Vito wrote:
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>
>>Everybody turns down the damper so that the flame will last all night, not
>>just yuppies. And not everyone can get decent fuel. Out here, people call
>>aspen "hardwood" and mostly burn fir. There is no substitute for annual
>>inspection of any wood burning flue. Oak and black locust, free for the
>>taking at the orchard I used to work for, I miss that.
>>
>
> Second that. Many folks too poor to call yuppies heat with wood and even though
> Oak and other hardwoods are plentiful thanks to the hurricanes we loose a couple
> homes a year to chimney fires. Clean and inspect at least annually.
>
>
Spring time is the worst for chimney fires. Warm enough that you don't
need much of a fire so you never get a good bank of coals, and have to
damp it back.

--
jeff

 

Vito wrote:
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>
>>Everybody turns down the damper so that the flame will last all night, not
>>just yuppies. And not everyone can get decent fuel. Out here, people call
>>aspen "hardwood" and mostly burn fir. There is no substitute for annual
>>inspection of any wood burning flue. Oak and black locust, free for the
>>taking at the orchard I used to work for, I miss that.
>>
>
> Second that. Many folks too poor to call yuppies heat with wood and even though
> Oak and other hardwoods are plentiful thanks to the hurricanes we loose a couple
> homes a year to chimney fires. Clean and inspect at least annually.
>
>
Spring time is the worst for chimney fires. Warm enough that you don't
need much of a fire so you never get a good bank of coals, and have to
damp it back.

--
jeff

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:B3z8g.32$YY4.19364@news.uswest.net...
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9sd562lro9d906r3s18hvkdvcbcm9is1ei@4ax.com...
> > I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
> > at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
> > seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
> > Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
> > houses weren't identical...
>
> doesnt matter, ground source is the most efficient way to heat and cool
> your home. its free heat/cooling and will work well in all but the
> harshest of climates. its very common in rural montana (with electric
> suppliment for the coldest days) where getting propane delivered is
> expensive.
>
This stuff isn't quite free, unless the electricity for the pump and/or
compressor is also free. I must admit that I am intrigued that it can be
made to work in rural Montana. I don't think it would work where I live
though. We are too high, the town sits on a gravel bank, and no one has
located geothermal sources in the entire county. Although grant parasites
have siphoned off some government funds looking.

Earle

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:B3z8g.32$YY4.19364@news.uswest.net...
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9sd562lro9d906r3s18hvkdvcbcm9is1ei@4ax.com...
> > I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
> > at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
> > seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
> > Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
> > houses weren't identical...
>
> doesnt matter, ground source is the most efficient way to heat and cool
> your home. its free heat/cooling and will work well in all but the
> harshest of climates. its very common in rural montana (with electric
> suppliment for the coldest days) where getting propane delivered is
> expensive.
>
This stuff isn't quite free, unless the electricity for the pump and/or
compressor is also free. I must admit that I am intrigued that it can be
made to work in rural Montana. I don't think it would work where I live
though. We are too high, the town sits on a gravel bank, and no one has
located geothermal sources in the entire county. Although grant parasites
have siphoned off some government funds looking.

Earle

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:B3z8g.32$YY4.19364@news.uswest.net...
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9sd562lro9d906r3s18hvkdvcbcm9is1ei@4ax.com...
> > I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
> > at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
> > seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
> > Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
> > houses weren't identical...
>
> doesnt matter, ground source is the most efficient way to heat and cool
> your home. its free heat/cooling and will work well in all but the
> harshest of climates. its very common in rural montana (with electric
> suppliment for the coldest days) where getting propane delivered is
> expensive.
>
This stuff isn't quite free, unless the electricity for the pump and/or
compressor is also free. I must admit that I am intrigued that it can be
made to work in rural Montana. I don't think it would work where I live
though. We are too high, the town sits on a gravel bank, and no one has
located geothermal sources in the entire county. Although grant parasites
have siphoned off some government funds looking.

Earle

 

jeff proclaimed:

> Yep. Thank god it wasn't orgone radiation.
> BTW, I worked on a 10M test bench for setting the wigglers for them
> (Argonne). That was one massive granite beam, 1' wide, 3.5' high and
> over 30' long. Bet it emitted some radon.

Radon largely comes from [deposits of the] heavier radioactive metals,
as it really does have a half live of only a few days so unless you have
a continual source of it, you don't have radon for long. One problem is
that it can come from rather deep down and seep up thru rock cracks into
basements, old mines, etc. Folks used to think the old Fowler Mine near
Moab was haunted because it had enough radioactivity to cause burns on
folks who tried to work it.

 

jeff proclaimed:

> Yep. Thank god it wasn't orgone radiation.
> BTW, I worked on a 10M test bench for setting the wigglers for them
> (Argonne). That was one massive granite beam, 1' wide, 3.5' high and
> over 30' long. Bet it emitted some radon.

Radon largely comes from [deposits of the] heavier radioactive metals,
as it really does have a half live of only a few days so unless you have
a continual source of it, you don't have radon for long. One problem is
that it can come from rather deep down and seep up thru rock cracks into
basements, old mines, etc. Folks used to think the old Fowler Mine near
Moab was haunted because it had enough radioactivity to cause burns on
folks who tried to work it.

 

jeff proclaimed:

> Yep. Thank god it wasn't orgone radiation.
> BTW, I worked on a 10M test bench for setting the wigglers for them
> (Argonne). That was one massive granite beam, 1' wide, 3.5' high and
> over 30' long. Bet it emitted some radon.

Radon largely comes from [deposits of the] heavier radioactive metals,
as it really does have a half live of only a few days so unless you have
a continual source of it, you don't have radon for long. One problem is
that it can come from rather deep down and seep up thru rock cracks into
basements, old mines, etc. Folks used to think the old Fowler Mine near
Moab was haunted because it had enough radioactivity to cause burns on
folks who tried to work it.

 

Grumman-581 proclaimed:

> On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:33:15 GMT, "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote:
>
>>You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
>>combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
>>(7000" above sea level).
>
>
> I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
> at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
> seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
> Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
> houses weren't identical...

Swamp coolers work pretty nicely in high desert where the normal
humidity is under 10% most of the time. They help keep the dry air from
turning skin into leather. Best to have a small regular unit for the 2
or 3 rare days where a rain does not cool down the area enough tho.

 

Grumman-581 proclaimed:

> On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:33:15 GMT, "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote:
>
>>You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13
>>combo A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains
>>(7000" above sea level).
>
>
> I had a house with 2 geothermal heat pumps previously... Worked great
> at basically sea level and along the Gulf Coast... Electrical costs
> seemed quite a bit less than other houses that I've owned...
> Unfortunately, it's an apples to oranges type of comparison since the
> houses weren't identical...

Swamp coolers work pretty nicely in high desert where the normal
humidity is under 10% most of the time. They help keep the dry air from
turning skin into leather. Best to have a small regular unit for the 2
or 3 rare days where a rain does not cool down the area enough tho.