Re: "Original Miles"
Um...that maybe they _were_ available...?
Mike Romain wrote: > Neat, but what does that have to do with anything? > > Lots of Jeeps 'other' than 86 had 4 speeds, some even had 3 speeds.... > > Mike > > twaldron wrote: > >>Really? My '85 did. >> >>Mike Romain wrote: >> >> >>>Neither, both jerks selling are full of crap. >>> >>>The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86. >>> >>>;-) >>> >>>Mike >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>> >>>twaldron wrote: >>> >>> >>>>CRWLR wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy. com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>CRWLR wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I >>>>>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one >>>>> >>>>>should >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old. >>>>>> >>>>>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage, >>>>>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage. >>>>>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage >>>>>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If >>>>>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure >>>>>nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and >>>>>well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5 >>>>>digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had >>>>>spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to >>>>>throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a >>>>>unit that is that old. >>>>> >>>>>High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to >>>>>get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery. >>>>>If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high >>>>>because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in >>>>>15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you >>>>>if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy >>>>>you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the >>>>>reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy. >>>>> >>>>>The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that >>>>>he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He >>>>>also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have >>>>>the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be >>>>>known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of >>>>>the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low >>>>>mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given >>>>>the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in >>>>>another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP >>>>>brought to the table. >>>>> >>>>>It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is >>>>>usually a factor only when the age isn't there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Which would you buy? >>>> >>>>Exibit A: >>>> >>>>1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all >>>>service records. $5800. >>>> >>>>Exibit B: >>>> >>>>1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all >>>>service records. $5800. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >>>>tw >>>> >>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>>>01 XJ Sport >>>> >>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>>>-- Dave Barry >>>> >>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>>>Function: noun >>>>Date: 1940 >>>> >>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>>>World War II. >>>> >>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>>>______________________________________________ _____________ >> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
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