What tire to buy
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Re: What tire to buy
I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> mud season for $85 each.
>
> Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
>
> After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> snow and mud then my AT's were.
> I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> year in and year out.
>
> You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> plowing it in the winter. ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
>
> 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
>
>
>
> John Welch wrote:
> > 99 Wrangler.
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > better compromise.
> > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> > John Welch
> >
> >>/<
> >
between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> mud season for $85 each.
>
> Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
>
> After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> snow and mud then my AT's were.
> I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> year in and year out.
>
> You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> plowing it in the winter. ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
>
> 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
>
>
>
> John Welch wrote:
> > 99 Wrangler.
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > better compromise.
> > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> > John Welch
> >
> >>/<
> >
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Re: What tire to buy
Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are a
bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the market
that I dont know much about yet.
KH
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are a
bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the market
that I dont know much about yet.
KH
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
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Re: What tire to buy
Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are a
bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the market
that I dont know much about yet.
KH
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are a
bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the market
that I dont know much about yet.
KH
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
Guest
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Re: What tire to buy
Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are a
bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the market
that I dont know much about yet.
KH
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are a
bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the market
that I dont know much about yet.
KH
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
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Re: What tire to buy
Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs I
got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
per tire than trusty BFG muds.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
per tire than trusty BFG muds.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
Guest
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Re: What tire to buy
Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs I
got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
per tire than trusty BFG muds.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
per tire than trusty BFG muds.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What tire to buy
Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs I
got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
per tire than trusty BFG muds.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
per tire than trusty BFG muds.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
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Re: What tire to buy
Gerald, I was slicing my BFG MTs up like crazy out in the California
deserts. And I used to be a strong proponent of BFG's MT. STRONG supporter.
Since switching to the MT/R with its far stronger sidewall, that kind of
stuff stopped. The MT/R is a FAR stronger tire than my BFG MTs ever were.
Is that worth more money to you? It was to me when I made the switch! :)
Jerry
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"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnphl53k066n1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs
I
> got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
> per tire than trusty BFG muds.
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> > Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the
thornbird
> > TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's
are
> a
> > bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
> market
> > that I dont know much about yet.
> > KH
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard
rubber
> > > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> > boards.
> > > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the
middle
> of
> > > > mud season for $85 each.
> > > >
> > > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
> and
> > > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg
to
> a
> > > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little
too
> > > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me
to
> > > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They
said
> > > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
> sand.
> > > >
> > > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
> back.
> > > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
> got
> > > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now
and
> > > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in
the
> > > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
> spring.
> > > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > > year in and year out.
> > > >
> > > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
> this
> > > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
> problem
> > > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Perry
> > > >
> > > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on
modern
> > > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I
will
> > > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
> in
> > > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland
(I
> > > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
> rocks.
> > > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be
a
> > > > > better compromise.
> > > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > John Welch
> > > > >
> > > > >>/<
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
deserts. And I used to be a strong proponent of BFG's MT. STRONG supporter.
Since switching to the MT/R with its far stronger sidewall, that kind of
stuff stopped. The MT/R is a FAR stronger tire than my BFG MTs ever were.
Is that worth more money to you? It was to me when I made the switch! :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnphl53k066n1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs
I
> got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
> per tire than trusty BFG muds.
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> > Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the
thornbird
> > TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's
are
> a
> > bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
> market
> > that I dont know much about yet.
> > KH
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard
rubber
> > > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> > boards.
> > > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the
middle
> of
> > > > mud season for $85 each.
> > > >
> > > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
> and
> > > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg
to
> a
> > > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little
too
> > > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me
to
> > > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They
said
> > > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
> sand.
> > > >
> > > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
> back.
> > > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
> got
> > > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now
and
> > > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in
the
> > > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
> spring.
> > > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > > year in and year out.
> > > >
> > > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
> this
> > > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
> problem
> > > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Perry
> > > >
> > > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on
modern
> > > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I
will
> > > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
> in
> > > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland
(I
> > > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
> rocks.
> > > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be
a
> > > > > better compromise.
> > > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > John Welch
> > > > >
> > > > >>/<
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What tire to buy
Gerald, I was slicing my BFG MTs up like crazy out in the California
deserts. And I used to be a strong proponent of BFG's MT. STRONG supporter.
Since switching to the MT/R with its far stronger sidewall, that kind of
stuff stopped. The MT/R is a FAR stronger tire than my BFG MTs ever were.
Is that worth more money to you? It was to me when I made the switch! :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnphl53k066n1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs
I
> got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
> per tire than trusty BFG muds.
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> > Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the
thornbird
> > TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's
are
> a
> > bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
> market
> > that I dont know much about yet.
