Sorry, I've been a contributor to this and several other forums for years.

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I, on the other hand, am not convinced he IS a newbie. I've seen the
> diatribe, thought process (or lack thereof) and writing style. A troll
> is a troll is a troll, no matter what alias is used. Give him all the
> chances you want. He has graduated into my killfile.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:8CB1b.256$aj.152747171@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Of course he's trolling. No one is that obtuse by accident.
> >
> >
> > being a newbie to the group (at least, ive never seen him before) i
figured
> > he might just be trying to fit in with what he thought was the feeling
of
> > the group. im waiting until i see a little more (hopefully a direct
> > response to my questions) before i form any impressions. in the past
some
> > of my statements concerning the liberty have been taken the wrong way
and
> > maybe i seemed elitist. although i clarified my "problem" was not with
the
> > liberty itself, sometimes it just didnt come out right. maybe thats
what
> > happened here, maybe not. i hate to dismiss anyone as a troll, and only
do
> > when its blatently obvious.
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

You have people from Silverton all wrong George. You and your "rich sissy"
buddies from Aspen, Telluride, Texas, California or wherever can buy all the
land and homes up here you want, but you're going to pay through the nose
for it now. If enough of you move up here I'll even sell my place to one of
you and move to Craig, Nebraska, or maybe Portugal.

Earle

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkdqhj3trcjeb4@corp.supernews.com...
> If Earle lives in Silverton he does not live in an upscale neighborhood
> (yet), but he certainly lives in God's country. Hummer H2's are rarely
seen
> there, the roads are steep & narrow, with dirt & rock. (Wouldn't want to
> mess up that paint.) Plus it's a long way down if you FU and go off the
> edge.
>
> The rich have yet to decide that Silverton is a fashionable place to be.
> When they do they will designate it the next jewel of a mountain town to
be
> ruined like Aspen & Telluride. However, not to worry, the Silverton
natives
> are tough enough to handle matters themselves. When the first batch of
rich
> sissies arrives from California to buy up the town's treasures the
> Silvertonians will amass on Green St with torches blazing, like the
> villagers in a Frankenstein movie, and will chase the bastards out of
town,
> over Ophir Pass and all the way to Telluride where they belong.
>
> There the dispossessed rich will gather to share the experience of their
> harrowing escape from the Silverton ruffians, and perhaps they'll write it
> all down for publication in a trendy Californian magazine. Then they'll
sip
> well respected Cabernets at only the most appropriate of places in
> Telluride. Meanwhile, the Silvertonians will have another beer at the
Miners
> Tavern, and that's as it should be.
>
>

 

You have people from Silverton all wrong George. You and your "rich sissy"
buddies from Aspen, Telluride, Texas, California or wherever can buy all the
land and homes up here you want, but you're going to pay through the nose
for it now. If enough of you move up here I'll even sell my place to one of
you and move to Craig, Nebraska, or maybe Portugal.

Earle

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkdqhj3trcjeb4@corp.supernews.com...
> If Earle lives in Silverton he does not live in an upscale neighborhood
> (yet), but he certainly lives in God's country. Hummer H2's are rarely
seen
> there, the roads are steep & narrow, with dirt & rock. (Wouldn't want to
> mess up that paint.) Plus it's a long way down if you FU and go off the
> edge.
>
> The rich have yet to decide that Silverton is a fashionable place to be.
> When they do they will designate it the next jewel of a mountain town to
be
> ruined like Aspen & Telluride. However, not to worry, the Silverton
natives
> are tough enough to handle matters themselves. When the first batch of
rich
> sissies arrives from California to buy up the town's treasures the
> Silvertonians will amass on Green St with torches blazing, like the
> villagers in a Frankenstein movie, and will chase the bastards out of
town,
> over Ophir Pass and all the way to Telluride where they belong.
>
> There the dispossessed rich will gather to share the experience of their
> harrowing escape from the Silverton ruffians, and perhaps they'll write it
> all down for publication in a trendy Californian magazine. Then they'll
sip
> well respected Cabernets at only the most appropriate of places in
> Telluride. Meanwhile, the Silvertonians will have another beer at the
Miners
> Tavern, and that's as it should be.
>
>

 

This doesn't mean a hell of a lot to me. There are people who post all the
time who are idiots, and some people who hardly ever post but when they
finally have something to say it is worth reading. You haven't made it into
either category yet, but keep trying. ;o)

