Winches
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Re: Winches
Dave: Do I understand you right to mean that your no longer a kid. 8>)
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> I liked Smokey and the Bandit - one of my favourite films when I was a
kid.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:408D8E46.CB101A7E@***.net...
> > Her too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Or even Sally Field :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> I liked Smokey and the Bandit - one of my favourite films when I was a
kid.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:408D8E46.CB101A7E@***.net...
> > Her too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Or even Sally Field :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
#432
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Re: Winches
Dave: Do I understand you right to mean that your no longer a kid. 8>)
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:7pgjc.2884$2r3.21371099@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I liked Smokey and the Bandit - one of my favourite films when I was a
kid.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:408D8E46.CB101A7E@***.net...
> > Her too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Or even Sally Field :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:7pgjc.2884$2r3.21371099@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I liked Smokey and the Bandit - one of my favourite films when I was a
kid.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:408D8E46.CB101A7E@***.net...
> > Her too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Or even Sally Field :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
#433
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Re: Winches
Dave: Do I understand you right to mean that your no longer a kid. 8>)
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:7pgjc.2884$2r3.21371099@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I liked Smokey and the Bandit - one of my favourite films when I was a
kid.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:408D8E46.CB101A7E@***.net...
> > Her too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Or even Sally Field :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:7pgjc.2884$2r3.21371099@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I liked Smokey and the Bandit - one of my favourite films when I was a
kid.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:408D8E46.CB101A7E@***.net...
> > Her too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Or even Sally Field :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
#434
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Re: Winches
Mike: you are making me fess up now I to carry one. My head Hangs low.
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#435
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
Mike: you are making me fess up now I to carry one. My head Hangs low.
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#436
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
Mike: you are making me fess up now I to carry one. My head Hangs low.
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#437
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
Mike: you are making me fess up now I to carry one. My head Hangs low.
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
8>)--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:408D1A05.6B0F6F95@sympatico.ca...
> I carry the ultimate solution...
>
> When the engine dies and the battery breaks or my Warn XD9000i smokes
> out, the trusty 'come-A-long' comes out from behind the seat and out I
> go....
>
> (that is a hand cable winch, eh)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So with the pluses and minuses for either type....why y'all bitchin
about
> > people bitchin about it?!
> > Isn't it fair to say that everyone does different types of wheeling in
> > different types of location?!
> > And where they get stuck will be different.....There's no winch to end
all
> > winches....no one winch will get you out of all spots....
> >
> > So settle with that. I think that your average joe might be able to
deal
> > with troubleshooting an electric winch easier than hydraulics. (ie.
hey,
> > there's voltage at the terminals and the solenoid is clicking when I hit
the
> > button....winch must be pooched... OR; hey, where's all this damn fluid
> > coming from....crap, I have no way of fixing the leak and replenishing
the
> > fluid....)
> >
> > In either case you're still stuck.....
> >
> > Know what I mean Gene??
> >
> > "JIM LAIRD" <CJ & XJ Jimmie@Jeepnet.net> wrote in message
> > news:_7Yic.49$sF3.26102@news.uswest.net...
> > > Not to start a flame war or anything,but how often has your engine
been
> > dead
> > > and you had to save a bus lode of nuns from the raging rapids of the
> > largest
> > > river known to man.
> > > All things being equal which one would you really want to own the one
that
> > > will pull the whole bus lode of nuns up a 80' embankment at 90% and
save
> > all
> > > there lives, or try to pull them 30' have the electric go up in smoke
and
> > > they are all left there dangling for there lives until some one with a
> > > hydraulic winch comes to the rescue and saves all of them.
> > > Lets get real I've sat here time and time again and heard all the
horror
> > > stories about those sad and sorry people who have regretted buying a
> > > hydraulic winch and I just don't get it . It is just quite simply
crap.
> > You
> > > guys that make these claims just don't get it.
> > > If your engine is dead in the water so darn deep that it will kill
your
> > > engine than I'd like to see you power swim up the fricking river and
jump
> > > out hook up your golden winch and power swim back to your jeep if it's
> > still
> > > there and winch your shocked as e's out of the river.
