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>> > Either
>> > =
>> > way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>> > =
>> > This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>> > JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>> > with
>> > =
>> > head down in shame'
>> >
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> > P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>> > =
>> > with thumbs.
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>> > Content-Type: text/html;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> > <HTML><HEAD>
>> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> > <STYLE></STYLE>
>> > </HEAD>
>> > <BODY>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>> > "was" beautiful=20
>> > in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>> > crow.
>> > =
>> > To that=20
>> > member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>> > that
>> > =
>> >
>> > Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>> > =
>> > about 55=20
>> > - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>> > is
>> > =
>> > cycling=20
>> > at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>> > was
>> > =
>> > full=20
>> > but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>> > evening.
>> > =
>> > Riding=20
>> > the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>> > the turn=20
>> > signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>> > lost total=20
>> > control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>> > Now
>> > =
>> > I found=20
>> > myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>> > hit
>> > =
>> > no one.=20
>> > In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&amp;#ing"><FONT =
>> > face=3DArial=20
>> > size=3D2>F*&amp;#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>> > =
>> > side doing the=20
>> > death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>> > =
>> > slid for=20
>> > about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>> > =
>> > badly=20
>> > injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>> > =
>> > that,=20
>> > that at least&nbsp;the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>> > =
>> > should=20
>> > behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>> > =
>> > true=20
>> > just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>> > Liberty
>> > =
>> > you do=20
>> > not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>> > shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>> > =
>> > and=20
>> > spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>

 

Oh, I see I don't reply to those that insult, etc., etc...
Thank for the info.

--HM

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:CbWdnbheSKdjdO7cRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame29.html
>
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:1JQcd.30934$4C.6138847@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> Bill,
>> What is a troll?
>> --HM
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4172C17F.60054DC@***.net...
>> > Please don't post using Hyper Text Markup Language.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > From - Sun Oct 17 11:57:02 2004
>> > Path:
>> >
> news1.central.***.net!central.***.net!east.***.net !filt02.***.net!peer01.***
> .net!***.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cycl one.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-ou
> t.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!no t-for-mail
>> > From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
>> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>> > Subject: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>> > Lines: 97
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840"
>> > X-Priority: 3
>> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>> > Message-ID: <gLycd.81439$Ot3.53329@twister.nyc.rr.com>
>> > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:22:04 GMT
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.193.47.104
>> > X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
>> > X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1098037324 24.193.47.104 (Sun, 17 Oct 2004
>> > 14:22:04 EDT)
>> > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:04 EDT
>> > Organization: Road Runner - NYC
>> > Xref: east.***.net rec.autos.makers.jeep+******:530085
>> > X-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:22:00 EDT (news1.central.***.net)
>> >
>> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It "was" beautiful in and out. So I =
>> > couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating crow. To that member
>> > =
>> > that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting that =
>> > Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>> > =
>> > about 55 - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my
>> > =
>> > engine is cycling at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I =
>> > said the pattern was full but the traffic flow was great under a =
>> > perfectly clear moon lit evening. Riding the center lane I decided I =
>> > wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit the turn signal and merged =
>> > right in and as I was completing the lane change I lost total control
>> > of
>> > =
>> > it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse. Now I found =
>> > myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>> > hit
>> > =
>> > no one. In the end the mother F*&#ing was on its side doing the death =
>> > slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it slid
>> > =
>> > for about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist
>> > =
>> > and badly injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic
>> > =
>> > event like that, that at least the driver's air bag would deploy.
>> > Either
>> > =
>> > way no car should behave like this at these speeds and road conditions.
>> > =
>> > This I believe is true just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" =
>> > JEEPs! If you own a Liberty you do not own a true JEEP. 'walks away
>> > with
>> > =
>> > head down in shame'
>> >
>> >
>> > --HM
>> >
>> > P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors and spellings, it's hard to type
>> > =
>> > with thumbs.
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840
>> > Content-Type: text/html;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> > <HTML><HEAD>
>> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> > <STYLE></STYLE>
>> > </HEAD>
>> > <BODY>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, I lied. I kept that Liberty. It =
>> > "was" beautiful=20
>> > in and out. So I couldn't resist keeping it. Well here I am eating
>> > crow.
>> > =
>> > To that=20
>> > member that sent me that message coming down hard on me for getting
>> > that
>> > =
>> >
>> > Liberty, I apologize for my response. I was moving in a full patter at
>> > =
>> > about 55=20
>> > - 58 mph. I know this because I love to watch how many RPMs my engine
>> > is
>> > =
>> > cycling=20
>> > at certain speeds and road conditions.Anyway like I said the pattern
>> > was
>> > =
>> > full=20
>> > but the traffic flow was great under a perfectly clear moon lit
>> > evening.
>> > =
>> > Riding=20
>> > the center lane I decided I wanted an ever slower ride home. So I hit =
>> > the turn=20
>> > signal and merged right in and as I was completing the lane change I =
>> > lost total=20
>> > control of it. Every steering correction I tried only made it worse.
>> > Now
>> > =
>> > I found=20
>> > myself swaying all over the road trying to regain control. Luckily I
>> > hit
>> > =
>> > no one.=20
>> > In the end the mother </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:F@&amp;#ing"><FONT =
>> > face=3DArial=20
>> > size=3D2>F*&amp;#ing</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> was on its
>> > =
>> > side doing the=20
>> > death slide in the middle of a mad traffic and if I recall correctly it
>> > =
>> > slid for=20
>> > about 5 city blocks. bruised almost my entire body, broke one wrist and
>> > =
>> > badly=20
>> > injured the other. You would think that after a catastrophic event like
>> > =
>> > that,=20
>> > that at least&nbsp;the driver's air bag would deploy. Either way no car
>> > =
>> > should=20
>> > behave like this at these speeds and road conditions. This I believe is
>> > =
>> > true=20
>> > just as I believe that Libertys are "NOT!!!" JEEPs! If you own a
>> > Liberty
>> > =
>> > you do=20
>> > not own a true JEEP. <EM>'walks away with head down in =
>> > shame'</EM></FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--HM</FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. sorry bout any grammatical errors
>> > =
>> > and=20
>> > spellings, it's hard to type with thumbs.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C4B454.AAF39840--
>>
>>
>
>

