YJ axle shims
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Re: YJ axle shims
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, think about it....
> >
> > > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> >
> > > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> > >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> >
> > > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> >
> > > Mike
> >
> > > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >
> > Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
> >
> > The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> > my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> > side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> > caster to increase (?).
> >
> > Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
> >
>
> Yes!
>
> That is what we both said....
>
> But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
> too.
>
> Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Oh, also figure on retorquing the u bolts a week after the job. They
'will' come loose unless you use an impact gun and really over torque
them the first shot, but even then it is worth a recheck.
I helped Norm Mitchell from this group do a spring lift and we torqued
everything properly. He didn't do a retorque and a few weeks later we
found him lost in the bush 25 miles from the nearest house with his
driveshaft laying on the ground because the springs came loose, the
center pin sheared, the springs all shifted and the axle shifted back.
He got lucky, he heard one of us, 'mad Jo' on her boosted all to crap CB
in the middle of a 10 Day RAMJ+W newsgroup run. She tagged him and the
other 7 of us ------ out on the trails trying to pick him up on our
regular CB's. One guy, Steve Seppala tagged him due east, so we all
headed that way while Jo sat on hill relaying the messages.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, think about it....
> >
> > > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> >
> > > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> > >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> >
> > > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> >
> > > Mike
> >
> > > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >
> > Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
> >
> > The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> > my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> > side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> > caster to increase (?).
> >
> > Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
> >
>
> Yes!
>
> That is what we both said....
>
> But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
> too.
>
> Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Oh, also figure on retorquing the u bolts a week after the job. They
'will' come loose unless you use an impact gun and really over torque
them the first shot, but even then it is worth a recheck.
I helped Norm Mitchell from this group do a spring lift and we torqued
everything properly. He didn't do a retorque and a few weeks later we
found him lost in the bush 25 miles from the nearest house with his
driveshaft laying on the ground because the springs came loose, the
center pin sheared, the springs all shifted and the axle shifted back.
He got lucky, he heard one of us, 'mad Jo' on her boosted all to crap CB
in the middle of a 10 Day RAMJ+W newsgroup run. She tagged him and the
other 7 of us ------ out on the trails trying to pick him up on our
regular CB's. One guy, Steve Seppala tagged him due east, so we all
headed that way while Jo sat on hill relaying the messages.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: YJ axle shims
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, think about it....
> >
> > > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> >
> > > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> > >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> >
> > > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> >
> > > Mike
> >
> > > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >
> > Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
> >
> > The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> > my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> > side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> > caster to increase (?).
> >
> > Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
> >
>
> Yes!
>
> That is what we both said....
>
> But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
> too.
>
> Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Oh, also figure on retorquing the u bolts a week after the job. They
'will' come loose unless you use an impact gun and really over torque
them the first shot, but even then it is worth a recheck.
I helped Norm Mitchell from this group do a spring lift and we torqued
everything properly. He didn't do a retorque and a few weeks later we
found him lost in the bush 25 miles from the nearest house with his
driveshaft laying on the ground because the springs came loose, the
center pin sheared, the springs all shifted and the axle shifted back.
He got lucky, he heard one of us, 'mad Jo' on her boosted all to crap CB
in the middle of a 10 Day RAMJ+W newsgroup run. She tagged him and the
other 7 of us ------ out on the trails trying to pick him up on our
regular CB's. One guy, Steve Seppala tagged him due east, so we all
headed that way while Jo sat on hill relaying the messages.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, think about it....
> >
> > > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> >
> > > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> > >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> >
> > > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> >
> > > Mike
> >
> > > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >
> > Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
> >
> > The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> > my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> > side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> > caster to increase (?).
> >
> > Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
> >
>
> Yes!
>
> That is what we both said....
>
> But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
> too.
>
> Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Oh, also figure on retorquing the u bolts a week after the job. They
'will' come loose unless you use an impact gun and really over torque
them the first shot, but even then it is worth a recheck.
I helped Norm Mitchell from this group do a spring lift and we torqued
everything properly. He didn't do a retorque and a few weeks later we
found him lost in the bush 25 miles from the nearest house with his
driveshaft laying on the ground because the springs came loose, the
center pin sheared, the springs all shifted and the axle shifted back.
He got lucky, he heard one of us, 'mad Jo' on her boosted all to crap CB
in the middle of a 10 Day RAMJ+W newsgroup run. She tagged him and the
other 7 of us ------ out on the trails trying to pick him up on our
regular CB's. One guy, Steve Seppala tagged him due east, so we all
headed that way while Jo sat on hill relaying the messages.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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