> > > And now I have to ask. DO you really think you can swim the English
> > channel
> > > as well. Lets' get real when you ad up all the pluses and minuses of
> > each
> > > one they all have there game. Some better then the others. I have seen
> > them
> > > all work and now I own a Mile Marker Hydraulic for over four years now
I
> > > have had to finish pulling people out of spots that the Electric winch
> > > couldn't do the job. And now your trying to say just how shi ty the
> > > hydraulic winch is and I'm ROTFLMAO. I wouldn't try and tell you how
bad
> > a
> > > set of Boggers are in a mud hole with out having owned a set so don't
try
> > > and tell people how bad a hydraulic winch is when you've never owned
one.
> > > Grow up and start Jeeping in the real world and stop talking internet
> > crap.
> > > --
> > > CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c6h9tr02jrf@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > Of course, when the "Real Jeep's" engine is dead, it is also
> > > irretrieveably
> > > > stuck, because (like the hydraulic-type) a PTO can't operate with
> > anything
> > > > but engine power. So, if you've found yourself stranded in the
middle of
> > > the
> > > > river with a dead engine, might as well just get yourself to shore,
> > forget
> > > > the Jeep and hoof it back to town....whatever's left of it'll be
there
> > > after
> > > > the spring runoff is done. With an electric winch you can ... oh,
never
> > > > mind...
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:408C0A25.7CEAEBCE@***.net...
> > > > > Real Jeeps use Power Take Off gear driven winches, they don't
> > over
> > > > > heat and die before the job is done. The Wannabees may still use
the
> > > > > next best thing in hydraulic powered:
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Muuurgh wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who makes a good winch for a good price? Are the stock winches
by
> > > Mopar
> > > > any
> > > > > > good? Can I do better?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Muuurgh
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#438
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
SB wrote:
> why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> winching debate!).
>
> We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
> we just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
> loop on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope
> in.
>
> I'll see if I can find the info on it....
>
Lug All. Very nice.
http://www.lug-all.com/
--
"Honesty does not require posturing. In fact, the two things are
incompatible. Nor does objectivity require neutrality."
--Thomas Sowell
> why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> winching debate!).
>
> We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
> we just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
> loop on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope
> in.
>
> I'll see if I can find the info on it....
>
Lug All. Very nice.
http://www.lug-all.com/
--
"Honesty does not require posturing. In fact, the two things are
incompatible. Nor does objectivity require neutrality."
--Thomas Sowell
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Re: Winches
SB wrote:
> why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> winching debate!).
>
> We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
> we just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
> loop on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope
> in.
>
> I'll see if I can find the info on it....
>
Lug All. Very nice.
http://www.lug-all.com/
--
"Honesty does not require posturing. In fact, the two things are
incompatible. Nor does objectivity require neutrality."
--Thomas Sowell
> why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> winching debate!).
>
> We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
> we just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
> loop on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope
> in.
>
> I'll see if I can find the info on it....
>
Lug All. Very nice.
http://www.lug-all.com/
--
"Honesty does not require posturing. In fact, the two things are
incompatible. Nor does objectivity require neutrality."
--Thomas Sowell
#440
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winches
SB wrote:
> why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> winching debate!).
>
> We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
> we just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
> loop on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope
> in.
>
> I'll see if I can find the info on it....
>
Lug All. Very nice.
http://www.lug-all.com/
--
"Honesty does not require posturing. In fact, the two things are
incompatible. Nor does objectivity require neutrality."
--Thomas Sowell
> why is one any better than the other?! (not trying to start another
> winching debate!).
>
> We picked up a Tirfor at work (do a google on that).
> Can't remember how much they said it'd lift/pull (different models). but
> we just insert the raw end of the cable and the other end has the little
> loop on it, then just hammer back on a lever and it pulls the steel rope
> in.
>
> I'll see if I can find the info on it....
>
Lug All. Very nice.
http://www.lug-all.com/
--
"Honesty does not require posturing. In fact, the two things are
incompatible. Nor does objectivity require neutrality."
--Thomas Sowell