Front axle shims - 95YJ
07-06-2003, 03:03 AM
#1
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Front axle shims - 95YJ
Just putting a BDS lift on my 95YJ. 4 banger auto. When taking the front
apart, I found that there were shims on the front axle. Never seen that
before - the question is I don't know whether to keep them on there with the
new lift or what.
Anyone?
Thanks!
apart, I found that there were shims on the front axle. Never seen that
before - the question is I don't know whether to keep them on there with the
new lift or what.
Anyone?
Thanks!
07-06-2003, 11:26 AM
#2
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
These are caster shims. Caster is part of front end alignment and
contributes to ease and stability of steering. Adding a suspension lift
almost certainly changes your caster. I would keep the shims when
installing the lift, and then take the vehicle to a front end shop to have
the alignment checked. Then you might have to take them out or put
different ones in. Oh well...
Earle
"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Just putting a BDS lift on my 95YJ. 4 banger auto. When taking the front
> apart, I found that there were shims on the front axle. Never seen that
> before - the question is I don't know whether to keep them on there with
the
> new lift or what.
>
> Anyone?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
contributes to ease and stability of steering. Adding a suspension lift
almost certainly changes your caster. I would keep the shims when
installing the lift, and then take the vehicle to a front end shop to have
the alignment checked. Then you might have to take them out or put
different ones in. Oh well...
Earle
"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:SQPNa.29250$C83.2567115@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> Just putting a BDS lift on my 95YJ. 4 banger auto. When taking the front
> apart, I found that there were shims on the front axle. Never seen that
> before - the question is I don't know whether to keep them on there with
the
> new lift or what.
>
> Anyone?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
07-06-2003, 03:00 PM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned Monday/Tues.
THanks
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
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> These are caster shims. Caster is part of front end alignment and
> contributes to ease and stability of steering. Adding a suspension lift
> almost certainly changes your caster. I would keep the shims when
> installing the lift, and then take the vehicle to a front end shop to have
> the alignment checked. Then you might have to take them out or put
> different ones in. Oh well...
>
> Earle
>
> "Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:SQPNa.29250$C83.2567115@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > Just putting a BDS lift on my 95YJ. 4 banger auto. When taking the front
> > apart, I found that there were shims on the front axle. Never seen that
> > before - the question is I don't know whether to keep them on there with
> the
> > new lift or what.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>
>
THanks
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:be9epo$2jra3$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> These are caster shims. Caster is part of front end alignment and
> contributes to ease and stability of steering. Adding a suspension lift
> almost certainly changes your caster. I would keep the shims when
> installing the lift, and then take the vehicle to a front end shop to have
> the alignment checked. Then you might have to take them out or put
> different ones in. Oh well...
>
> Earle
>
> "Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:SQPNa.29250$C83.2567115@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > Just putting a BDS lift on my 95YJ. 4 banger auto. When taking the front
> > apart, I found that there were shims on the front axle. Never seen that
> > before - the question is I don't know whether to keep them on there with
> the
> > new lift or what.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>
>
07-06-2003, 04:00 PM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Desert YJ wrote:
>
> I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned Monday/Tues.
>
> THanks
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Desert YJ wrote:
>
> I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned Monday/Tues.
>
> THanks
07-08-2003, 02:34 AM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
trusting (most) shops.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Desert YJ wrote:
> >
> > I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
Monday/Tues.
> >
> > THanks
>
trusting (most) shops.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Desert YJ wrote:
> >
> > I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
Monday/Tues.
> >
> > THanks
>
07-08-2003, 09:53 AM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it back
in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which wedges
are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
Earle
"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
> trusting (most) shops.
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> > Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Desert YJ wrote:
> > >
> > > I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
> Monday/Tues.
> > >
> > > THanks
> >
>
>
in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which wedges
are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
Earle
"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
> trusting (most) shops.
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> > Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Desert YJ wrote:
> > >
> > > I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
> Monday/Tues.
> > >
> > > THanks
> >
>
>
07-08-2003, 12:47 PM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
Hadn't thought about that - doh.
I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
back
> in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
> have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
wedges
> are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
> though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
>
> Earle
>
> "Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
> > trusting (most) shops.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> > > Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Desert YJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
> > Monday/Tues.
> > > >
> > > > THanks
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
back
> in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
> have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
wedges
> are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
> though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
>
> Earle
>
> "Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
> > trusting (most) shops.
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> > > Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Desert YJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
> > Monday/Tues.
> > > >
> > > > THanks
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
07-08-2003, 12:56 PM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
You're supposed to use a torque wrench on them. People question my tiny
little Craftsman air compressor and lack of air tools, but there is
reason in my madness...
Earle
Desert YJ wrote:
> Hadn't thought about that - doh.
