Thanks Dean,

That's part of the "why" I post such experiences. If you do a search for
my name and Jeep you'll probably learn enough to write a book. Hey, what an
idea. :-)

The other part is to get stomach knots, sinking feelings, and otherwise a
hard education from Mike, Bill, Chris, and others :-).

"Learning the Hard Way"

Bill


"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:bbhfc0drh1g56oefnfuhbeutljuqecvg3j@4ax.com...
> Well, as bad as this might for Bill, I for one am really glad he posted.
I'll
> show my ignorance by saying I've never heard of the dreaded double gasket
> before. I can't even begin to guess at how many times I've changed my own
oil.
> And in all those oil changes I've never once checked to make sure the old
gasket
> was not on the old oil filter where it belonged. I guess I'm just lucky.
>
> Thanks Bill, I'm checking my oil filters from here on out. Any fool can
learn
> from his own mistakes, it takes someone of considerably more intelligence
to
> learn from the mistakes of others.
>
> Dean
> who is trying and mostly failing at being more intelligent <:-| <g>
>
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:15:46 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > We may safely say it won't happen again to you.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >William Oliveri wrote:
> >>
> >> Well it might be different if I had 190,000 miles on it. Then I could
> >> stomach it. This engine has less than 500 miles. That would be a
serious
> >> blow at this point in time. I've changed my oil on this jeep and my
other
> >> cars many-a-time. Why this time with the double rubber gasket I don't
know.
> >>
> >> Bill
>

 

Thanks Dean,

That's part of the "why" I post such experiences. If you do a search for
my name and Jeep you'll probably learn enough to write a book. Hey, what an
idea. :-)

The other part is to get stomach knots, sinking feelings, and otherwise a
hard education from Mike, Bill, Chris, and others :-).

"Learning the Hard Way"

Bill


"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:bbhfc0drh1g56oefnfuhbeutljuqecvg3j@4ax.com...
> Well, as bad as this might for Bill, I for one am really glad he posted.
I'll
> show my ignorance by saying I've never heard of the dreaded double gasket
> before. I can't even begin to guess at how many times I've changed my own
oil.
> And in all those oil changes I've never once checked to make sure the old
gasket
> was not on the old oil filter where it belonged. I guess I'm just lucky.
>
> Thanks Bill, I'm checking my oil filters from here on out. Any fool can
learn
> from his own mistakes, it takes someone of considerably more intelligence
to
> learn from the mistakes of others.
>
> Dean
> who is trying and mostly failing at being more intelligent <:-| <g>
>
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:15:46 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > We may safely say it won't happen again to you.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >William Oliveri wrote:
> >>
> >> Well it might be different if I had 190,000 miles on it. Then I could
> >> stomach it. This engine has less than 500 miles. That would be a
serious
> >> blow at this point in time. I've changed my oil on this jeep and my
other
> >> cars many-a-time. Why this time with the double rubber gasket I don't
know.
> >>
> >> Bill
>

 

Thanks Dean,

That's part of the "why" I post such experiences. If you do a search for
my name and Jeep you'll probably learn enough to write a book. Hey, what an
idea. :-)

The other part is to get stomach knots, sinking feelings, and otherwise a
hard education from Mike, Bill, Chris, and others :-).

"Learning the Hard Way"

Bill


"Dean" <do.not.email.me@post.it.to.the.group.com> wrote in message
news:bbhfc0drh1g56oefnfuhbeutljuqecvg3j@4ax.com...
> Well, as bad as this might for Bill, I for one am really glad he posted.
I'll
> show my ignorance by saying I've never heard of the dreaded double gasket
> before. I can't even begin to guess at how many times I've changed my own
oil.
> And in all those oil changes I've never once checked to make sure the old
gasket
> was not on the old oil filter where it belonged. I guess I'm just lucky.
>
> Thanks Bill, I'm checking my oil filters from here on out. Any fool can
learn
> from his own mistakes, it takes someone of considerably more intelligence
to
> learn from the mistakes of others.
>
> Dean
> who is trying and mostly failing at being more intelligent <:-| <g>
>
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:15:46 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > We may safely say it won't happen again to you.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >William Oliveri wrote:
> >>
> >> Well it might be different if I had 190,000 miles on it. Then I could
> >> stomach it. This engine has less than 500 miles. That would be a
serious
> >> blow at this point in time. I've changed my oil on this jeep and my
other
> >> cars many-a-time. Why this time with the double rubber gasket I don't
know.
> >>
> >> Bill
>

 

It's a good idea to change the oil at 300-500 miles after a rebuild. Most
engine builders use a cam lube, bearing lube, and some type of regular
assembly lube. Some of these lubricants are not made for sustained use, but
are made for initial engine startup to prevent lack of lubrication on a new
engine. Also, i many people will cut the oil filter open to look for metal
particles which would indicate a bearing problem. It is also common to use a
straight 30W oil for the initial few hundred miles, so if you live in a
place where there are extreme temp changes, it is a good idea to do so. It
is just good preventive maintenance.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ipvtqFd68n1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Per the engine rebuilder. Maybe Mike, Chris, or others can give feedback.
> Maybe it has something to do with the greases or lubricants the engine was
> put together with. When I changed it out there was some thicker, sluggier
> stuff at the bottom of the drain pan.
>
> Actually suppose to do it at 350 miles. My odometer is off due to the
> different tire size other than stock so it's somewhere around there.
>
> Bill
>
>
> "Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wiPxc.4442$Y3.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Why change the oil at 500 miles?
> >
>
>

