What a dumb ass
06-08-2004, 09:37 PM
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
William Oliveri wrote:
> Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
>
> I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear the
> valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I pull
> over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the street,
> on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment a
> tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears these
> freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to call
> another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go up a
> couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we make
> it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears they
> cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down the
> road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it back
> to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the block)
> so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street a
> repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back to
> the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
>
> I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a double
> layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the new).
> My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't see
> it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just one
> gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
>
> So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> anyway.
>
> Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make sure
> the crappin filter is on correctly.
>
> Bill
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
William Oliveri wrote:
> Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
>
> I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear the
> valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I pull
> over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the street,
> on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment a
> tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears these
> freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to call
> another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go up a
> couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we make
> it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears they
> cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down the
> road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it back
> to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the block)
> so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street a
> repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back to
> the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
>
> I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a double
> layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the new).
> My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't see
> it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just one
> gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
>
> So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> anyway.
>
> Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make sure
> the crappin filter is on correctly.
>
> Bill
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
06-08-2004, 10:26 PM
#42
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Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and got
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-08-2004, 10:26 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and got
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-08-2004, 10:26 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and got
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-08-2004, 10:26 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and got
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing any
unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder and
that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
was a "cling" factor.
I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting louder
and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result was
they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
I can only run it now and hope for the best.
Bill
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> >
> > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
the
> > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
pull
> > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
street,
> > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that moment
a
> > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
these
> > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
call
> > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
up a
> > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as we
make
> > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
they
> > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further down
the
> > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
back
> > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with the
> > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A huge
> > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
block)
> > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone to
> > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the street
a
> > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it back
to
> > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> >
> > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
double
> > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
new).
> > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I didn't
see
> > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one (just
one
> > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> >
> > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > anyway.
> >
> > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and make
sure
> > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-08-2004, 10:30 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
One more thing. It seems the gods are taking me through the "education by
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
06-08-2004, 10:30 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
One more thing. It seems the gods are taking me through the "education by
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
06-08-2004, 10:30 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
One more thing. It seems the gods are taking me through the "education by
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
06-08-2004, 10:30 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What a dumb ***
One more thing. It seems the gods are taking me through the "education by
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> >
> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>
fire" route on this Jeep. I guess if everything goes wrong along the way it
can only happen so much?
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers). My oil pressure is
> still up at 70 psi or there abouts as it was before and I'm not hearing
any
> unusual noises. The oil I"m running is 20w 50 per the engine rebuilder
and
> that stuff seems a little thicker than other I've used so hopefully there
> was a "cling" factor.
>
> I read one post where a jeeper was getting his oil changed at one of those
> Jiffy lube places and they had it running and the noises were getting
louder
> and louder until finally they discovered they were running it without any
> oil in the block. Luckily the guy had it documented and the end result
was
> they replaced his engine after he had it inspected at the dealer.
>
> I can only run it now and hope for the best.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:XRtxc.5266$oO5.840@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > Don't feel bad. It's happened before and it will happen again. I learned
> > my lesson watching someone else make the same mistake, so I was lucky
> > and he was lucky because the error was discovered while the vehicle was
> > still on the lift. I guess I really did learn a lesson because before I
> > completely read your post, I knew what the outcome would likely be.
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I have to relay this experience I had today.
> > >
> > > I'm on my way to work this morning on the freeway and I start to hear
> the
> > > valves tapping. I look over and my oil pressure is at 0. Krap, so I
> pull
> > > over immediately and pop the hood. I have oil everywhere. On the
> street,
> > > on the engine, on the inside of the hood, everywhere. So at that
moment
> a
> > > tow truck driver pulls up (I'm on the 55 freeway in Orange County
> > > California, just before the 405 exit). Now, in California it appears
> these
> > > freeway tow trucks will pull off the freeway for free then you need to
> call
> > > another tow truck or deal with it where he decides to drop you. We go
> up a
> > > couple of exits and he makes his way to the drop off location and as
we
> make
> > > it there he passes three filling stations along the way. It appears
> they
> > > cannot stop at a private business due to some legalities so further
down
> the
> > > road we go. Finally we get to the drop off site and I have to hoof it
> back
> > > to the filling station to buy some oil. I get back to the jeep with
the
> > > oil, poured some in and cranked it up to see where it's leaking. A
huge
> > > gusher comes out at the oil filter seam (where the filter meets the
> block)
> > > so I hurry up and turn it off. Now I need to hoof it to find someone
to
> > > sell me an oil filter. Luckily, a couple of businesses down the
street
> a
> > > repair shop has one to fit my jeep. Filter in hand, I now hoof it
back
> to
> > > the jeep and pull the old one off. When I did that I saw the problem.
> > >
> > > I had changed the oil last weekend and filter along with it. I didn't
> > > notice at the time but the rubber gasket from the old filter was still
> > > attached to the block and when I put the new filter on there was a
> double
> > > layer of this rubber gasket (one from the old filter and one from the
> new).
> > > My engine is black and the gasket is black so in my older years I
didn't
> see
> > > it. So it wasn't sealing correctly of course. I got the new one
(just
> one
> > > gasket this time) on and put the oil in and all was good again.
> > >
> > > So I made it to work with oil all over my office pants but made it in
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Moral of the story is: Carry an extra filter and change of oil and
make
> sure
> > > the crappin filter is on correctly.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
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> > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > 01 XJ Sport
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> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
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06-09-2004, 12:01 PM
#50
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Re: What a dumb ***
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2inb1hFoderqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Well, I did a search on Goggle groups 'no oil" + "damage" + "engine" and
got
> pretty much the jest of what could have happened internally to the engine.
> I think I caught it pretty quick (crosses fingers).
Now see Bill... if you'd been running some of that Slick 50 snake oil you'd
have no fears of engine damage. Heck, in those infomercials they drain the
engine of oil and run it for hours at redline with just the left-over
residue. Then they disassemble the engine and guess what? No engine
damage!!!! Gotta get me some that stuff. ;-)
-Fred W