 

I use after market speaker phone thingy, so cell was in its cradle. The
answer to you question is no I was not on a cell.

--HM

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:mYSdnfu7Nv7Od-7cRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> Who were you talking to on the cellphone when this happened?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>
>
>> I pretty sure 55mph was the speed limit there... But like I said I don't
>> know if it was something I did caused the flip and loss of control. It
>> did
>> feel like I over corrected just before it went on its side.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> news:cl0gdo$ul4$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> >
>> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3cPcd.173231$4h7.31317537@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> >> Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the
> there
>> > is
>> >> a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change.
>> >
>> > Aaah - now the facts are coming out!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

I use after market speaker phone thingy, so cell was in its cradle. The
answer to you question is no I was not on a cell.

--HM

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:mYSdnfu7Nv7Od-7cRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> Who were you talking to on the cellphone when this happened?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>
>
>> I pretty sure 55mph was the speed limit there... But like I said I don't
>> know if it was something I did caused the flip and loss of control. It
>> did
>> feel like I over corrected just before it went on its side.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> news:cl0gdo$ul4$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> >
>> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3cPcd.173231$4h7.31317537@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> >> Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the
> there
>> > is
>> >> a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change.
>> >
>> > Aaah - now the facts are coming out!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

I use after market speaker phone thingy, so cell was in its cradle. The
answer to you question is no I was not on a cell.

--HM

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:mYSdnfu7Nv7Od-7cRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> Who were you talking to on the cellphone when this happened?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: '02 JEEP Liberty Limited
>
>
>> I pretty sure 55mph was the speed limit there... But like I said I don't
>> know if it was something I did caused the flip and loss of control. It
>> did
>> feel like I over corrected just before it went on its side.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>> news:cl0gdo$ul4$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>> >
>> > "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3cPcd.173231$4h7.31317537@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> >> Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the
> there
>> > is
>> >> a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change.
>> >
>> > Aaah - now the facts are coming out!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

I realize there are those that can be biased one way or another... But what
happened to me was explained to me by the group that this very accident can
and would happen. I just think it's to much of a coincidence that many whom
I think do not even know each other accept through this newsgroup would
describe the type of crack up had so closely.

