"Original Miles"
#41
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Re: "Original Miles"
Jay Stuler (usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com) wrote on Thursday 20 May 2004 11:42
am:
>
> "Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
>> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of
>> seeing vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it
>> is
>> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain
> of
>> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> Nothing that I know of really.
> The only real sort of "proof" is if the Registration doesn't say "Odometer
> Discrepancy".
> Of course almost any car that old is going to whether the miles are true
> or not.
> My '76 CJ-7 is supposedly "original miles" also but it had at least 3
> owners
> before me and who knows how many owners before that. There is no way to
> know how many miles a 28+ year old car has that way.
> It could have been driven 30,000 miles in the first year and the engine
> fell apart and replaced and nobody would know.
> You just have to ask yourself if the car LOOKS like it could be original
> miles or not.
> The mileage is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot
> of cars are junk at 30,000 miles and a lot of cars can be fabulous at
> 100,000. It all depends on who drove it, how they drive it, where they
> drove it, etc.
>
>> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
>> report.
>> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than
> 81?
>> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
>> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> No, they won't take VIN Numbers that old.
Also, given that it takes about 20 minutes for an inexperienced person to
remove, turn back the odometer, and re-install a CJ speedometer cluster, I
wouldn't put much stock in any number I see there. I just see it as a
reminder to change my oil...
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891
am:
>
> "Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
>> Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of
>> seeing vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it
>> is
>> obvious it's false. I personally always take that statement with a grain
> of
>> salt, but what are some resources people can use?
>
> Nothing that I know of really.
> The only real sort of "proof" is if the Registration doesn't say "Odometer
> Discrepancy".
> Of course almost any car that old is going to whether the miles are true
> or not.
> My '76 CJ-7 is supposedly "original miles" also but it had at least 3
> owners
> before me and who knows how many owners before that. There is no way to
> know how many miles a 28+ year old car has that way.
> It could have been driven 30,000 miles in the first year and the engine
> fell apart and replaced and nobody would know.
> You just have to ask yourself if the car LOOKS like it could be original
> miles or not.
> The mileage is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot
> of cars are junk at 30,000 miles and a lot of cars can be fabulous at
> 100,000. It all depends on who drove it, how they drive it, where they
> drove it, etc.
>
>> It looks like you can click on the VIN and for $5 eBay will get you a
>> report.
>> I'm assuming CarFax.com is a good source. Do they do cars earlier than
> 81?
>> Their exmaple report didn't like the 71 VIN I put in (and made a comment
>> about needing to be 81 or newer).
>
> No, they won't take VIN Numbers that old.
Also, given that it takes about 20 minutes for an inexperienced person to
remove, turn back the odometer, and re-install a CJ speedometer cluster, I
wouldn't put much stock in any number I see there. I just see it as a
reminder to change my oil...
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891
#42
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
#43
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
#44
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
#45
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Re: "Original Miles"
"Kevin S." <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
news:kQ3rc.7$wE1.30232@news.uswest.net...
: Ok, the eBay CJ made me think about this some more. I'm so sick of seeing
: vehicles for sale on the internet claiming original miles, when it is
: obvious it's false.
Obviously false?
You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
is plausible.
My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
Kms on it.
<Reminiscing>
I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less than
10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had been
dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car and
it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered flirting
with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
-Brian
#46
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Re: "Original Miles"
> Obviously false?
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
#47
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Re: "Original Miles"
> Obviously false?
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
#48
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Re: "Original Miles"
> Obviously false?
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
#49
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Re: "Original Miles"
> Obviously false?
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
"full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
> You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
> into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
> is plausible.
> My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
> the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
> Kms on it.
>
> <Reminiscing>
> I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
> all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
> time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
> high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
than
> 10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
> after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
> I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
been
> dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
and
> it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
flirting
> with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
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Re: "Original Miles"
Here is an example of pure BS as far as mileage goes. Note the vehicle wear.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...477974142&rd=1
Kevin S. wrote:
>>Obviously false?
>
>
> I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
> someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
> is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
> gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
> that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
> "full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
>
> I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
> But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
>
>
>>You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
>>into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
>>is plausible.
>>My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
>>the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
>>Kms on it.
>>
>><Reminiscing>
>>I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
>>all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
>>time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
>>high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
>
> than
>
>>10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
>>after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
>>I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
>
> been
>
>>dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
>
> and
>
>>it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
>
> flirting
>
>>with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>>
>>-Brian
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...477974142&rd=1
Kevin S. wrote:
>>Obviously false?
>
>
> I wasn't saying the ebay CJ was obviously false. I'm talking about when
> someone claims low original mileage, and the floor mat under the gas peadal
> is worn through, the seats look like a 300 lb man sat in them for 20 years,
> gas pedal has no "grip" on it, or the steering wheel worn down. Things like
> that. I wasn't making a statement about the eBay CJ. Although a recent
> "full restore" with low original miles makes me wonder ;-)
>
> I have seen some great original unrestored low mileage 60's and 70's Jeeps.
> But most that claim low mileage don't meet my BS test.
>
>
>>You have to take into consideration the type of vehicle. Jeeps *can* fall
>>into that "novelty vehicle" class where low mileage for a 20+ year old car
>>is plausible.
>>My neighbour across the street has an '87 YJ with 40,000 Kms on it, she's
>>the original owner. The neighbour beside me has a '98 GC with over 200,000
>>Kms on it.
>>
>><Reminiscing>
>>I met an old lady (70+) in a coffee shop about 15 yrs ago driving a mint,
>>all original '67 Chevelle - black 2 door, red interior... spotless. Every
>>time she drove the car she would get offers on it, some lo-*****, some
>>high-end offers. She knew EXACTLY what she had... a mint '67 with less
>
> than
>
>>10,000 miles (at the time). Her husband bought it new and died shortly
>>after - she drove it once a week to visit his grave.
>>I spoke with her for about 20 minutes while looking at the car. It had
>
> been
>
>>dealer serviced since new, she's kept every document related to the car
>
> and
>
>>it even had the original spare and jack in the trunk. I considered
>
> flirting
>
>>with her, I was 20 at the time. I wonder if she's still single? ;-)
>>
>>-Brian
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________