Earle

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkenvfaueqlg6f@corp.supernews.com...
> Sorry, I've been a contributor to this and several other forums for years.
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:K1J1b.277$p%.187694187@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > I, on the other hand, am not convinced he IS a newbie. I've seen the
> > diatribe, thought process (or lack thereof) and writing style. A troll
> > is a troll is a troll, no matter what alias is used. Give him all the
> > chances you want. He has graduated into my killfile.
> >
> > Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:8CB1b.256$aj.152747171@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > >
> > >>Of course he's trolling. No one is that obtuse by accident.
> > >
> > >
> > > being a newbie to the group (at least, ive never seen him before) i
> figured
> > > he might just be trying to fit in with what he thought was the feeling
> of
> > > the group. im waiting until i see a little more (hopefully a direct
> > > response to my questions) before i form any impressions. in the past
> some
> > > of my statements concerning the liberty have been taken the wrong way
> and
> > > maybe i seemed elitist. although i clarified my "problem" was not
with
> the
> > > liberty itself, sometimes it just didnt come out right. maybe thats
> what
> > > happened here, maybe not. i hate to dismiss anyone as a troll, and
only
> do
> > > when its blatently obvious.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

 

This doesn't mean a hell of a lot to me. There are people who post all the
time who are idiots, and some people who hardly ever post but when they
finally have something to say it is worth reading. You haven't made it into
either category yet, but keep trying. ;o)

Earle

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkenvfaueqlg6f@corp.supernews.com...
> Sorry, I've been a contributor to this and several other forums for years.
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:K1J1b.277$p%.187694187@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > I, on the other hand, am not convinced he IS a newbie. I've seen the
> > diatribe, thought process (or lack thereof) and writing style. A troll
> > is a troll is a troll, no matter what alias is used. Give him all the
> > chances you want. He has graduated into my killfile.
> >
> > Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> >
> > > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:8CB1b.256$aj.152747171@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> > >
> > >>Of course he's trolling. No one is that obtuse by accident.
> > >
> > >
> > > being a newbie to the group (at least, ive never seen him before) i
> figured
> > > he might just be trying to fit in with what he thought was the feeling
> of
> > > the group. im waiting until i see a little more (hopefully a direct
> > > response to my questions) before i form any impressions. in the past
> some
> > > of my statements concerning the liberty have been taken the wrong way
> and
> > > maybe i seemed elitist. although i clarified my "problem" was not
with
> the
> > > liberty itself, sometimes it just didnt come out right. maybe thats
> what
> > > happened here, maybe not. i hate to dismiss anyone as a troll, and
only
> do
> > > when its blatently obvious.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> >
>
>

 

I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you don't
have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and went
with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer, and the
other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing the
entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a scratch.

So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take away
from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better equipped
than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some stupid
movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if it had
a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool Margarita
while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot
day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain my
dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.




"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
news:NlA1b.8730$r15.597179@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkdgi0pkuncte3@corp.supernews.com...
> > Frankly, there's getting to be a school of thought among veteran Jeepers
> > that the Rubicon simply SUCKS
>
> elitist --------.
>
> > mostly due to its owners.
>
> how does the owner affect the merit of the vehicle?
>
> > This months JP mag lists them among the 10 Jeeps they
> > wouldn't own.
>
> i hope you dont consider jp magazine "lower the wj for better highway
> performance"...."the liberty lives up to the jeep name" to be an
> authoritative source of information concerning jeeps?!?!?!?
>
> > Not that it's a bad rig out of the box, mind you
>
> "not bad"? what do you call a stock SE? a stock sport? a stock sahara?
>
> assuming equal drivers, stock for stock, what jeep is more capable? what
> stock jeep has ever even been EQUALLY capable? im not at all trying to
> sound elitist.....to the contrary i despise elitist crap like i sense from
> your post. jeep and let jeep.
>
> > but Jeep FU'd the entire
> > deal by pricing it so high that posers bought most of them
>
> "real" off roaders cant afford a $30,000 vehicle?
>
> > loaded to the max with stupid
> > options like power mirrors, A/C, etc.
>
> a/c is a "stupid" option?
>
> > That's right, $30k, and now I suppose you're going to take it out on the
> > rocks? RIGHT!!!!!
>
> ok, we agree there. there are places ive avoided simply because im paying
> $500 a month for my rubi. that said, i avoided those same places in my
'00
> sahara. i see videos of people rolling new tjs at moab and instead of
> thinking "cool!" i cant help but think "no wonder my goddamn jeep
insurance
> is so high!"
>
> i dont think i know you, and i really hope that i have misread your
> intentions. im just goddamn tired of hearing non-rubicon owners treating
me
> like i dont have the merit badge because i didnt build my own jeep
(although
> i built my other one).
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>

 

I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you don't
have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and went
with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer, and the
other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing the
entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a scratch.

