"Original Miles"
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Re: "Original Miles"
CRWLR wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
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>
>>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
>
> should
>
>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
>>
>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
>>
>>
>
>
> I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> unit that is that old.
>
> High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
>
> The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> brought to the table.
>
> It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
>
>
Which would you buy?
Exibit A:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
service records. $5800.
Exibit B:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
service records. $5800.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
>
>>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
>
> should
>
>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
>>
>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
>>
>>
>
>
> I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> unit that is that old.
>
> High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
>
> The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> brought to the table.
>
> It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
>
>
Which would you buy?
Exibit A:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
service records. $5800.
Exibit B:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
service records. $5800.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: "Original Miles"
CRWLR wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
>
>>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
>
> should
>
>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
>>
>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
>>
>>
>
>
> I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> unit that is that old.
>
> High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
>
> The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> brought to the table.
>
> It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
>
>
Which would you buy?
Exibit A:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
service records. $5800.
Exibit B:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
service records. $5800.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
>
>>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
>
> should
>
>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
>>
>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
>>
>>
>
>
> I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> unit that is that old.
>
> High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
>
> The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> brought to the table.
>
> It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
>
>
Which would you buy?
Exibit A:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
service records. $5800.
Exibit B:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
service records. $5800.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
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Re: "Original Miles"
CRWLR wrote:
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
>
>>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
>
> should
>
>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
>>
>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
>>
>>
>
>
> I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> unit that is that old.
>
> High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
>
> The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> brought to the table.
>
> It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
>
>
Which would you buy?
Exibit A:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
service records. $5800.
Exibit B:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
service records. $5800.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
>
>>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
>>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
>
> should
>
>>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
>>
>>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
>>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
>>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
>>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
>>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
>>
>>
>
>
> I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> unit that is that old.
>
> High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
>
> The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> brought to the table.
>
> It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
>
>
Which would you buy?
Exibit A:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
service records. $5800.
Exibit B:
1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
service records. $5800.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Re: "Original Miles"
The one that called to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
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Re: "Original Miles"
The one that called to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
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Re: "Original Miles"
The one that called to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Original Miles"
The one that called to me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Original Miles"
Neither, both jerks selling are full of crap.
The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86.
;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >
> >>CRWLR wrote:
> >>
> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
> >>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
> >>
> >>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
> >>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
> >>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
> >>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
> >>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> > nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> > well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> > digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> > spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> > throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> > unit that is that old.
> >
> > High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> > get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> > If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> > because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> > 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> > if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> > you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> > reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
> >
> > The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> > he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> > also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> > the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> > known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> > the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> > mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> > the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> > another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> > brought to the table.
> >
> > It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> > usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
> >
> >
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86.
;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >
> >>CRWLR wrote:
> >>
> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
> >>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
> >>
> >>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
> >>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
> >>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
> >>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
> >>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> > nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> > well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> > digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> > spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> > throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> > unit that is that old.
> >
> > High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> > get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> > If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> > because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> > 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> > if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> > you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> > reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
> >
> > The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> > he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> > also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> > the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> > known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> > the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> > mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> > the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> > another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> > brought to the table.
> >
> > It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> > usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
> >
> >
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Original Miles"
Neither, both jerks selling are full of crap.
The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86.
;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >
> >>CRWLR wrote:
> >>
> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
> >>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
> >>
> >>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
> >>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
> >>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
> >>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
> >>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> > nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> > well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> > digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> > spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> > throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> > unit that is that old.
> >
> > High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> > get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> > If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> > because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> > 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> > if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> > you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> > reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
> >
> > The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> > he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> > also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> > the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> > known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> > the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> > mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> > the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> > another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> > brought to the table.
> >
> > It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> > usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
> >
> >
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86.
;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >
> >>CRWLR wrote:
> >>
> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
> >>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
> >>
> >>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
> >>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
> >>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
> >>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
> >>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> > nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> > well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> > digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> > spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> > throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> > unit that is that old.
> >
> > High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> > get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> > If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> > because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> > 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> > if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> > you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> > reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
> >
> > The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> > he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> > also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> > the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> > known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> > the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> > mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> > the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> > another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> > brought to the table.
> >
> > It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> > usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
> >
> >
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: "Original Miles"
Neither, both jerks selling are full of crap.
The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86.
;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >
> >>CRWLR wrote:
> >>
> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
> >>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
> >>
> >>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
> >>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
> >>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
> >>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
> >>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> > nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> > well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> > digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> > spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> > throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> > unit that is that old.
> >
> > High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> > get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> > If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> > because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> > 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> > if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> > you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> > reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
> >
> > The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> > he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> > also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> > the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> > known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> > the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> > mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> > the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> > another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> > brought to the table.
> >
> > It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> > usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
> >
> >
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
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The CJ7 didn't come with a 4 speed in 86.
;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:Imusc.278$Xt2.62@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >
> >>CRWLR wrote:
> >>
> >>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:ahyrc.1363$W_1.331@newssvr22.news.prodigy. com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Right. I'll agree with that. You just made a broad stroke comment that I
> >>>>didn't agree with. Age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, age _can_ be a factor regardless of mileage. That is why one
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>not be concerned with the indicated mileage on a vehicle that old.
> >>
> >>I guess that's where we differ a little. I look for clean, low mileage,
> >>low owner, used vehicles and am always concerned with verifying mileage.
> >>In my opinion, it's better to find one like that, than its high mileage
> >>counterpart. This is all hinged upon being able to verify mileage. If
> >>something doesn't smell right, I walk away.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I spent three weeks looking for my Jeep. I found several that were pure
> > nightmares. "Ugly" would be too kind. When I found my CJ5, it was clean and
> > well cared for, the mileage was not important because there are only 5
> > digits, and it is impossible to know how many times the left-most one had
> > spun around. The Jeep passed all of the inspections I could dream up to
> > throw at it, the mileage was not important, and should not be important on a
> > unit that is that old.
> >
> > High mileage is relative, and the most relative part is the time it took to
> > get high. If the mileage is high, and the unit is young, then be very leery.
> > If the unit is old, then it is reasonable to expect the mileage to be high
> > because miles are a function of age. A hundred and fifty thousand miles in
> > 15 years is only 10,000 per year. The odometer might not be able to tell you
> > if that 50,000 that is displayed is really 150,000 or 250,000. And the guy
> > you are buying from is the second or third or fourth owner, then the
> > reliability of the display becomes less and less trustworthy.
> >
> > The guy that started this thread came in with something to the effect that
> > he was annoyed with the term "actual miles" or "low miles" or whatever. He
> > also indicated that the object of his affection was one that might only have
> > the 5-digit odometer. I still maintain that the actual miles might not be
> > known, and are not really all that important. There are many indicators of
> > the vehicle having been abused, and it can have been abused with low
> > mileage, and been treated with tender loving care with high mileage. Given
> > the context of the statement, the mileage is not important. Perhaps in
> > another context, the mielage would be important, but not in the one the OP
> > brought to the table.
> >
> > It is true that age can be a factor regardless of mileage, but mileage is
> > usually a factor only when the age isn't there.
> >
> >
>
> Which would you buy?
>
> Exibit A:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, 258k miles (not sure, odo broke in 1992), garaged, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> Exibit B:
>
> 1986 CJ7, 4 spd, one owner, 26k verifiable miles, garaged since new, all
> service records. $5800.
>
> --
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> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
