I think I know which one you mean, I ran into it last April in Moab of all
places. If it's the green one I'm thinking about I used to see it here in
town from time to time, and it is indeed sweet.

In the old days hard core Silvertonians must have doe a lot of miles in
Power Wagons, in fact I think there are a few Power Wagon carcasses at the
bottom of Ophir Pass!

I went to college at Western New Mexico U. back in the '70's. I worked part
time on a ranch in Cliff, NM and had a totally worn out Power Wagon to use
as a work truck. Loved the Hell out of it...when it ran.

Hey, what the Hell is going on with the Cascade, anyway?

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bi993a$6r6va$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I was talking about the Power Wagon, but I think both. ;o) That is one
> sweet Power Wagon, and the owner got it with a brand new government issue
> engine and a bunch of other goodies too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkg9fbdqa02ca3@corp.supernews.com...
> > What, the Cascade Lodge or the Power Wagon???
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
message
> > news:bi982i$6q5iv$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Next time you are up drive another mile up U.S. 550 to the Cascade
Lodge
> > and
> > > eyeball the Power Wagon in front. Guy up here bought that from a
> > Durangoan
> > > for a song...
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:vkg8l7h2prk008@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Hey, you ain't one of them rich sissies that's moved into Silverton,
> now
> > > ARE
> > > > YOU????? Hell, Earle, if the Silvertonians see this you're dog meat!
> > > They're
> > > > likely to drive that old half-track right through your parlor!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > news:bi93jt$6trsb$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > You seem to have formed the impression that I am anti-technology.
> > This
> > > is
> > > > > not quite true, as I am sure the following link will convince you.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://earleh.tripod.com/w2.html
> > > > >
> > > > > However, not everything that is new and shiny is good, although
> plenty
> > > of
> > > > > people believe that this is so. At Microsoft we had a special
name
> > for
> > > > this
> > > > > type of person. We called them "customers."
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle
> > > > >
> > > > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:vkg0u8jj17ld7@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > Hey twaldron.... I've made my case..... :) read on....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ribbing? I can take plenty of it. I'm just saying that it is
> > > "veterans"
> > > > > > like you that have a closed mind. Maybe a course in a local
> > community
> > > > > > college on auto technology will enlighten you a bit Earle. Cars
> (and
> > > > > Jeeps)
> > > > > > have computers now, and everything else that comes with them
> > including
> > > > > > "technology".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a CJ-7. I like it, and am satisfied with it. It does
> exactly
> > > what
> > > > I
> > > > > > want it do, in some of the roughest terrain that you have
probably
> > > been
> > > > > on.
> > > > > > A new Rubicon can do the same thing, and if it has a blender
> option,
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > better. Sorry about the square headlight line, but if you had
read
> > the
> > > > > > message, you would have gotten the point. I am a good driver,
and
> > can
> > > > > wheel
> > > > > > a Rubicon just as well as I can wheel my CJ. New stuff is good,
> and
> > > not
> > > > > "new
> > > > > > crap". I'll take the class with you, may need some help with
your
> > > > > homework.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Usenet? I maybe don't belong here? It is people like me that
> attempt
> > > to
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > the perspective, not ruin it. Maybe you should take a "time
out".
> > Get
> > > > real
> > > > > > man, there are things known as "today's stuff", and you like my
> > uncle,
> > > > are
> > > > > > living there with no forward vision. Too bad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > > news:bi8t26$65n82$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > > You don't need 10k to make a square headlight thing into a
manly
> > > Jeep.
> > > > > > All
> > > > > > > you need is a good driver. If you need people to tell you how
> > smart
> > > > you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > to buy all the new cool expensive stuff that you don't need,
> maybe
> > > you
> > > > > > > should have listened to your uncle a little bit. If you can't
> > take
> > > a
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > ribbing now and then maybe you'd better stay away from
Usenet...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Earle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Red Racer" <rcanden@garlic.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:vkfqi1m683ksc9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > > No kidding! My uncle is a veteran jeeper. He hasn't wheeled
in
> > 25
> > > > > years
> > > > > > > > (veteran?) but any Jeep that has anymore than what he had is
> > "new
> > > > > > fangled
> > > > > > > > crap". What a sorry attitude. We as customers, or potential
> > > > customers
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > DC
> > > > > > > > should be lucky they still have an interest in keeping us
> happy,
> > > as
> > > > > > > opposed
> > > > > > > > to building low rider junk with 4WD and soccer ball holders.
> > Front
> > > > and
> > > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > > dash controlled lockers, a 4:1 transfer case, and the
friggin
> > JEEP
> > > > > > emblem
