YJ axle shims
#11
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Re: YJ axle shims
Think of it this way.... If your pinion is angled up and you were to turn
your axle to rotate it back down, where would that leave the biggest gap?
For the front, put the fat side to the front of the Jeep. On the back, put
the fat side to the back of the Jeep.
Now if it has an SOA it would be opposite.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-433B4B.14131205112003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
>
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
>
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your axle to rotate it back down, where would that leave the biggest gap?
For the front, put the fat side to the front of the Jeep. On the back, put
the fat side to the back of the Jeep.
Now if it has an SOA it would be opposite.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-433B4B.14131205112003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
>
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
>
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#12
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Re: YJ axle shims
Think of it this way.... If your pinion is angled up and you were to turn
your axle to rotate it back down, where would that leave the biggest gap?
For the front, put the fat side to the front of the Jeep. On the back, put
the fat side to the back of the Jeep.
Now if it has an SOA it would be opposite.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-433B4B.14131205112003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
>
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
>
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your axle to rotate it back down, where would that leave the biggest gap?
For the front, put the fat side to the front of the Jeep. On the back, put
the fat side to the back of the Jeep.
Now if it has an SOA it would be opposite.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-433B4B.14131205112003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
>
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
>
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#13
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Re: YJ axle shims
Think of it this way.... If your pinion is angled up and you were to turn
your axle to rotate it back down, where would that leave the biggest gap?
For the front, put the fat side to the front of the Jeep. On the back, put
the fat side to the back of the Jeep.
Now if it has an SOA it would be opposite.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-433B4B.14131205112003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
>
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
>
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your axle to rotate it back down, where would that leave the biggest gap?
For the front, put the fat side to the front of the Jeep. On the back, put
the fat side to the back of the Jeep.
Now if it has an SOA it would be opposite.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-433B4B.14131205112003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
>
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
>
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#14
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Re: YJ axle shims
Yes, but, with your lift, you may not be able to get the full three
degrees without throwing pinion angle too far down to safely use the
U-Joint.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepers wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
degrees without throwing pinion angle too far down to safely use the
U-Joint.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepers wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
#15
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Re: YJ axle shims
Yes, but, with your lift, you may not be able to get the full three
degrees without throwing pinion angle too far down to safely use the
U-Joint.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepers wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
degrees without throwing pinion angle too far down to safely use the
U-Joint.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepers wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: YJ axle shims
Yes, but, with your lift, you may not be able to get the full three
degrees without throwing pinion angle too far down to safely use the
U-Joint.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepers wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
degrees without throwing pinion angle too far down to safely use the
U-Joint.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepers wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
#17
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Re: YJ axle shims
Jeepers wrote:
>
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
Yes!
That is what we both said....
But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
too.
Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
Yes!
That is what we both said....
But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
too.
Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#18
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Re: YJ axle shims
Jeepers wrote:
>
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
Yes!
That is what we both said....
But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
too.
Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
Yes!
That is what we both said....
But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
too.
Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#19
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Re: YJ axle shims
Jeepers wrote:
>
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
Yes!
That is what we both said....
But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
too.
Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> > LOL, think about it....
>
> > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
>
> > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
>
> > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
>
> > Mike
>
> > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
>
> The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> caster to increase (?).
>
> Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
>
Yes!
That is what we both said....
But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
too.
Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#20
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Re: YJ axle shims
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, think about it....
> >
> > > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> >
> > > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> > >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> >
> > > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> >
> > > Mike
> >
> > > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >
> > Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
> >
> > The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> > my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> > side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> > caster to increase (?).
> >
> > Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
> >
>
> Yes!
>
> That is what we both said....
>
> But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
> too.
>
> Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Oh, also figure on retorquing the u bolts a week after the job. They
'will' come loose unless you use an impact gun and really over torque
them the first shot, but even then it is worth a recheck.
I helped Norm Mitchell from this group do a spring lift and we torqued
everything properly. He didn't do a retorque and a few weeks later we
found him lost in the bush 25 miles from the nearest house with his
driveshaft laying on the ground because the springs came loose, the
center pin sheared, the springs all shifted and the axle shifted back.
He got lucky, he heard one of us, 'mad Jo' on her boosted all to crap CB
in the middle of a 10 Day RAMJ+W newsgroup run. She tagged him and the
other 7 of us ------ out on the trails trying to pick him up on our
regular CB's. One guy, Steve Seppala tagged him due east, so we all
headed that way while Jo sat on hill relaying the messages.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepers wrote:
> >
> > > LOL, think about it....
> >
> > > The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> > > to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> >
> > > The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
> > >driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> >
> > > The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> >
> > > Mike
> >
> > > Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> > > ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> > > http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >
> > Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
> >
> > The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
> > my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
> > side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
> > caster to increase (?).
> >
> > Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
> >
>
> Yes!
>
> That is what we both said....
>
> But it goes in the rear of the rear to get the rear pinion back to specs
> too.
>
> Otherwise you will eat rear driveshaft u-joints 'fast'.
Oh, also figure on retorquing the u bolts a week after the job. They
'will' come loose unless you use an impact gun and really over torque
them the first shot, but even then it is worth a recheck.
I helped Norm Mitchell from this group do a spring lift and we torqued
everything properly. He didn't do a retorque and a few weeks later we
found him lost in the bush 25 miles from the nearest house with his
driveshaft laying on the ground because the springs came loose, the
center pin sheared, the springs all shifted and the axle shifted back.
He got lucky, he heard one of us, 'mad Jo' on her boosted all to crap CB
in the middle of a 10 Day RAMJ+W newsgroup run. She tagged him and the
other 7 of us ------ out on the trails trying to pick him up on our
regular CB's. One guy, Steve Seppala tagged him due east, so we all
headed that way while Jo sat on hill relaying the messages.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's