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Valued User 12-03-2003 08:15 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031203080729.23307.00004816@mb-m29.aol.com...
> In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
> <valued@user.com> writes:


> They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh.


For better or for worse... yes.. and its got a nifty little compass for
those times I forget my Garmin eTrex at home..

> If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well.

With
> ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When

you do
> serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear
> axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket

(and no
> I'm not trying to troll Bill H).


Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.

> 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it

for

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking with the 1 1/4 - I have some
accessories that fit my 2" on my XJ.

> you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it.


I'll look into getting the 3.73's.

> IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a
> Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds

you
> won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because

the
> stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with

some
> Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge
> difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin'

bass,
> you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-)


Wow same speaker setup in my XJ. Swapping out the factory stereo for an
Alpine CD, replacing all 4 speakers with front Infinity and rear Polk's and
putting a 6" self amplified bazooka in my XJ is definately good enough for
me. Granted, my XJ has a permanent roof, I think it might be an improvment.
I'm not into loud. I just want to be able to hear over the wind when the
top's off/down. Plus Circuit City has some good deals around now and they
finally sell Alpine!

> No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is

making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing.
I >ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know
>he made more than $150.


Yeah, I read something about "dealer holdback" where the MFR pays the dealer
some money for the sale. I guess thats how they make money even if they sell
it at invoice. And considering I'm literally going to drive it off the car
carrier, they won't pay rent for the parking space it would have taken up.

> One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet,

you might consider the 5-speed.

I've heard very good things about the auto and I like my 4 speed auto in my
XJ so I'm kinda partial to auto. Besides, if I get the stick I'm apt to go
speeding around turns and testing my roll bars to see if they really work.

Thanks, Matt!



Evan 12-03-2003 09:33 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
get the D 44




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Evan 12-03-2003 09:33 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
get the D 44




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Evan 12-03-2003 09:33 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
get the D 44




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Matt Macchiarolo 12-04-2003 12:13 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes:

>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.


Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" tire/wheel
group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-04-2003 12:13 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes:

>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.


Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" tire/wheel
group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-04-2003 12:13 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes:

>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.


Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" tire/wheel
group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Del Rawlins 12-04-2003 12:46 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
On 03 Dec 2003 08:13 PM, Matt Macchiarolo posted the following:
> In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued
> User" <valued@user.com> writes:
>
>>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.

>
> Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30"
> tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt
> Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://
> wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


The stock 30" tires suck anyway. Just make sure you get at least the 7"
wide steel rims. I put a set of 30" wrangler MT/Rs on my TJ as soon as
I got it home, then sold the stockers to recoup some of the cost. The
result was great traction at LESS than the cost of the factory option,
although this was only possible since I got dealer price on my tires at
the time, otherwise it would have been the same cost for better traction.
8^)

I gave up the possibility of a factory D44 and later upgrade to disk
brakes to get ABS, so I can sympathize.

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Del Rawlins 12-04-2003 12:46 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
On 03 Dec 2003 08:13 PM, Matt Macchiarolo posted the following:
> In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued
> User" <valued@user.com> writes:
>
>>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.

>
> Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30"
> tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt
> Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://
> wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


The stock 30" tires suck anyway. Just make sure you get at least the 7"
wide steel rims. I put a set of 30" wrangler MT/Rs on my TJ as soon as
I got it home, then sold the stockers to recoup some of the cost. The
result was great traction at LESS than the cost of the factory option,
although this was only possible since I got dealer price on my tires at
the time, otherwise it would have been the same cost for better traction.
8^)

I gave up the possibility of a factory D44 and later upgrade to disk
brakes to get ABS, so I can sympathize.

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Del Rawlins 12-04-2003 12:46 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
On 03 Dec 2003 08:13 PM, Matt Macchiarolo posted the following:
> In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued
> User" <valued@user.com> writes:
>
>>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me.

>
> Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30"
> tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt
> Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://
> wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html


The stock 30" tires suck anyway. Just make sure you get at least the 7"
wide steel rims. I put a set of 30" wrangler MT/Rs on my TJ as soon as
I got it home, then sold the stockers to recoup some of the cost. The
result was great traction at LESS than the cost of the factory option,
although this was only possible since I got dealer price on my tires at
the time, otherwise it would have been the same cost for better traction.
8^)

I gave up the possibility of a factory D44 and later upgrade to disk
brakes to get ABS, so I can sympathize.

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