 

It's a good idea to change the oil at 300-500 miles after a rebuild. Most
engine builders use a cam lube, bearing lube, and some type of regular
assembly lube. Some of these lubricants are not made for sustained use, but
are made for initial engine startup to prevent lack of lubrication on a new
engine. Also, i many people will cut the oil filter open to look for metal
particles which would indicate a bearing problem. It is also common to use a
straight 30W oil for the initial few hundred miles, so if you live in a
place where there are extreme temp changes, it is a good idea to do so. It
is just good preventive maintenance.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ipvtqFd68n1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Per the engine rebuilder. Maybe Mike, Chris, or others can give feedback.
> Maybe it has something to do with the greases or lubricants the engine was
> put together with. When I changed it out there was some thicker, sluggier
> stuff at the bottom of the drain pan.
>
> Actually suppose to do it at 350 miles. My odometer is off due to the
> different tire size other than stock so it's somewhere around there.
>
> Bill
>
>
> "Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wiPxc.4442$Y3.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Why change the oil at 500 miles?
> >
>
>

 

It's a good idea to change the oil at 300-500 miles after a rebuild. Most
engine builders use a cam lube, bearing lube, and some type of regular
assembly lube. Some of these lubricants are not made for sustained use, but
are made for initial engine startup to prevent lack of lubrication on a new
engine. Also, i many people will cut the oil filter open to look for metal
particles which would indicate a bearing problem. It is also common to use a
straight 30W oil for the initial few hundred miles, so if you live in a
place where there are extreme temp changes, it is a good idea to do so. It
is just good preventive maintenance.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ipvtqFd68n1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Per the engine rebuilder. Maybe Mike, Chris, or others can give feedback.
> Maybe it has something to do with the greases or lubricants the engine was
> put together with. When I changed it out there was some thicker, sluggier
> stuff at the bottom of the drain pan.
>
> Actually suppose to do it at 350 miles. My odometer is off due to the
> different tire size other than stock so it's somewhere around there.
>
> Bill
>
>
> "Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wiPxc.4442$Y3.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Why change the oil at 500 miles?
> >
>
>

 

It's a good idea to change the oil at 300-500 miles after a rebuild. Most
engine builders use a cam lube, bearing lube, and some type of regular
assembly lube. Some of these lubricants are not made for sustained use, but
are made for initial engine startup to prevent lack of lubrication on a new
engine. Also, i many people will cut the oil filter open to look for metal
particles which would indicate a bearing problem. It is also common to use a
straight 30W oil for the initial few hundred miles, so if you live in a
place where there are extreme temp changes, it is a good idea to do so. It
is just good preventive maintenance.

Chris

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ipvtqFd68n1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Per the engine rebuilder. Maybe Mike, Chris, or others can give feedback.
> Maybe it has something to do with the greases or lubricants the engine was
> put together with. When I changed it out there was some thicker, sluggier
> stuff at the bottom of the drain pan.
>
> Actually suppose to do it at 350 miles. My odometer is off due to the
> different tire size other than stock so it's somewhere around there.
>
> Bill
>
>
> "Jim85CJ" <jim_85cj@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wiPxc.4442$Y3.245@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Why change the oil at 500 miles?
> >
>
>

 

It probably hasn't happen to us because we wipe the filter base
making sure no dirt will get sucked in, and lube the "O" ring as per
instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dean wrote:
>
> Well, as bad as this might for Bill, I for one am really glad he posted. I'll
> show my ignorance by saying I've never heard of the dreaded double gasket
> before. I can't even begin to guess at how many times I've changed my own oil.
> And in all those oil changes I've never once checked to make sure the old gasket
> was not on the old oil filter where it belonged. I guess I'm just lucky.
>
> Thanks Bill, I'm checking my oil filters from here on out. Any fool can learn
> from his own mistakes, it takes someone of considerably more intelligence to
> learn from the mistakes of others.
>
> Dean
> who is trying and mostly failing at being more intelligent <:-| <g>

 

It probably hasn't happen to us because we wipe the filter base
making sure no dirt will get sucked in, and lube the "O" ring as per
instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dean wrote:
>
> Well, as bad as this might for Bill, I for one am really glad he posted. I'll
> show my ignorance by saying I've never heard of the dreaded double gasket
> before. I can't even begin to guess at how many times I've changed my own oil.
> And in all those oil changes I've never once checked to make sure the old gasket
> was not on the old oil filter where it belonged. I guess I'm just lucky.
>
> Thanks Bill, I'm checking my oil filters from here on out. Any fool can learn
> from his own mistakes, it takes someone of considerably more intelligence to
> learn from the mistakes of others.
>
> Dean
> who is trying and mostly failing at being more intelligent <:-| <g>

 

It probably hasn't happen to us because we wipe the filter base
making sure no dirt will get sucked in, and lube the "O" ring as per
instructions.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dean wrote:
>
> Well, as bad as this might for Bill, I for one am really glad he posted. I'll
> show my ignorance by saying I've never heard of the dreaded double gasket
> before. I can't even begin to guess at how many times I've changed my own oil.
> And in all those oil changes I've never once checked to make sure the old gasket
> was not on the old oil filter where it belonged. I guess I'm just lucky.
>
> Thanks Bill, I'm checking my oil filters from here on out. Any fool can learn
> from his own mistakes, it takes someone of considerably more intelligence to
> learn from the mistakes of others.
>
> Dean
> who is trying and mostly failing at being more intelligent <:-| <g>