--HM





"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:KWRcd.27691$bk1.9726@fed1read05...
> What you don't understand is that this newsgroup has a bunch of Liberty
> haters and no matter what you ask about the Liberty, they would ONLY tell
> you how bad it is... simply because it doesn't fit in with their petty and
> narrow-minded views about what vehicles Jeep should be allowed do have in
> their lineup of vehicles for sale.
>
> If the Jeep Liberty were made by Dodge instead, those same people would
> have no complaints about it.
>
> Would I buy a Liberty as an offroad vehicle? No, but it sure makes for a
> good quality all around vehicle that does great in bad road conditions.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:7JPcd.173237$4h7.31322911@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> Thnx for the support. If there is a way to post the ins report on here I
>> will. I'm not looking to sue anyone. I'm here just saying that I asked
>> the group what the thought of me switching to a Liberty was and all
>> responces said they where not safe... And I didn't listen.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the insurance
>>> company says ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>>> news:cl0gdo$ul4$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>>>
>>>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3cPcd.173231$4h7.31317537@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>>>> > Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the
>>>> > there
>>>> is
>>>> > a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change.
>>>>
>>>> Aaah - now the facts are coming out!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

I realize there are those that can be biased one way or another... But what
happened to me was explained to me by the group that this very accident can
and would happen. I just think it's to much of a coincidence that many whom
I think do not even know each other accept through this newsgroup would
describe the type of crack up had so closely.

--HM





"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:KWRcd.27691$bk1.9726@fed1read05...
> What you don't understand is that this newsgroup has a bunch of Liberty
> haters and no matter what you ask about the Liberty, they would ONLY tell
> you how bad it is... simply because it doesn't fit in with their petty and
> narrow-minded views about what vehicles Jeep should be allowed do have in
> their lineup of vehicles for sale.
>
> If the Jeep Liberty were made by Dodge instead, those same people would
> have no complaints about it.
>
> Would I buy a Liberty as an offroad vehicle? No, but it sure makes for a
> good quality all around vehicle that does great in bad road conditions.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:7JPcd.173237$4h7.31322911@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> Thnx for the support. If there is a way to post the ins report on here I
>> will. I'm not looking to sue anyone. I'm here just saying that I asked
>> the group what the thought of me switching to a Liberty was and all
>> responces said they where not safe... And I didn't listen.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the insurance
>>> company says ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>>> news:cl0gdo$ul4$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>>>
>>>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3cPcd.173231$4h7.31317537@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>>>> > Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the
>>>> > there
>>>> is
>>>> > a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change.
>>>>
>>>> Aaah - now the facts are coming out!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

I realize there are those that can be biased one way or another... But what
happened to me was explained to me by the group that this very accident can
and would happen. I just think it's to much of a coincidence that many whom
I think do not even know each other accept through this newsgroup would
describe the type of crack up had so closely.

--HM





"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:KWRcd.27691$bk1.9726@fed1read05...
> What you don't understand is that this newsgroup has a bunch of Liberty
> haters and no matter what you ask about the Liberty, they would ONLY tell
> you how bad it is... simply because it doesn't fit in with their petty and
> narrow-minded views about what vehicles Jeep should be allowed do have in
> their lineup of vehicles for sale.
>
> If the Jeep Liberty were made by Dodge instead, those same people would
> have no complaints about it.
>
> Would I buy a Liberty as an offroad vehicle? No, but it sure makes for a
> good quality all around vehicle that does great in bad road conditions.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
> news:7JPcd.173237$4h7.31322911@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>> Thnx for the support. If there is a way to post the ins report on here I
>> will. I'm not looking to sue anyone. I'm here just saying that I asked
>> the group what the thought of me switching to a Liberty was and all
>> responces said they where not safe... And I didn't listen.
>>
>> --HM
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:5HPcd.10775$xb.8262@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> why dont you give the guy a break until he tells us what the insurance
>>> company says ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "AK" <me@false.email.con> wrote in message
>>> news:cl0gdo$ul4$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>>>
>>>> "TechCityPC.com" <news@techcitypc.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3cPcd.173231$4h7.31317537@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
>>>> > Thanks for the get well. No cause as of yet. Although some how the
>>>> > there
>>>> is
>>>> > a police report that says excessive speed and unsafe lane change.
>>>>
>>>> Aaah - now the facts are coming out!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>