Gerald G. McGeorge

Relax, Earle, I have no axe to grind. (However, aren't you kinda worried
that all the folks in Silverton with the old CJs & even the flaties might
think YOU'RE a rich sissie what with that YJ and all?)

By the way, who the hell is "George"


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi803a$66m5l$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> This doesn't mean a hell of a lot to me. There are people who post all
the
> time who are idiots, and some people who hardly ever post but when they
> finally have something to say it is worth reading. You haven't made it
into
> either category yet, but keep trying. ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkenvfaueqlg6f@corp.supernews.com...
> > Sorry, I've been a contributor to this and several other forums for
years.
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:K1J1b.277$p%.187694187@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > > I, on the other hand, am not convinced he IS a newbie. I've seen the
> > > diatribe, thought process (or lack thereof) and writing style. A troll
> > > is a troll is a troll, no matter what alias is used. Give him all the
> > > chances you want. He has graduated into my killfile.
> > >
> > > Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> > >
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:8CB1b.256$aj.152747171@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > > >
> > > >>Of course he's trolling. No one is that obtuse by accident.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > being a newbie to the group (at least, ive never seen him before) i
> > figured
> > > > he might just be trying to fit in with what he thought was the
feeling
> > of
> > > > the group. im waiting until i see a little more (hopefully a direct
> > > > response to my questions) before i form any impressions. in the
past
> > some
> > > > of my statements concerning the liberty have been taken the wrong
way
> > and
> > > > maybe i seemed elitist. although i clarified my "problem" was not
> with
> > the
> > > > liberty itself, sometimes it just didnt come out right. maybe thats
> > what
> > > > happened here, maybe not. i hate to dismiss anyone as a troll, and
> only
> > do
> > > > when its blatently obvious.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

I would not settle for anything less than a Dana ROCK 60 on my next new
Jeep, (I mean what is Chrysler thinking with that sissy Dana 44, anyway?)

"Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
news:vkfm90tn0f2209@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my next Jeep
> will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving Chrysler time
> to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean time,
let's
> go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much better
than
> anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC with a
> lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > Well said, RR!
> >
> > Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)
> >
> > Red Racer wrote:
> >
> > > I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you
> don't
> > > have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and
went
> > > with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer,
and
> the
> > > other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing
> the
> > > entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a
> scratch.
> > >
> > > So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take
away
> > > from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
equipped
> > > than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some
> stupid
> > > movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if
it
> had
> > > a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
Margarita
> > > while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a
hot
> > > day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain
my
> > > dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

I would not settle for anything less than a Dana ROCK 60 on my next new
Jeep, (I mean what is Chrysler thinking with that sissy Dana 44, anyway?)

"Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
news:vkfm90tn0f2209@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my next Jeep
> will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving Chrysler time
> to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean time,
let's
> go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much better
than
> anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC with a
> lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > Well said, RR!
> >
> > Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)
> >
> > Red Racer wrote:
> >
> > > I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you
> don't
> > > have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and
went
> > > with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer,
and
> the
> > > other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing
> the
> > > entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a
> scratch.
> > >
> > > So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take
away
> > > from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
equipped
> > > than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some
> stupid
> > > movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if
it
> had
> > > a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
Margarita
> > > while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a
hot
> > > day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain
my
> > > dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

