OT BioDiesel
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Re: Very OT BioDiesel
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> > suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> > family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
> Like any other endeavor, terrorism requires money... Without the money
> from oil coming into the country, I seriously doubt that there would
> be much in the way of terrorism being exported... In addition, without
> the need for their oil, we could just let them alone and they could
> ponder the more important things in life... Like whether camels or
> sheep are better ----s... <snicker>
Again, I wish you were right. Arming and deploying a suicide bomber is pretty
cheap - cheap enough that no oil money is really needed. What did 9/11 cost the
Islamic Jihad? A few $1000?
The main threat comes from the religious fanatics not the oil sheiks. The hard
core, like bin Ladin and company, yearn for "the good old days" when Islam
controled all of Africa, part of Europe including Spain, et al. Heartened by
their success against the USSR in Afghanistan their first goal is to
re-establish that Califate, then to conquer the rest of the world. That'd be
bad enough if they were just maniacs like Stalin or Hitler but they are far
worse - they are religious extremists who thought tthe Taliban were too
liberal!!
They do not like the oil barons because they do not willingly give the oil money
to support this radical jihad. Worse yet they allow their women to read. Bush
would like to tie Saddam to bin Ladin to justify his blunder but the fact is
they are bitter enemies like Hitler and Stalin. Bin Ladin had called for
Saddam's murder and the oil sheiks are terrified of them.
Money wise, they are much like our home grown terrorists - the ones who bomb
abortion clinics out of misguided religeous zeal. There's a hard core,
supported financially and morally by a huge less-fanatical group much like the
Methodist and other churchs quietly support U.S. anti-gun cranks like the Brady
Bunch. Look how much Christianity is exported without any oil money. So if we
could somehow magically quit buying middle-eastern oil the jihad would still go
on, just as Christian prothelization goes on. It's very dangerous to think this
enemy are a bunch of stupid ragheads who depend on oil. Some of the criminally
insane are quite intellegent, and therefore twice dangerous. Like child
molesters, there is only one way to deal with them.
Bottom line is we may as well enjoy mid-east oil while we can.
"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> > suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> > family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
> Like any other endeavor, terrorism requires money... Without the money
> from oil coming into the country, I seriously doubt that there would
> be much in the way of terrorism being exported... In addition, without
> the need for their oil, we could just let them alone and they could
> ponder the more important things in life... Like whether camels or
> sheep are better ----s... <snicker>
Again, I wish you were right. Arming and deploying a suicide bomber is pretty
cheap - cheap enough that no oil money is really needed. What did 9/11 cost the
Islamic Jihad? A few $1000?
The main threat comes from the religious fanatics not the oil sheiks. The hard
core, like bin Ladin and company, yearn for "the good old days" when Islam
controled all of Africa, part of Europe including Spain, et al. Heartened by
their success against the USSR in Afghanistan their first goal is to
re-establish that Califate, then to conquer the rest of the world. That'd be
bad enough if they were just maniacs like Stalin or Hitler but they are far
worse - they are religious extremists who thought tthe Taliban were too
liberal!!
They do not like the oil barons because they do not willingly give the oil money
to support this radical jihad. Worse yet they allow their women to read. Bush
would like to tie Saddam to bin Ladin to justify his blunder but the fact is
they are bitter enemies like Hitler and Stalin. Bin Ladin had called for
Saddam's murder and the oil sheiks are terrified of them.
Money wise, they are much like our home grown terrorists - the ones who bomb
abortion clinics out of misguided religeous zeal. There's a hard core,
supported financially and morally by a huge less-fanatical group much like the
Methodist and other churchs quietly support U.S. anti-gun cranks like the Brady
Bunch. Look how much Christianity is exported without any oil money. So if we
could somehow magically quit buying middle-eastern oil the jihad would still go
on, just as Christian prothelization goes on. It's very dangerous to think this
enemy are a bunch of stupid ragheads who depend on oil. Some of the criminally
insane are quite intellegent, and therefore twice dangerous. Like child
molesters, there is only one way to deal with them.
Bottom line is we may as well enjoy mid-east oil while we can.
