Willys/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
#81
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Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
>
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
#82
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
>
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
#83
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
>
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
#84
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
>
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
#85
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
>
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
> 'I' have no qualifications and 'I' think saying you can use Coleman or
> pump gas in a Jet engine in a pinch is BS.
It will start and run. Whether it will vapor lock or freeze and flame
out on climbout or overtemp when you go to takeoff power,is another
question. But if I was on the ramp in an overrun third world shithole
and it was fly out or get taken prisoner, I'd do it. It would, with
some sense, get me home.
>
> Something like saying you can add a gallon or two of gas to a tank of
> diesel to get you to a gas station. Very dangerous advice.
Gas is a bad diesel extender. K-1 isn't so bad. Some veg oils are
probably OK, but don't ask me which ones.
>
> Ah Yup, maybe some 'can' do that, but to say that in a world wide forum
> is wrong in my mind.
>
> Hey, I could be wrong, it sure wouldn't be the first time, but.....
>
> I see too much of 'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em
> with BS' in that post.
>
> And do you know what? Jeeps don't even use diesel engines!
>
A serious congenital defect, but we're trying to fix that.
#86
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Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40E260CB.58C303E2@***.net>...
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
#87
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Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40E260CB.58C303E2@***.net>...
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
#88
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Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40E260CB.58C303E2@***.net>...
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
#89
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Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40E260CB.58C303E2@***.net>...
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
> I think you're believing an old wives tale, gasoline, alcohol and
> Kerosene are so total different, it's just not possible. This is not
> like you ran out of gas and put a bottle of your favorite booze in to
> get home, also a figment of someone imagination, although that's not
> going to kill anyone. Of course you're welcome to document it. The ARMY
> does have multi fuel tanks.
Yes, the M1 Abrams. It's multifuel, like all turbines.
#90
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Re: ******/Ford Engine Swap? Possible?
You're full of sh*t! Fortunately you can't find another idiot one
the internet that stupid! I invite you to practice some of that
experimenting on your vehicles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> The Navy did, in fact, run its early jets-Banshees and Panthers-on
> 115/145 Avgas. The worst possible jet fuel, and one that would destroy
> the hot section on a modern engine quickly-but it was also the fuel
> used by the J-47s-in modified B-47 pods-used on B-36s. The burner cans
> and T wheels would foul and they would clean them by injections of
> pulverized walnut hulls. Lesser grades of Avgas worked ok provided the
> engine was _trimmed_ to use the fuel, and a little oil was added , or
> in the case of the B-36 a modified fuel controller was used.
>
> Leaded gasoline is not under any circumstances permitted for
> continuous use in any modern gas turbine. _Unleaded_ gasoline is an OK
> alternate fuel on some engines, but again it neeeds oil and must be
> trimmed for the fuel used. Read The Fantastic Manual!
>
> The T-2 Buckeye actually has a small lever on the throttle quadrant
> for "AVGAS" or "JET FUEL". The fuel controller has a switchable valve
> and the engine is trimmmed for each fuel.
>
> On the new FADEC engines, I don't know what the procedure is. On
> mechanical engines, use of any fuel for which the engine is not
> trimmed is automatically an "emergency" rather than "alternate" fuel.
>
> The main objection to flying #1 Diesel with an antifreeze (Prist)
> today is its higher sulfur and vanadium content. A number of the
> warjet guys are flying on it anyway and with ULSD introduction it will
> probably be STC'd for a lot of the turboprop and helo fleet,enabling
> owners to truck their own fuel and leveraging Jet A retail costs down.
>
> For the record: I am not now nor have I ever advocated operating any
> aircraft on any fuel not approved both by the engine manufacturer AND,
> on ATC'd aircraft, the Type Certificate Data Sheet (or an approved
> STC). Since oIIIIIIIIo has never seen a TCDS or an engine Type
> Certificate, he will doubtless post more --------, but that's the
> straight poop.
the internet that stupid! I invite you to practice some of that
experimenting on your vehicles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> The Navy did, in fact, run its early jets-Banshees and Panthers-on
> 115/145 Avgas. The worst possible jet fuel, and one that would destroy
> the hot section on a modern engine quickly-but it was also the fuel
> used by the J-47s-in modified B-47 pods-used on B-36s. The burner cans
> and T wheels would foul and they would clean them by injections of
> pulverized walnut hulls. Lesser grades of Avgas worked ok provided the
> engine was _trimmed_ to use the fuel, and a little oil was added , or
> in the case of the B-36 a modified fuel controller was used.
>
> Leaded gasoline is not under any circumstances permitted for
> continuous use in any modern gas turbine. _Unleaded_ gasoline is an OK
> alternate fuel on some engines, but again it neeeds oil and must be
> trimmed for the fuel used. Read The Fantastic Manual!
>
> The T-2 Buckeye actually has a small lever on the throttle quadrant
> for "AVGAS" or "JET FUEL". The fuel controller has a switchable valve
> and the engine is trimmmed for each fuel.
>
> On the new FADEC engines, I don't know what the procedure is. On
> mechanical engines, use of any fuel for which the engine is not
> trimmed is automatically an "emergency" rather than "alternate" fuel.
>
> The main objection to flying #1 Diesel with an antifreeze (Prist)
> today is its higher sulfur and vanadium content. A number of the
> warjet guys are flying on it anyway and with ULSD introduction it will
> probably be STC'd for a lot of the turboprop and helo fleet,enabling
> owners to truck their own fuel and leveraging Jet A retail costs down.
>
> For the record: I am not now nor have I ever advocated operating any
> aircraft on any fuel not approved both by the engine manufacturer AND,
> on ATC'd aircraft, the Type Certificate Data Sheet (or an approved
> STC). Since oIIIIIIIIo has never seen a TCDS or an engine Type
> Certificate, he will doubtless post more --------, but that's the
> straight poop.