Red Racer

In fact, I do.
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi91oh$6simg$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You probably like ABS too...
>
> Earle
>
> "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> >
> > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is "veterans"
> > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local community
> > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars (and
> Jeeps)
> > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them including
> > "technology".
> >
> > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does exactly what
I
> > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have probably been
> on.
> > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender option, all
> the
> > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had read the
> > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver, and can
> wheel
> > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good, and not
> "new
> > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with your
> homework.
> >
> > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that attempt to
> keep
> > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time out". Get
real
> > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my uncle,
are
> > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a manly Jeep.
> > All
> > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how smart
you
> > are
> > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need, maybe you
> > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't take a
> > little
> > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from Usenet...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled in 25
> years
> > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is "new
> > fangled
> > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential
customers
> of
> > > DC
> > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us happy, as
> > > opposed
> > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders. Front
and
> > > rear
> > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the friggin JEEP
> > emblem
> > > in
> > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all of those
> > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue jays on a
> > > friggin
> > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any knowledge of
what
> > the
> > > F
> > > > they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear
> > peach
> > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go
> > back
> > > to
> > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are,
> and
> > > why
> > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy
> offer.
> > If
> > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and
> spend
> > > 10K
> > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are
> cool,
> > > and
> > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are
> all
> > > the
> > > > same size guys....
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers"
> to
> > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my
> > next
> > > > Jeep
> > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving
> > Chrysler
> > > > time
> > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean
> > time,
> > > > let's
> > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much
> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC
> with
> > a
> > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the
> Rubi...
> > > :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous
> that
> > > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago,
> and
> > > > went
> > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the
> > odometer,
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all
> > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it
without
> a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't
> take
> > > > away
> > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> > > > equipped
> > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not
> some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning.
> Heck,
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
> > > Margarita
> > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees
> on
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to
> > maintain
> > > my
> > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>--
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>tw
> > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Red Racer

In fact, I do.
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi91oh$6simg$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You probably like ABS too...
>
> Earle
>
> "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> >
> > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is "veterans"
> > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local community
> > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars (and
> Jeeps)
> > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them including
> > "technology".
> >
> > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does exactly what
I
> > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have probably been
> on.
> > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender option, all
> the
> > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had read the
> > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver, and can
> wheel
> > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good, and not
> "new
> > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with your
> homework.
> >
> > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that attempt to
> keep
> > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time out". Get
real
> > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my uncle,
are
> > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a manly Jeep.
> > All
> > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how smart
you
> > are
> > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need, maybe you
> > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't take a
> > little
> > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from Usenet...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled in 25
> years
> > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is "new
> > fangled
> > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential
customers
> of
> > > DC
> > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us happy, as
> > > opposed
> > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders. Front
and
> > > rear
> > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the friggin JEEP
> > emblem
> > > in
> > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all of those
> > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue jays on a
> > > friggin
> > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any knowledge of
what
> > the
> > > F
> > > > they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear
> > peach
> > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go
> > back
> > > to
> > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are,
> and
> > > why
> > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy
> offer.
> > If
> > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and
> spend
> > > 10K
> > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are
> cool,
> > > and
> > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are
> all
> > > the
> > > > same size guys....
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers"
> to
> > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my
> > next
> > > > Jeep
> > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving
> > Chrysler
> > > > time
> > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean
> > time,
> > > > let's
> > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much
> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC
> with
> > a
> > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the
> Rubi...
> > > :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous
> that
> > > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago,
> and
> > > > went
> > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the
> > odometer,
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all
> > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it
without
> a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't
> take
> > > > away
> > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> > > > equipped
> > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not
> some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning.
> Heck,
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
> > > Margarita
> > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees
> on
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to
> > maintain
> > > my
> > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>--
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>tw
> > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with 37's
or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......

You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the next
Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell did
THAT happen?

> Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear peach
> tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go back
to
> regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are, and
why
> everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy offer. If
> you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and spend
10K
> making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are cool,
and
> capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are all
the
> same size guys....
>
> RR
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers" to
> > cry about. :)
> >
> > Red Racer wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my next
> Jeep
> > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving Chrysler
> time
> > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean time,
> let's
> > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much better
> than
> > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC with a
> > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > >
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > >
> > >>Well said, RR!
> > >>
> > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi...
:)
> > >>
> > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that
you
> > >
> > > don't
> > >
> > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and
> went
> > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer,
> and
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a
> > >
> > > scratch.
> > >
> > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take
> away
> > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> equipped
> > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some
> > >
> > > stupid
> > >
> > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if
> it
> > >
> > > had
> > >
> > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
Margarita
> > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a
> hot
> > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain
my
> > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > >>tw
> > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > >>01 XJ Sport
> > >>
> > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > >>-- Dave Barry
> > >>
> > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with 37's
or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......

You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the next
Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell did
THAT happen?

> Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear peach
> tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go back
to
> regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are, and
why
> everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy offer. If
> you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and spend
10K
> making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are cool,
and
> capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are all
the
> same size guys....
>
> RR
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers" to
> > cry about. :)
> >
> > Red Racer wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my next
> Jeep
> > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving Chrysler
> time
> > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean time,
> let's
> > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much better
> than
> > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC with a
> > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > >
> > >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > >
> > >>Well said, RR!
> > >>
> > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi...
:)
> > >>
> > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that
you
> > >
> > > don't
> > >
> > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and
> went
> > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer,
> and
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a
> > >
> > > scratch.
> > >
> > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take
> away
> > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> equipped
> > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some
> > >
> > > stupid
> > >
> > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if
> it
> > >
> > > had
> > >
> > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
Margarita
> > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a
> hot
> > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain
my
> > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > >>tw
> > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > >>01 XJ Sport
> > >>
> > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > >>-- Dave Barry
> > >>
> > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

Red Racer

"However, not everything that is new and shiny is good"

Now that I now where you work, all I have to say is "that's for sure".

Boy, you sure make some awesome $. I'm impressed to the hilt now. You must
really be an expert on Jeeps, because you sure have a way to go on
technology.

Hey everyone!! earle makes enough to buy us all in cab blenders. Let's
party!!


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi93jt$6trsb$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You seem to have formed the impression that I am anti-technology. This is
> not quite true, as I am sure the following link will convince you.
>
> http://earleh.tripod.com/w2.html
>
> However, not everything that is new and shiny is good, although plenty of
> people believe that this is so. At Microsoft we had a special name for
this
> type of person. We called them "customers."
>
> Earle
>
> "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> >
> > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is "veterans"
> > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local community
> > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars (and
> Jeeps)
> > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them including
> > "technology".
> >
> > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does exactly what
I
> > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have probably been
> on.
> > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender option, all
> the
> > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had read the
> > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver, and can
> wheel
> > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good, and not
> "new
> > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with your
> homework.
> >
> > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that attempt to
> keep
> > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time out". Get
real
> > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my uncle,
are
> > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a manly Jeep.
> > All
> > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how smart
you
> > are
> > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need, maybe you
> > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't take a
> > little
> > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from Usenet...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled in 25
> years
> > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is "new
> > fangled
> > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential
customers
> of
> > > DC
> > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us happy, as
> > > opposed
> > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders. Front
and
> > > rear
> > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the friggin JEEP
> > emblem
> > > in
> > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all of those
> > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue jays on a
> > > friggin
> > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any knowledge of
what
> > the
> > > F
> > > > they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear
> > peach
> > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go
> > back
> > > to
> > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are,
> and
> > > why
> > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy
> offer.
> > If
> > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and
> spend
> > > 10K
> > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are
> cool,
> > > and
> > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are
> all
> > > the
> > > > same size guys....
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers"
> to
> > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my
> > next
> > > > Jeep
> > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving
> > Chrysler
> > > > time
> > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean
> > time,
> > > > let's
> > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much
> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC
> with
> > a
> > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the
> Rubi...
> > > :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous
> that
> > > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago,
> and
> > > > went
> > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the
> > odometer,
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all
> > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it
without
> a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't
> take
> > > > away
> > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> > > > equipped
> > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not
> some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning.
> Heck,
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
> > > Margarita
> > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees
> on
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to
> > maintain
> > > my
> > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>--
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>tw
> > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Red Racer

"However, not everything that is new and shiny is good"

Now that I now where you work, all I have to say is "that's for sure".

Boy, you sure make some awesome $. I'm impressed to the hilt now. You must
really be an expert on Jeeps, because you sure have a way to go on
technology.

Hey everyone!! earle makes enough to buy us all in cab blenders. Let's
party!!