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Re: Very OT BioDiesel
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> > suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> > family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
> Like any other endeavor, terrorism requires money... Without the money
> from oil coming into the country, I seriously doubt that there would
> be much in the way of terrorism being exported... In addition, without
> the need for their oil, we could just let them alone and they could
> ponder the more important things in life... Like whether camels or
> sheep are better ----s... <snicker>
Again, I wish you were right. Arming and deploying a suicide bomber is pretty
cheap - cheap enough that no oil money is really needed. What did 9/11 cost the
Islamic Jihad? A few $1000?
The main threat comes from the religious fanatics not the oil sheiks. The hard
core, like bin Ladin and company, yearn for "the good old days" when Islam
controled all of Africa, part of Europe including Spain, et al. Heartened by
their success against the USSR in Afghanistan their first goal is to
re-establish that Califate, then to conquer the rest of the world. That'd be
bad enough if they were just maniacs like Stalin or Hitler but they are far
worse - they are religious extremists who thought tthe Taliban were too
liberal!!
They do not like the oil barons because they do not willingly give the oil money
to support this radical jihad. Worse yet they allow their women to read. Bush
would like to tie Saddam to bin Ladin to justify his blunder but the fact is
they are bitter enemies like Hitler and Stalin. Bin Ladin had called for
Saddam's murder and the oil sheiks are terrified of them.
Money wise, they are much like our home grown terrorists - the ones who bomb
abortion clinics out of misguided religeous zeal. There's a hard core,
supported financially and morally by a huge less-fanatical group much like the
Methodist and other churchs quietly support U.S. anti-gun cranks like the Brady
Bunch. Look how much Christianity is exported without any oil money. So if we
could somehow magically quit buying middle-eastern oil the jihad would still go
on, just as Christian prothelization goes on. It's very dangerous to think this
enemy are a bunch of stupid ragheads who depend on oil. Some of the criminally
insane are quite intellegent, and therefore twice dangerous. Like child
molesters, there is only one way to deal with them.
Bottom line is we may as well enjoy mid-east oil while we can.
"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> > suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> > family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
> Like any other endeavor, terrorism requires money... Without the money
> from oil coming into the country, I seriously doubt that there would
> be much in the way of terrorism being exported... In addition, without
> the need for their oil, we could just let them alone and they could
> ponder the more important things in life... Like whether camels or
> sheep are better ----s... <snicker>
Again, I wish you were right. Arming and deploying a suicide bomber is pretty
cheap - cheap enough that no oil money is really needed. What did 9/11 cost the
Islamic Jihad? A few $1000?
The main threat comes from the religious fanatics not the oil sheiks. The hard
core, like bin Ladin and company, yearn for "the good old days" when Islam
controled all of Africa, part of Europe including Spain, et al. Heartened by
their success against the USSR in Afghanistan their first goal is to
re-establish that Califate, then to conquer the rest of the world. That'd be
bad enough if they were just maniacs like Stalin or Hitler but they are far
worse - they are religious extremists who thought tthe Taliban were too
liberal!!
They do not like the oil barons because they do not willingly give the oil money
to support this radical jihad. Worse yet they allow their women to read. Bush
would like to tie Saddam to bin Ladin to justify his blunder but the fact is
they are bitter enemies like Hitler and Stalin. Bin Ladin had called for
Saddam's murder and the oil sheiks are terrified of them.
Money wise, they are much like our home grown terrorists - the ones who bomb
abortion clinics out of misguided religeous zeal. There's a hard core,
supported financially and morally by a huge less-fanatical group much like the
Methodist and other churchs quietly support U.S. anti-gun cranks like the Brady
Bunch. Look how much Christianity is exported without any oil money. So if we
could somehow magically quit buying middle-eastern oil the jihad would still go
on, just as Christian prothelization goes on. It's very dangerous to think this
enemy are a bunch of stupid ragheads who depend on oil. Some of the criminally
insane are quite intellegent, and therefore twice dangerous. Like child
molesters, there is only one way to deal with them.
Bottom line is we may as well enjoy mid-east oil while we can.
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
Radiation...
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
--
jeff
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> the nuclear plant could leak:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't they?
>>;^)
>>
>>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from coal.
>>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide open
>>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky Mountain
>>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
>>
>>Earle
Radiation...
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
--
jeff
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> the nuclear plant could leak:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't they?