> > KH
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard
rubber
> > > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> > boards.
> > > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the
middle
> of
> > > > mud season for $85 each.
> > > >
> > > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
> and
> > > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg
to
> a
> > > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little
too
> > > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me
to
> > > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They
said
> > > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
> sand.
> > > >
> > > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
> back.
> > > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
> got
> > > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now
and
> > > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in
the
> > > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
> spring.
> > > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > > year in and year out.
> > > >
> > > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
> this
> > > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
> problem
> > > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Perry
> > > >
> > > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on
modern
> > > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I
will
> > > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
> in
> > > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland
(I
> > > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
> rocks.
> > > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be
a
> > > > > better compromise.
> > > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > John Welch
> > > > >
> > > > >>/<
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
deserts. And I used to be a strong proponent of BFG's MT. STRONG supporter.
Since switching to the MT/R with its far stronger sidewall, that kind of
stuff stopped. The MT/R is a FAR stronger tire than my BFG MTs ever were.
Is that worth more money to you? It was to me when I made the switch! :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnphl53k066n1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs
I
> got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
> per tire than trusty BFG muds.
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> > Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the
thornbird
> > TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's
are
> a
> > bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
> market
> > that I dont know much about yet.
> > KH
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard
rubber
> > > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> > boards.
> > > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the
middle
> of
> > > > mud season for $85 each.
> > > >
> > > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
> and
> > > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg
to
> a
> > > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little
too
> > > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me
to
> > > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They
said
> > > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
> sand.
> > > >
> > > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
> back.
> > > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
> got
> > > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now
and
> > > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in
the
> > > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
> spring.
> > > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > > year in and year out.
> > > >
> > > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
> this
> > > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
> problem
> > > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Perry
> > > >
> > > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on
modern
> > > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I
will
> > > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
> in
> > > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland
(I
> > > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
> rocks.
> > > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be
a
> > > > > better compromise.
> > > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > John Welch
> > > > >
> > > > >>/<
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What tire to buy
Gerald, I was slicing my BFG MTs up like crazy out in the California
deserts. And I used to be a strong proponent of BFG's MT. STRONG supporter.
Since switching to the MT/R with its far stronger sidewall, that kind of
stuff stopped. The MT/R is a FAR stronger tire than my BFG MTs ever were.
Is that worth more money to you? It was to me when I made the switch! :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnphl53k066n1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs
I
> got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
> per tire than trusty BFG muds.
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> > Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the
thornbird
> > TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's
are
> a
> > bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
> market
> > that I dont know much about yet.
> > KH
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard
rubber
> > > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> > boards.
> > > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the
middle
> of
> > > > mud season for $85 each.
> > > >
> > > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
> and
> > > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg
to
> a
> > > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little
too
> > > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me
to
> > > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They
said
> > > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
> sand.
> > > >
> > > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
> back.
> > > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
> got
> > > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now
and
> > > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in
the
> > > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
> spring.
> > > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > > year in and year out.
> > > >
> > > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
> this
> > > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
> problem
> > > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Perry
> > > >
> > > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on
modern
> > > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I
will
> > > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
> in
> > > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland
(I
> > > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
> rocks.
> > > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be
a
> > > > > better compromise.
> > > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > John Welch
> > > > >
> > > > >>/<
> > > > >
> >
> >
>
>
deserts. And I used to be a strong proponent of BFG's MT. STRONG supporter.
Since switching to the MT/R with its far stronger sidewall, that kind of
stuff stopped. The MT/R is a FAR stronger tire than my BFG MTs ever were.
Is that worth more money to you? It was to me when I made the switch! :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnphl53k066n1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Not sure the Thornbirds are junk, but after pricing out a set of 35" MTRs
I
> got another set of BFG M/Ts, I couldn't image the MTRs were worth $80 more
> per tire than trusty BFG muds.
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> > Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the
thornbird
> > TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's
are
> a
> > bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
> market
> > that I dont know much about yet.
> > KH
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> > news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard
rubber
> > > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> > boards.
> > > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the
middle
> of
> > > > mud season for $85 each.
> > > >
> > > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
> and
> > > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg
to
> a
> > > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little
too
> > > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me
to
> > > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They
said
> > > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
> sand.
> > > >
> > > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
> back.
> > > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
> got
> > > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now
and
> > > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in
the
> > > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
> spring.
> > > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > > year in and year out.
> > > >
> > > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
> this
> > > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
> problem
> > > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Perry
> > > >
> > > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on
modern
> > > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I
will
> > > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
> in
> > > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland
(I
> > > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
> rocks.
> > > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be
a
> > > > > better compromise.
> > > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > John Welch
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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