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the same place it has been for decades should be making all
of
> > > those
> > > > > > > > "veterans" happy. Instead, they sound like a bunch of blue
> jays
> > on
> > > a
> > > > > > > friggin
> > > > > > > > fence post crying "new crap" "new crap", without any
knowledge
> > of
> > > > what
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > F
> > > > > > > > they are talking about.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, I have had a few beers today while cutting down a pain
in
> > > rear
> > > > > > peach
> > > > > > > > tree, and mowing the lawn after 2 weeks without a cut. I
will
> > now
> > > go
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > regular old Red Racer yappng about how good aluminum
radiators
> > > are,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > everyone should run a 160 thermostat. But, a Rubicon is what
> thy
> > > > > offer.
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > you don't like it, buy an old CJ, or a square headlight
thing
> > and
> > > > > spend
> > > > > > > 10K
> > > > > > > > making it into a manly Jeep. I'm going for the new stuff.
They
> > are
> > > > > cool,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > capable, even with the AC on and the blender running. The
> rocks
> > > are
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > same size guys....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RR
> > > > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:kYQ1b.816$a71.253585422@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > > > > > Heh! Sure a factory lift. Something else for the "veteran
> > > Jeepers"
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > cry about. :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks!! I come up with good ones now and then......
> > Frankly,
> > > my
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > Jeep
> > > > > > > > > > will be a Rubicon. My CJ is quite good still, so I am
> giving
> > > > > > Chrysler
> > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > to invent a 12V blender that can actually crush ice. In
> the
> > > mean
> > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > let's
> > > > > > > > > > go wheeling and stop complaining about new Jeeps. They
are
> > > much
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > anything older, and while I think they should all come
> from
> > DC
> > > > > with
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > lift,at least 33s and a D60 rear. that might be
next.....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > > > >
news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>Well said, RR!
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on
> the
> > > > > Rubi...
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>Red Racer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just
> > jealous
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few
> weeks
> > > ago,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > went
> > > > > > > > > >>>with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on
> the
> > > > > > odometer,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no
problems
> at
> > > all
> > > > > > doing
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of
it
> > > > without
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > scratch.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That
> > > doesn't
> > > > > take
> > > > > > > > away
> > > > > > > > > >>>from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one,
and
> > > better
> > > > > > > > equipped
> > > > > > > > > >>>than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the
> vehicle,
> > > not
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > stupid
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>movie star promo, and so what if they have air
> > conditioning.
> > > > > Heck,
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like
a
> > cool
> > > > > > > Margarita
> > > > > > > > > >>>while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70
> > > degrees
> > > > > on
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > hot
> > > > > > > > > >>>day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the
back
> to
> > > > > > maintain
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > >>>dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I
want.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>--
> > > > > > > > >
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > > > > > >>tw
> > > > > > > > > >>03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > > > > > >>01 XJ Sport
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental
> > > illness."
> > > > > > > > > >>-- Dave Barry
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > > > > > >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > > > > >
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >
__________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > > > > > tw
> > > > > > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > > > > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental
> > illness."
> > > > > > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > > > > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > > > > >
__________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to the
TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile, back at
the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44 front
axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things" rule
that is biting?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
: Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with 37's
: or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
:
: You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
: understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the
next
: Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell
did
: THAT happen?