>>;^)
>>
>>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from coal.
>>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide open
>>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky Mountain
>>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
>>
>>Earle
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
Radiation...
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
--
jeff
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> the nuclear plant could leak:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't they?
>>;^)
>>
>>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from coal.
>>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide open
>>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky Mountain
>>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
>>
>>Earle
Radiation...
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
--
jeff
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> the nuclear plant could leak:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't they?
>>;^)
>>
>>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from coal.
>>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide open
>>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky Mountain
>>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
>>
>>Earle
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
Radiation...
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
--
jeff
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> the nuclear plant could leak:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't they?
>>;^)
>>
>>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from coal.
>>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide open
>>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky Mountain
>>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
>>
>>Earle
Radiation...
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
--
jeff
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> the nuclear plant could leak:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't they?
>>;^)
>>
>>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from coal.
>>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide open
>>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky Mountain
>>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
>>
>>Earle
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I think he is talking about radon. Radon is known to come out of the ground
here. It makes sense that it would be in the coal too. It can be a problem
if you decide to convert your basement into finished living quarters.
Earle
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:8kG8g.7971$0d3.7624@trnddc08...
> Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
> Radiation...
>
> http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
> Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
> emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> > the nuclear plant could leak:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't
they?
> >>;^)
> >>
> >>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from
coal.
> >>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide
open
> >>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky
Mountain
> >>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
> >>
> >>Earle
here. It makes sense that it would be in the coal too. It can be a problem
if you decide to convert your basement into finished living quarters.
Earle
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:8kG8g.7971$0d3.7624@trnddc08...
> Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
> Radiation...
>
> http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
> Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
> emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> > the nuclear plant could leak:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't
they?
> >>;^)
> >>
> >>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from
coal.
> >>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide
open
> >>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky
Mountain
> >>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
> >>
> >>Earle
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I think he is talking about radon. Radon is known to come out of the ground
here. It makes sense that it would be in the coal too. It can be a problem
if you decide to convert your basement into finished living quarters.
Earle
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:8kG8g.7971$0d3.7624@trnddc08...
> Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
> Radiation...
>
> http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
> Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
> emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> > the nuclear plant could leak:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't
they?
> >>;^)
> >>
> >>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from
coal.
> >>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide
open
> >>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky
Mountain
> >>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
> >>
> >>Earle
here. It makes sense that it would be in the coal too. It can be a problem
if you decide to convert your basement into finished living quarters.
Earle
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:8kG8g.7971$0d3.7624@trnddc08...
> Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
> Radiation...
>
> http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
> Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
> emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> > the nuclear plant could leak:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't
they?
> >>;^)
> >>
> >>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from
coal.
> >>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide
open
> >>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky
Mountain
> >>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
> >>
> >>Earle
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I think he is talking about radon. Radon is known to come out of the ground
here. It makes sense that it would be in the coal too. It can be a problem
if you decide to convert your basement into finished living quarters.
Earle
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:8kG8g.7971$0d3.7624@trnddc08...
> Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
> Radiation...
>
> http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
> Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
> emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> > the nuclear plant could leak:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't
they?
> >>;^)
> >>
> >>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from
coal.
> >>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide
open
> >>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky
Mountain
> >>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
> >>
> >>Earle
here. It makes sense that it would be in the coal too. It can be a problem
if you decide to convert your basement into finished living quarters.
Earle
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:8kG8g.7971$0d3.7624@trnddc08...
> Tell the truth Bill, You make this ---- up don't you. LMAO: Argon
> Radiation...
>
> http://environmentalchemistry.com/yo....html#Nuclides
> Only a few relatively short lived synthetic nuclides, and mostly beta
> emitters at that. No gamma emitters.
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > And coal releases argon radiation, far more dangerous than anything
> > the nuclear plant could leak:
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoglund/...ion_Facts.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, but everyone has their own little soap box to stand on, don't
they?
> >>;^)
> >>
> >>Damn right I'm being sarcastic. Electricity in Colorado is made from
coal.
> >>You want to drive by one of the power plants, when it is running wide
open
> >>throttle to generate clean power for the sunny and unpolluted Rocky
Mountain
> >>states. We had those commercials in New England too, set to music.
