L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Another personal attack without one fact to prove me wrong.
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Lon wrote:
>
> It would be funny if not so consistently inane.

billy ray

The first hit from that search sequence:

Canola-based Motor Oils ... (a chemical restructuring of the base molecule
at high temperatures in ... Oil changes from petroleum to bio-based oils
also show very significant ...
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"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I was referring to the oil company's base molecule refined from
> their crude as in synthetic oil, we are talking about. read about it,
> that way you may not sound so dumb:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...e%22+petroleum
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> There is no one base molecule.

billy ray

The first hit from that search sequence:

Canola-based Motor Oils ... (a chemical restructuring of the base molecule
at high temperatures in ... Oil changes from petroleum to bio-based oils
also show very significant ...
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"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449F2244.6F27A477@***.net...
> I was referring to the oil company's base molecule refined from
> their crude as in synthetic oil, we are talking about. read about it,
> that way you may not sound so dumb:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...e%22+petroleum
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> There is no one base molecule.

billy ray

The first hit from that search sequence:

Canola-based Motor Oils ... (a chemical restructuring of the base molecule
at high temperatures in ... Oil changes from petroleum to bio-based oils
also show very significant ...
www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-029.html - 24k - Cached -
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"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449F2244.6F27A477@***.net...
> I was referring to the oil company's base molecule refined from
> their crude as in synthetic oil, we are talking about. read about it,
> that way you may not sound so dumb:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...e%22+petroleum
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> There is no one base molecule.

billy ray

From my post earlier:
...."Esters start life as fatty
>>
>> acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into
>> esters,
>> diesters, and polyesters"


From that link you just provided

........"In automotive applications, the first qualified synthetic crankcase
motor oils were based entirely on esters and these products were quite
successful when properly formulated. Esters have given way to PAOs in this
application due to PAOs lower cost and their formulating similarities to
mineral oil. Nevertheless, esters are nearly always used in combination with
PAOs in full synthetic motor oils in order to balance the effect on seals,
solubilize additives, reduce volatility, and improve energy efficiency
through higher lubricity. The percentage of ester used in motor oils can
vary anywhere from 5 to 25% depending upon the desired properties and the
type of ester employed."

...."Summary

Esters are a broad and diverse family of synthetic lubricant basestocks
which can be custom designed to meet specific physical and performance
properties. The inherent polarity of esters improves their performance in
lubrication by reducing volatility, increasing lubricity, providing cleaner
operation, and making the products biodegradable. The wide range of
available raw materials allow an ester designer to optimize a product over
numerous variables in order to maximize the performance and value to the
client. They may be used alone in very high temperature applications for
optimum performance, or blended with PAOs or other synthetic basestocks
where their complementary properties improve the balance of the finished
lubricant. Esters have been used in synthetic lubricants for more than 50
years and continue to grow as the drive for efficiency make operating
environments more severe. Because of the complexity involved in the
designing, selecting, and blending of an ester basestock, the choice of the
optimum ester should be left to a qualified ester engineer who can better
balance the desired properties."





"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449F2AC5.58DAD555@***.net...
> Bill,
> Polyol Ester is an additive used in all motor oils to control
> acids: http://www.hatcocorporation.com/pages/about_esters.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Another type of base oil is made from refined and processed esters and is
>> called Group V. Esters start life as fatty
>>
>> acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into
>> esters,
>> diesters, and polyesters. Your
>>
>> vegetarian girlfriend should love that. Group V base stocks are the most
>> expensive of all to produce. However, the
>>
>> esters are polar molecules and have very significant solvent properties -
>> an
>> ester base oil all by itself will do a very
>>
>> decent job of keeping your engine clean. So, people who are serious about
>> making a superior oil will usually mix
>>
>> some Group V oils into their base stock.
>>
>> An example is Red Line oil:
>>
>> http://www.redlineoil.com/products_m...3&synthFlash=1

billy ray

From my post earlier:
...."Esters start life as fatty
>>
>> acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into
>> esters,
>> diesters, and polyesters"


From that link you just provided

........"In automotive applications, the first qualified synthetic crankcase
motor oils were based entirely on esters and these products were quite
successful when properly formulated. Esters have given way to PAOs in this
application due to PAOs lower cost and their formulating similarities to
mineral oil. Nevertheless, esters are nearly always used in combination with
PAOs in full synthetic motor oils in order to balance the effect on seals,
solubilize additives, reduce volatility, and improve energy efficiency
through higher lubricity. The percentage of ester used in motor oils can
vary anywhere from 5 to 25% depending upon the desired properties and the
type of ester employed."

...."Summary

Esters are a broad and diverse family of synthetic lubricant basestocks
which can be custom designed to meet specific physical and performance
properties. The inherent polarity of esters improves their performance in
lubrication by reducing volatility, increasing lubricity, providing cleaner
operation, and making the products biodegradable. The wide range of
available raw materials allow an ester designer to optimize a product over
numerous variables in order to maximize the performance and value to the
client. They may be used alone in very high temperature applications for
optimum performance, or blended with PAOs or other synthetic basestocks
where their complementary properties improve the balance of the finished
lubricant. Esters have been used in synthetic lubricants for more than 50
years and continue to grow as the drive for efficiency make operating
environments more severe. Because of the complexity involved in the
designing, selecting, and blending of an ester basestock, the choice of the
optimum ester should be left to a qualified ester engineer who can better
balance the desired properties."