>
> I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
>
>>So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
>
> back
>
>>in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
>>have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
>
> wedges
>
>>are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
>>though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd. earthlink.net...
>>
>>>But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
>>>trusting (most) shops.
>>>
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
>>>
>>>> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Desert YJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
>>>
>>>Monday/Tues.
>>>
>>>>>THanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
little Craftsman air compressor and lack of air tools, but there is
reason in my madness...
Earle
Desert YJ wrote:
> Hadn't thought about that - doh.
>
> I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
>
>>So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
>
> back
>
>>in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
>>have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
>
> wedges
>
>>are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
>>though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd. earthlink.net...
>>
>>>But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
>>>trusting (most) shops.
>>>
>>>
>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
>>>
>>>> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>Desert YJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
>>>
>>>Monday/Tues.
>>>
>>>>>THanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
07-08-2003, 04:29 PM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
Earle, will you get yourself an impact wrench? ;-) You'll be able to
throw away that can of penetrating fluid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You're supposed to use a torque wrench on them. People question my tiny
> little Craftsman air compressor and lack of air tools, but there is
> reason in my madness...
>
> Earle
>
> Desert YJ wrote:
>
> > Hadn't thought about that - doh.
> >
> > I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> > news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> >>So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
> >
> > back
> >
> >>in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
> >>have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
> >
> > wedges
> >
> >>are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
> >>though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd. earthlink.net...
> >>
> >>>But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
> >>>trusting (most) shops.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> >>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Desert YJ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
> >>>
> >>>Monday/Tues.
> >>>
> >>>>>THanks
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
throw away that can of penetrating fluid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You're supposed to use a torque wrench on them. People question my tiny
> little Craftsman air compressor and lack of air tools, but there is
> reason in my madness...
>
> Earle
>
> Desert YJ wrote:
>
> > Hadn't thought about that - doh.
> >
> > I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> > news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> >>So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
> >
> > back
> >
> >>in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
> >>have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
> >
> > wedges
> >
> >>are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
> >>though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.itd. earthlink.net...
> >>
> >>>But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
> >>>trusting (most) shops.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
> >>>
> >>>> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
> >>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>Desert YJ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
> >>>
> >>>Monday/Tues.
> >>>
> >>>>>THanks
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
07-08-2003, 11:17 PM
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Re: Front axle shims - 95YJ
Real men do not need impact wrenches, or penetrating fluid, just muscle
and a torch. Did I mention my friend in Crozet, Virginia who once
removed a shock mount (the whole thing) with no other tools than a 44
magnum pistol?
Earle
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Earle, will you get yourself an impact wrench? ;-) You'll be able to
> throw away that can of penetrating fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>You're supposed to use a torque wrench on them. People question my tiny
>>little Craftsman air compressor and lack of air tools, but there is
>>reason in my madness...
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>Desert YJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hadn't thought about that - doh.
>>>
>>>I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
>>>news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
>>>
>>>
>>>>So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
>>>
>>>back
>>>
>>>
>>>>in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
>>>>have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
>>>
>>>wedges
>>>
>>>
>>>>are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
>>>>though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
>>>>
>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.it d.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
>>>>>trusting (most) shops.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Desert YJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
>>>>>
>>>>>Monday/Tues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>THanks
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
and a torch. Did I mention my friend in Crozet, Virginia who once
removed a shock mount (the whole thing) with no other tools than a 44
magnum pistol?
Earle
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Earle, will you get yourself an impact wrench? ;-) You'll be able to
> throw away that can of penetrating fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>You're supposed to use a torque wrench on them. People question my tiny
>>little Craftsman air compressor and lack of air tools, but there is
>>reason in my madness...
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>Desert YJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hadn't thought about that - doh.
>>>
>>>I air gun my U-bolts to 65 lbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
>>>news:beei38$493nf$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
>>>
>>>
>>>>So you're going to take it home, install the wedges, and then bring it
>>>
>>>back
>>>
>>>
>>>>in to get the alignment double checked again? It is highly recommended to
>>>>have the final configuration verified, rather than calculating which
>>>
>>>wedges
>>>
>>>
>>>>are needed and slapping them in. You do have a point about most shops
>>>>though. Imagine the torque their air tools will put on your U-bolts...
>>>>
>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>"Desert YJ" <jeepaholics@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:cCtOa.33417$C83.2835009@newsread1.prod.it d.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>But they'd charge me for that. And I'm a cheapskate, in addition to not
>>>>>trusting (most) shops.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3F087F71.D58A4362@***.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Take the wedges to the shop with you so they may put them back in.
>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Desert YJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I left em out and will see whta happens when I get it aligned
>>>>>
>>>>>Monday/Tues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>THanks
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>