> >>
> >>Earle
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Everybody turns down the damper so that the flame will last all night, not
just yuppies. And not everyone can get decent fuel. Out here, people call
aspen "hardwood" and mostly burn fir. There is no substitute for annual
inspection of any wood burning flue. Oak and black locust, free for the
taking at the orchard I used to work for, I miss that.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:3f7ad$4462a288$48311525$2958@FUSE.NET...
> Mainly yuppies who don't know how to burn cleanly or properly select
> seasoned wood.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> > fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department get
a
> > chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones happened
> > all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about an inch of
> > gunk on the inside of the chimney.
> >
> > billy ray proclaimed:
> >
> >> That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.
> >>
> >> Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>
> >>>XS11E proclaimed:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
> >>>>news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
> >>>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
> >>>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
> >>>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
> >>>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
> >>>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
> >>>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
> >>>>>have made the thing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a
> >>>>commercial fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to
> >>>>perfection and heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the
> >>>>kitchen heated the other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did
> >>>>have a fairly elaborate chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter
with
> >>>less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of
sulfur
> >>>in it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
just yuppies. And not everyone can get decent fuel. Out here, people call
aspen "hardwood" and mostly burn fir. There is no substitute for annual
inspection of any wood burning flue. Oak and black locust, free for the
taking at the orchard I used to work for, I miss that.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:3f7ad$4462a288$48311525$2958@FUSE.NET...
> Mainly yuppies who don't know how to burn cleanly or properly select
> seasoned wood.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> > fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department get
a
> > chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones happened
> > all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about an inch of
> > gunk on the inside of the chimney.
> >
> > billy ray proclaimed:
> >
> >> That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.
> >>
> >> Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>
> >>>XS11E proclaimed:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
> >>>>news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
> >>>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
> >>>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
> >>>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
> >>>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
> >>>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
> >>>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
> >>>>>have made the thing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a
> >>>>commercial fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to
> >>>>perfection and heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the
> >>>>kitchen heated the other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did
> >>>>have a fairly elaborate chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter
with
> >>>less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of
sulfur
> >>>in it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
Guest
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Everybody turns down the damper so that the flame will last all night, not
just yuppies. And not everyone can get decent fuel. Out here, people call
aspen "hardwood" and mostly burn fir. There is no substitute for annual
inspection of any wood burning flue. Oak and black locust, free for the
taking at the orchard I used to work for, I miss that.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:3f7ad$4462a288$48311525$2958@FUSE.NET...
> Mainly yuppies who don't know how to burn cleanly or properly select
> seasoned wood.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> > fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department get
a
> > chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones happened
> > all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about an inch of
> > gunk on the inside of the chimney.
> >
> > billy ray proclaimed:
> >
> >> That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.
> >>
> >> Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>
> >>>XS11E proclaimed:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
> >>>>news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
> >>>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
> >>>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
> >>>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
> >>>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
> >>>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
> >>>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
> >>>>>have made the thing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a
> >>>>commercial fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to
> >>>>perfection and heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the
> >>>>kitchen heated the other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did
> >>>>have a fairly elaborate chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter
with
> >>>less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of
sulfur
> >>>in it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
just yuppies. And not everyone can get decent fuel. Out here, people call
aspen "hardwood" and mostly burn fir. There is no substitute for annual
inspection of any wood burning flue. Oak and black locust, free for the
taking at the orchard I used to work for, I miss that.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:3f7ad$4462a288$48311525$2958@FUSE.NET...
> Mainly yuppies who don't know how to burn cleanly or properly select
> seasoned wood.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
> > fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department get
a
> > chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones happened
> > all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about an inch of
> > gunk on the inside of the chimney.
> >
> > billy ray proclaimed:
> >
> >> That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.
> >>
> >> Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>
> >>>XS11E proclaimed:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
> >>>>news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
> >>>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
> >>>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
> >>>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
> >>>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
> >>>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
> >>>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
> >>>>>have made the thing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a
> >>>>commercial fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to
> >>>>perfection and heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the
> >>>>kitchen heated the other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did
> >>>>have a fairly elaborate chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter
with
> >>>less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of
sulfur
> >>>in it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
