Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > No it wouldn't !! The snatchblock simply routes the pulley round 90 degrees.
> > It is a 1 for 1 pull.
>
> So let me see if I get this straight. Each ****** block doubles the
> pulling strength of the winch. So all I need to do then is buy a much
> longer cable. If I could get, say, 200' of cable, and buy 4 ******
> blocks, then I could run the cable around four different trees and
> back to the jeep. This would make for a weird pentagon shaped cable
> layout, but would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
> strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)
>
> I would think this should be enough to pull any rig out, however
> heavy or deeply sunk in the mud it is. Right?


Yes, but you just use one tree and get a block and tackle setup.

Your way would only get you 2:1.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
> strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)

in theory thats great! in reality, your cable would snap.

im getting ready to put a video online thats going to shake up a lot of
folks. the warn 9500i cable snaps at around 8200 pounds of force. the
ramsey 9500 cable snaps at 10000 pounds of force. the warn also runs on for
3 seconds after the button is released. video coming soon.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309091315.e399b49@posting.google.co m...
> would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
> strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)

in theory thats great! in reality, your cable would snap.

im getting ready to put a video online thats going to shake up a lot of
folks. the warn 9500i cable snaps at around 8200 pounds of force. the
ramsey 9500 cable snaps at 10000 pounds of force. the warn also runs on for
3 seconds after the button is released. video coming soon.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Inline.
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F5E4A4E.E03A6DD9@sympatico.ca...
> : You can test the angles and pull with a piece of string yourself.
> :
> : Put a loop in one end of the string and hook it on your left hand or
> : finger. Then run it down under your foot and back to your right hand.
>
> : Now when you pull with your right hand and keep the left hand anchor
> : steady, you foot will move up towards you. If you move your right hand
> : one foot up, your foot will only move 6".
>
> Absolutely.
>
> : Then hook the end loop on your toe and run the string around your left
> : hand to your right.
> : Then when you pull 1', your foot moves 1'.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> This is the model I was trying to explain, where Ramsey's video claimed it
> doubled and I said it didn't
> (and they now agree it doesn't), and you agree too now, and do I need a beer
> or what :-)

LOL!

Me too!

I just got back from getting a root canal. It's been a long painful
couple days with no sleep for 36 hours...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Inline.
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F5E4A4E.E03A6DD9@sympatico.ca...
> : You can test the angles and pull with a piece of string yourself.
> :
> : Put a loop in one end of the string and hook it on your left hand or
> : finger. Then run it down under your foot and back to your right hand.
>
> : Now when you pull with your right hand and keep the left hand anchor
> : steady, you foot will move up towards you. If you move your right hand
> : one foot up, your foot will only move 6".
>
> Absolutely.
>
> : Then hook the end loop on your toe and run the string around your left
> : hand to your right.
> : Then when you pull 1', your foot moves 1'.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> This is the model I was trying to explain, where Ramsey's video claimed it
> doubled and I said it didn't
> (and they now agree it doesn't), and you agree too now, and do I need a beer
> or what :-)

LOL!

Me too!

I just got back from getting a root canal. It's been a long painful
couple days with no sleep for 36 hours...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309091315.e399b49@posting.google.co m...
>> would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
>> strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)
>
> in theory thats great! in reality, your cable would snap.

http://www.webskiff.com/6X36FC.html

Of course to get 144,000 lbs your spool would have
to be a bit larger than stock. :)

--
DougW

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309091315.e399b49@posting.google.co m...
>> would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
>> strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)
>
> in theory thats great! in reality, your cable would snap.

http://www.webskiff.com/6X36FC.html

Of course to get 144,000 lbs your spool would have
to be a bit larger than stock. :)

--
DougW

 

that's what an independent survey commissioned by milemarker said;
unfortunately the link is no longer active.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hfs7b.16356$ip5.1165761@twister.southeast.rr. com...
: "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
: news:b102b6e4.0309091315.e399b49@posting.google.co m...
: > would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
: > strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)
:
: in theory thats great! in reality, your cable would snap.
:
: im getting ready to put a video online thats going to shake up a lot of
: folks. the warn 9500i cable snaps at around 8200 pounds of force. the
: ramsey 9500 cable snaps at 10000 pounds of force. the warn also runs on
for
: 3 seconds after the button is released. video coming soon.
:
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
:

 

that's what an independent survey commissioned by milemarker said;
unfortunately the link is no longer active.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hfs7b.16356$ip5.1165761@twister.southeast.rr. com...
: "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
: news:b102b6e4.0309091315.e399b49@posting.google.co m...
: > would also give me a total of 144,000 lbs of winching
: > strength. (4500lbs times 2 to the power of 5)
:
: in theory thats great! in reality, your cable would snap.
:
: im getting ready to put a video online thats going to shake up a lot of
: folks. the warn 9500i cable snaps at around 8200 pounds of force. the
: ramsey 9500 cable snaps at 10000 pounds of force. the warn also runs on
for
: 3 seconds after the button is released. video coming soon.
:
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
:

 

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > Tree ----------- Stuck vehicle + s/block
> > |
> > |
> > Winching Vehicle
> >
>
> Couldn't you get more pulling strength by putting the stuck vehicle
> with the winch at the end of the cable and the tree at the other, and
> then running the cable from the jeep to the tree several times? For
> each loop you make, you're going to halve the speed and double the
> power.

You are the gent with the small winch right?

Then you maybe should look into a block and tackle setup. Something
like a two pulley block for the tree or anchor vehicle and one pulley at
your front will give something like 6:1 (I think, but am too tired to
think much), times the power or more important in your case 6 times less
load on the winch to move whatever you are trying to move.

You would likely want an extension cable and some strong D rings and a
tree saver to hook it up.

Be careful of the pull ratio and the size of your cable, as Nathan
mentioned, cables do break in the 9-10,000 lb range. I don't know what
yours is rated for, but if it was light, I would get heavy cable for the
winch and use the smaller one doubled for the extension.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's