"Original Miles"
05-20-2004, 11:06 AM
#1
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"Original Miles"
Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
salt, but what are some resources people can use?
It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
report.
I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
about needing to be 81 or newer).
Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
expensive.
vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
salt, but what are some resources people can use?
It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
report.
I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
about needing to be 81 or newer).
Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
expensive.
05-20-2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain
of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
Nothing that I know of really.
The only real sort of "proof" is if the Registration doesn't say "Odometer
Discrepancy".
Of course almost any car that old is going to whether the miles are true or
not.
My '76 CJ-7 is supposedly "original miles" also but it had at least 3 owners
before me and who knows how many owners before that. There is no way to
know how many miles a 28+ year old car has that way.
It could have been driven 30,000 miles in the first year and the engine fell
apart and replaced and nobody would know.
You just have to ask yourself if the car LOOKS like it could be original
miles or not.
The mileage is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot
of cars are junk at 30,000 miles and a lot of cars can be fabulous at
100,000. It all depends on who drove it, how they drive it, where they
drove it, etc.
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than
81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
No, they won't take VIN Numbers that old.
05-20-2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain
of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
Nothing that I know of really.
The only real sort of "proof" is if the Registration doesn't say "Odometer
Discrepancy".
Of course almost any car that old is going to whether the miles are true or
not.
My '76 CJ-7 is supposedly "original miles" also but it had at least 3 owners
before me and who knows how many owners before that. There is no way to
know how many miles a 28+ year old car has that way.
It could have been driven 30,000 miles in the first year and the engine fell
apart and replaced and nobody would know.
You just have to ask yourself if the car LOOKS like it could be original
miles or not.
The mileage is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot
of cars are junk at 30,000 miles and a lot of cars can be fabulous at
100,000. It all depends on who drove it, how they drive it, where they
drove it, etc.
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than
81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
No, they won't take VIN Numbers that old.
05-20-2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain
of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
Nothing that I know of really.
The only real sort of "proof" is if the Registration doesn't say "Odometer
Discrepancy".
Of course almost any car that old is going to whether the miles are true or
not.
My '76 CJ-7 is supposedly "original miles" also but it had at least 3 owners
before me and who knows how many owners before that. There is no way to
know how many miles a 28+ year old car has that way.
It could have been driven 30,000 miles in the first year and the engine fell
apart and replaced and nobody would know.
You just have to ask yourself if the car LOOKS like it could be original
miles or not.
The mileage is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot
of cars are junk at 30,000 miles and a lot of cars can be fabulous at
100,000. It all depends on who drove it, how they drive it, where they
drove it, etc.
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than
81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
No, they won't take VIN Numbers that old.
05-20-2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain
of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
Nothing that I know of really.
The only real sort of "proof" is if the Registration doesn't say "Odometer
Discrepancy".
Of course almost any car that old is going to whether the miles are true or
not.
My '76 CJ-7 is supposedly "original miles" also but it had at least 3 owners
before me and who knows how many owners before that. There is no way to
know how many miles a 28+ year old car has that way.
It could have been driven 30,000 miles in the first year and the engine fell
apart and replaced and nobody would know.
You just have to ask yourself if the car LOOKS like it could be original
miles or not.
The mileage is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot
of cars are junk at 30,000 miles and a lot of cars can be fabulous at
100,000. It all depends on who drove it, how they drive it, where they
drove it, etc.
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than
81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
No, they won't take VIN Numbers that old.
05-20-2004, 12:52 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
A friend asked me about the miles on my CJ7, it has 170K or so.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
05-20-2004, 12:52 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
A friend asked me about the miles on my CJ7, it has 170K or so.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
05-20-2004, 12:52 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
A friend asked me about the miles on my CJ7, it has 170K or so.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
05-20-2004, 12:52 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
A friend asked me about the miles on my CJ7, it has 170K or so.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
I thought about it and said I know for 'sure' the speedometer has 170 on
it and I believe the Dana 44 and the Dana 30 have those miles on them,
though both are rebuilt, so that only counts for the cover and tubes.
Hey my Laredo chrome rims and front grill and stainless bumpers have
those miles.
Who knows about the rest. I don't....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Kevin S." wrote:
>
> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
> vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain of
> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
> report.
> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than 81?
> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> Any good free sources for this info? If I was buyign a vehicle I would
> check it, but $5 for any vehicle I want to look at can start getting
> expensive.
05-20-2004, 01:33 PM
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Re: "Original Miles"
....above and beyond original miles is the "one owner" statements. I
know there is the one benefit of the person actually knowing any and
all maintenance that has been done....but really I personally don't
add much value to a car because it has had "one owner".....you could
have two cars, both 10 years old. One has been beat to hell by the
same guy who figured iot was paid off at the 5 year mark and wasn't
gonna sink any more into it....just seeing how long he could get out
of it. And the otehr could have been owned by a series of caring
owners who faithfully maintained it. =-) I *will* do a thourough
evaluation of a vehicle before purchase, and decide value based wholly
on its own merits...I generally disregard everything the seller says
as suspect =-)
....Gareth
know there is the one benefit of the person actually knowing any and
all maintenance that has been done....but really I personally don't
add much value to a car because it has had "one owner".....you could
have two cars, both 10 years old. One has been beat to hell by the
same guy who figured iot was paid off at the 5 year mark and wasn't
gonna sink any more into it....just seeing how long he could get out
of it. And the otehr could have been owned by a series of caring
owners who faithfully maintained it. =-) I *will* do a thourough
evaluation of a vehicle before purchase, and decide value based wholly
on its own merits...I generally disregard everything the seller says
as suspect =-)
....Gareth