"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449F2AC5.58DAD555@***.net...
> Bill,
> Polyol Ester is an additive used in all motor oils to control
> acids: http://www.hatcocorporation.com/pages/about_esters.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Another type of base oil is made from refined and processed esters and is
>> called Group V. Esters start life as fatty
>>
>> acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into
>> esters,
>> diesters, and polyesters. Your
>>
>> vegetarian girlfriend should love that. Group V base stocks are the most
>> expensive of all to produce. However, the
>>
>> esters are polar molecules and have very significant solvent properties -
>> an
>> ester base oil all by itself will do a very
>>
>> decent job of keeping your engine clean. So, people who are serious about
>> making a superior oil will usually mix
>>
>> some Group V oils into their base stock.
>>
>> An example is Red Line oil:
>>
>> http://www.redlineoil.com/products_m...3&synthFlash=1

billy ray

From my post earlier:
...."Esters start life as fatty
>>
>> acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into
>> esters,
>> diesters, and polyesters"


From that link you just provided

........"In automotive applications, the first qualified synthetic crankcase
motor oils were based entirely on esters and these products were quite
successful when properly formulated. Esters have given way to PAOs in this
application due to PAOs lower cost and their formulating similarities to
mineral oil. Nevertheless, esters are nearly always used in combination with
PAOs in full synthetic motor oils in order to balance the effect on seals,
solubilize additives, reduce volatility, and improve energy efficiency
through higher lubricity. The percentage of ester used in motor oils can
vary anywhere from 5 to 25% depending upon the desired properties and the
type of ester employed."

...."Summary

Esters are a broad and diverse family of synthetic lubricant basestocks
which can be custom designed to meet specific physical and performance
properties. The inherent polarity of esters improves their performance in
lubrication by reducing volatility, increasing lubricity, providing cleaner
operation, and making the products biodegradable. The wide range of
available raw materials allow an ester designer to optimize a product over
numerous variables in order to maximize the performance and value to the
client. They may be used alone in very high temperature applications for
optimum performance, or blended with PAOs or other synthetic basestocks
where their complementary properties improve the balance of the finished
lubricant. Esters have been used in synthetic lubricants for more than 50
years and continue to grow as the drive for efficiency make operating
environments more severe. Because of the complexity involved in the
designing, selecting, and blending of an ester basestock, the choice of the
optimum ester should be left to a qualified ester engineer who can better
balance the desired properties."





"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449F2AC5.58DAD555@***.net...
> Bill,
> Polyol Ester is an additive used in all motor oils to control
> acids: http://www.hatcocorporation.com/pages/about_esters.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Another type of base oil is made from refined and processed esters and is
>> called Group V. Esters start life as fatty
>>
>> acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into
>> esters,
>> diesters, and polyesters. Your
>>
>> vegetarian girlfriend should love that. Group V base stocks are the most
>> expensive of all to produce. However, the
>>
>> esters are polar molecules and have very significant solvent properties -
>> an
>> ester base oil all by itself will do a very
>>
>> decent job of keeping your engine clean. So, people who are serious about
>> making a superior oil will usually mix
>>
>> some Group V oils into their base stock.
>>
>> An example is Red Line oil:
>>
>> http://www.redlineoil.com/products_m...3&synthFlash=1

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Canola oil: a rape plant of an improved variety having seeds that
are low in erucic acid and are the source of canola oil. Yes, you found
a bio-based oil. Now will the grant sucking, bleed heart liberal wackos
find someone that will buy it and at what subsidies will the tax payer,
have to pay?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The first hit from that search sequence:
>
> Canola-based Motor Oils ... (a chemical restructuring of the base molecule
> at high temperatures in ... Oil changes from petroleum to bio-based oils
> also show very significant ...
> www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-029.html - 24k - Cached -
> Similar pages

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Canola oil: a rape plant of an improved variety having seeds that
are low in erucic acid and are the source of canola oil. Yes, you found
a bio-based oil. Now will the grant sucking, bleed heart liberal wackos
find someone that will buy it and at what subsidies will the tax payer,
have to pay?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The first hit from that search sequence:
>
> Canola-based Motor Oils ... (a chemical restructuring of the base molecule
> at high temperatures in ... Oil changes from petroleum to bio-based oils
> also show very significant ...
> www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-029.html - 24k - Cached -
> Similar pages

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Canola oil: a rape plant of an improved variety having seeds that
are low in erucic acid and are the source of canola oil. Yes, you found
a bio-based oil. Now will the grant sucking, bleed heart liberal wackos
find someone that will buy it and at what subsidies will the tax payer,
have to pay?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The first hit from that search sequence:
>
> Canola-based Motor Oils ... (a chemical restructuring of the base molecule
> at high temperatures in ... Oil changes from petroleum to bio-based oils
> also show very significant ...
> www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-029.html - 24k - Cached -
> Similar pages