 

I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to the
TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile, back at
the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44 front
axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things" rule
that is biting?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
: Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with 37's
: or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
:
: You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
: understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the
next
: Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell
did
: THAT happen?

 

Finally... someone who gets my point. Thank you!!. Well said!




"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Cu02b.2974$wz1.27542685@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
> been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to the
> TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
> some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile, back
at
> the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44
front
> axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things" rule
> that is biting?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
> : Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with
37's
> : or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
> :
> : You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
> : understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the
> next
> : Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell
> did
> : THAT happen?
>
>

 

Finally... someone who gets my point. Thank you!!. Well said!




"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Cu02b.2974$wz1.27542685@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
> been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to the
> TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
> some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile, back
at
> the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44
front
> axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things" rule
> that is biting?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
> : Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with
37's
> : or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
> :
> : You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
> : understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the
> next
> : Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell
> did
> : THAT happen?
>
>

 

Dave, I DID earn my Rubi. Every last cent I spend on it too. As far as
the anti-Rubicon sentiments, I think those come from a relatively few
loud-mouthed individuals without self-control nor the where-with-all to
make the purchase. As Earle pointed out, 'sour grapes'.

As far as older technology, I'd love to have another CJ. In fact, I'd
love to have a Jay Leno sized warehouse full of them. Along with old
FJ40s, early Broncos, Mustangs, Porsches, etc. etc. Appreciating the old
does not give me blinders to the fact that the Rubicon is the best
out-of-the-box Jeep ever produced. Period.


Dave Milne wrote:

> I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
> been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to the
> TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
> some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile, back at
> the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44 front
> axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things" rule
> that is biting?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
> : Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with 37's
> : or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
> :
> : You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
> : understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the
> next
> : Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell
> did
> : THAT happen?
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Dave, I DID earn my Rubi. Every last cent I spend on it too. As far as
the anti-Rubicon sentiments, I think those come from a relatively few
loud-mouthed individuals without self-control nor the where-with-all to
make the purchase. As Earle pointed out, 'sour grapes'.

As far as older technology, I'd love to have another CJ. In fact, I'd
love to have a Jay Leno sized warehouse full of them. Along with old
FJ40s, early Broncos, Mustangs, Porsches, etc. etc. Appreciating the old
does not give me blinders to the fact that the Rubicon is the best
out-of-the-box Jeep ever produced. Period.


Dave Milne wrote:

> I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
> been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to the
> TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
> some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile, back at
> the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44 front
> axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things" rule
> that is biting?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
> : Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with 37's
> : or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
> :
> : You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
> : understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely the
> next
> : Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the Hell
> did
> : THAT happen?
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

In article <AdB1b.230601$o%2.105732@sccrnsc02>, "Tyler Dirden"
<na@spam.smeat.net> writes:

>Screw Cappa and his magazine. He's got a bug up his rear because of some
>argument with a Rubi owner (who probably was a jackass) on Jeeps unlimited
>and now he's goin off on everyone in his widely distributed soapbox. Poor
>discussion if you ask me... He's going to loose a lot of subscribers to his
>little jeep----- rag.

I got the impression that article was one of those tongue-in-cheek things, and
they included the Rubicon to get a rise out of people. Though I wouldn't own a
Surrey, and may not go out and buy most of what's on that list, I sure wouldn't
mind owning a CJ 3B or an FC truck.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

 

In article <AdB1b.230601$o%2.105732@sccrnsc02>, "Tyler Dirden"
<na@spam.smeat.net> writes:

>Screw Cappa and his magazine. He's got a bug up his rear because of some
>argument with a Rubi owner (who probably was a jackass) on Jeeps unlimited
>and now he's goin off on everyone in his widely distributed soapbox. Poor
>discussion if you ask me... He's going to loose a lot of subscribers to his
>little jeep----- rag.

I got the impression that article was one of those tongue-in-cheek things, and
they included the Rubicon to get a rise out of people. Though I wouldn't own a
Surrey, and may not go out and buy most of what's on that list, I sure wouldn't
mind owning a CJ 3B or an FC truck.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

 

I'm sure you did, no offense intended.
I'd love a CJ and a Rubicon too. As a CJ is a fairly scarce and rusty
proposition here sadly, I'll just have to hope the Rubicon makes it over..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ID32b.1745$Ye2.352069787@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
: Dave, I DID earn my Rubi. Every last cent I spend on it too. As far as
: the anti-Rubicon sentiments, I think those come from a relatively few
: loud-mouthed individuals without self-control nor the where-with-all to
: make the purchase. As Earle pointed out, 'sour grapes'.
:
: As far as older technology, I'd love to have another CJ. In fact, I'd
: love to have a Jay Leno sized warehouse full of them. Along with old
: FJ40s, early Broncos, Mustangs, Porsches, etc. etc. Appreciating the old
: does not give me blinders to the fact that the Rubicon is the best
: out-of-the-box Jeep ever produced. Period.
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
:
: > I really don't understand the anti-Rubicon sentiments. The newsgroup has
: > been collectively bitching about improvements that should been made to
the
: > TJ, and when DC does do something about it, slag the vehicle off because
: > some ******** buy it and even dare to go offroad in it !! Meanwhile,
back at
: > the ranch, we are saving up to buy the transfer case, lockers and D44
front
: > axle. Is there some sort of unwritten "you have to earn these things"
rule
: > that is biting?
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > news:vkg5up9p9iqaf5@corp.supernews.com...
: > : Most veteran Jeepers I know are running custom coil over 4 links with
37's
: > : or 38's. Not sure they did that 25 years ago, hmmmm......
: > :
: > : You are absolutely right, the Rubicon shows that SOME people at DC
: > : understand what the whole thing is all about. However, it's likely
the
: > next
: > : Grand C. will be independent front and the Liberty, well....how the
Hell
: > did
: > : THAT happen?
: >
: >
:
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