So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take away
from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better equipped
than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some stupid
movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if it had
a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool Margarita
while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot
day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain my
dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.




"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
news:NlA1b.8730$r15.597179@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:vkdgi0pkuncte3@corp.supernews.com...
> > Frankly, there's getting to be a school of thought among veteran Jeepers
> > that the Rubicon simply SUCKS
>
> elitist --------.
>
> > mostly due to its owners.
>
> how does the owner affect the merit of the vehicle?
>
> > This months JP mag lists them among the 10 Jeeps they
> > wouldn't own.
>
> i hope you dont consider jp magazine "lower the wj for better highway
> performance"...."the liberty lives up to the jeep name" to be an
> authoritative source of information concerning jeeps?!?!?!?
>
> > Not that it's a bad rig out of the box, mind you
>
> "not bad"? what do you call a stock SE? a stock sport? a stock sahara?
>
> assuming equal drivers, stock for stock, what jeep is more capable? what
> stock jeep has ever even been EQUALLY capable? im not at all trying to
> sound elitist.....to the contrary i despise elitist crap like i sense from
> your post. jeep and let jeep.
>
> > but Jeep FU'd the entire
> > deal by pricing it so high that posers bought most of them
>
> "real" off roaders cant afford a $30,000 vehicle?
>
> > loaded to the max with stupid
> > options like power mirrors, A/C, etc.
>
> a/c is a "stupid" option?
>
> > That's right, $30k, and now I suppose you're going to take it out on the
> > rocks? RIGHT!!!!!
>
> ok, we agree there. there are places ive avoided simply because im paying
> $500 a month for my rubi. that said, i avoided those same places in my
'00
> sahara. i see videos of people rolling new tjs at moab and instead of
> thinking "cool!" i cant help but think "no wonder my goddamn jeep
insurance
> is so high!"
>
> i dont think i know you, and i really hope that i have misread your
> intentions. im just goddamn tired of hearing non-rubicon owners treating
me
> like i dont have the merit badge because i didnt build my own jeep
(although
> i built my other one).
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>

 

*Heated* power mirrors.

Earle

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Well said, RR!
>
> Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)
>
> Red Racer wrote:
>
> > I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you
don't
> > have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and went
> > with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer, and
the
> > other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing
the
> > entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a
scratch.
> >
> > So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take away
> > from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better equipped
> > than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some
stupid
> > movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if it
had
> > a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool Margarita
> > while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot
> > day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain my
> > dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

*Heated* power mirrors.

Earle

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:yyL1b.298$O15.204287134@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Well said, RR!
>
> Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)
>
> Red Racer wrote:
>
> > I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you
don't
> > have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and went
> > with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer, and
the
> > other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing
the
> > entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a
scratch.
> >
> > So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take away
> > from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better equipped
> > than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some
stupid
> > movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if it
had
> > a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool Margarita
> > while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot
> > day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain my
> > dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

Well said, RR!

Wonder when we're gonna be able to get power mirrors on the Rubi... :)

Red Racer wrote:

> I think all of you who bash the Jeep Rubicon are just jealous that you don't
> have one. I just finished the Jeepers Jamboree a few weeks ago, and went
> with two of them. One was bone stock with 400 miles on the odometer, and the
> other was lifted with 35s. The stock one had no problems at all doing the
> entire Rubicon trail start to finish, and came out of it without a scratch.
>
> So what if some people are dicks that drive them. That doesn't take away
> from the fact that this Jeep is an awfully good one, and better equipped
> than any other Jeep ever made. Concentrate on the vehicle, not some stupid
> movie star promo, and so what if they have air conditioning. Heck, if it had
> a in cab blender option I'd get that too. Nothing like a cool Margarita
> while driving over rocks,with the cab cooled down to 70 degrees on a hot
> day. I can still bolt a hi lift and a shovel on the back to maintain my
> dirty sweaty rough and tumble off roader image if I want.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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