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi93jt$6trsb$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You seem to have formed the impression that I am anti-technology. This is
> not quite true, as I am sure the following link will convince you.
>
> http://earleh.tripod.com/w2.html
>
> However, not everything that is new and shiny is good, although plenty of
> people believe that this is so. At Microsoft we had a special name for
this
> type of person. We called them "customers."
>
> Earle
>
> "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> >
> > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is "veterans"
> > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local community
> > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars (and
> Jeeps)
> > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them including
> > "technology".
> >
> > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does exactly what
I
> > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have probably been
> on.
> > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender option, all
> the
> > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had read the
> > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver, and can
> wheel
> > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good, and not
> "new
> > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with your
> homework.
> >
> > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that attempt to
> keep
> > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time out". Get
real
> > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my uncle,
are
> > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a manly Jeep.
> > All
> > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how smart
you
> > are
> > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need, maybe you
> > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't take a
> > little
> > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from Usenet...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled in 25
> years
> > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is "new
> > fangled
> > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential
customers
> of
> > > DC
> > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us happy, as
> > > opposed
> > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders. Front
and
> > > rear
> > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the friggin JEEP
> > emblem
> > > in
> > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all of those
> > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue jays on a
> > > friggin
> > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any knowledge of
what
> > the
> > > F
> > > > they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear
> > peach
> > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go
> > back
> > > to
> > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are,
> and
> > > why
> > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy
> offer.
> > If
> > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and
> spend
> > > 10K
> > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are
> cool,
> > > and
> > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are
> all
> > > the
> > > > same size guys....
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers"
> to
> > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my
> > next
> > > > Jeep
> > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving
> > Chrysler
> > > > time
> > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean
> > time,
> > > > let's
> > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much
> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC
> with
> > a
> > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the
> Rubi...
> > > :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous
> that
> > > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago,
> and
> > > > went
> > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the
> > odometer,
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all
> > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it
without
> a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't
> take
> > > > away
> > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> > > > equipped
> > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not
> some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning.
> Heck,
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
> > > Margarita
> > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees
> on
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to
> > maintain
> > > my
> > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>--
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>tw
> > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

Nothing like ABS unlocking the brakes as
you come down Black Bear into Telluride, eh Earle?

Actually, two years ago on the first switchback on Black Bear I snapped a
stainless line on the left front of my YJ and had the "pleasure" of coming
down the rest of the way into town with the emergency brake only.....a true
as true can be story. Therefore, I have experienced the joys of ABS while
wheeling!


"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi91oh$6simg$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> You probably like ABS too...
>
> Earle
>
> "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> >
> > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is "veterans"
> > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local community
> > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars (and
> Jeeps)
> > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them including
> > "technology".
> >
> > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does exactly what
I
> > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have probably been
> on.
> > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender option, all
> the
> > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had read the
> > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver, and can
> wheel
> > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good, and not
> "new
> > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with your
> homework.
> >
> > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that attempt to
> keep
> > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time out". Get
real
> > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my uncle,
are
> > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a manly Jeep.
> > All
> > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how smart
you
> > are
> > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need, maybe you
> > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't take a
> > little
> > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from Usenet...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled in 25
> years
> > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is "new
> > fangled
> > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential
customers
> of
> > > DC
> > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us happy, as
> > > opposed
> > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders. Front
and
> > > rear
> > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the friggin JEEP
> > emblem
> > > in
> > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all of those
> > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue jays on a
> > > friggin
> > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any knowledge of
what
> > the
> > > F
> > > > they are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain in rear
> > peach
> > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I will now go
> > back
> > > to
> > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum radiators are,
> and
> > > why
> > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what thy
> offer.
> > If
> > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight thing and
> spend
> > > 10K
> > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff. They are
> cool,
> > > and
> > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The rocks are
> all
> > > the
> > > > same size guys....
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran Jeepers"
> to
> > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then...... Frankly, my
> > next
> > > > Jeep
> > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am giving
> > Chrysler
> > > > time
> > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In the mean
> > time,
> > > > let's
> > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They are much
> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come from DC
> with
> > a
> > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be next.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the
> Rubi...
> > > :)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous
> that
> > > you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago,
> and
> > > > went
> > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the
> > odometer,
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all
> > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it
without
> a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't
> take
> > > > away
> > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better
> > > > equipped
> > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not
> some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning.
> Heck,
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > had
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool
> > > Margarita
> > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees
> on
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to
> > maintain
> > > my
> > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>--
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>tw
> > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>