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Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the console actually does something? The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't opt. for). I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many more options available for that size. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Valued User wrote: > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many more options available for that size. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Valued User wrote: > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many more options available for that size. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Valued User wrote: > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size. Earle "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Valued User wrote: > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > console actually does something? > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > opt. for). > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size. Earle "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Valued User wrote: > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > console actually does something? > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > opt. for). > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size. Earle "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Valued User wrote: > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > console actually does something? > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > opt. for). > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler. Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-( "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Valued User wrote: > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > console actually does something? > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > opt. for). > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler. Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-( "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Valued User wrote: > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > console actually does something? > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > opt. for). > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler. Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-( "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Valued User wrote: > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > console actually does something? > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > opt. for). > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > Thanks. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
2" aftermarket it is!! that's why i asked the experts!
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message news:bqjf0j$22knl4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4" > options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is > designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have > is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size. > > Earle > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > > more options available for that size. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Valued User wrote: > > > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on > rock > > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, > sentry > > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm > seriously > > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I > want > > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting > for > > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > > console actually does something? > > > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this > discussion > > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer > is > > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > > opt. for). > > > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > > > Thanks. > > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
2" aftermarket it is!! that's why i asked the experts!
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message news:bqjf0j$22knl4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4" > options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is > designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have > is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size. > > Earle > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > > more options available for that size. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Valued User wrote: > > > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on > rock > > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, > sentry > > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm > seriously > > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I > want > > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting > for > > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > > console actually does something? > > > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this > discussion > > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer > is > > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > > opt. for). > > > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > > > Thanks. > > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
2" aftermarket it is!! that's why i asked the experts!
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message news:bqjf0j$22knl4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de... > The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4" > options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is > designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have > is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size. > > Earle > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net... > > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch > > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many > > more options available for that size. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Valued User wrote: > > > > > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on > rock > > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > > > > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > > > > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, > sentry > > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > > > > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > > > > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > > > > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm > seriously > > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I > want > > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > > > > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting > for > > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > > > console actually does something? > > > > > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this > discussion > > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > > > > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer > is > > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > > > > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > > > opt. for). > > > > > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > > > > > Thanks. > > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Warn looks nice:
http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/pa...earBumper.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Valued User wrote: > > Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity. > Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler. > > Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-( |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Warn looks nice:
http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/pa...earBumper.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Valued User wrote: > > Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity. > Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler. > > Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-( |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Warn looks nice:
http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/pa...earBumper.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Valued User wrote: > > Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity. > Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler. > > Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-( |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
"Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. If you can't get the Rubicon, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear axle option. Skip something else if you can't swing the extra dough. The standard Dana 35 is a pile of crap. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
"Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. If you can't get the Rubicon, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear axle option. Skip something else if you can't swing the extra dough. The standard Dana 35 is a pile of crap. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
"Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. If you can't get the Rubicon, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear axle option. Skip something else if you can't swing the extra dough. The standard Dana 35 is a pile of crap. |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Sounds good, but I'd ditch the side steps (they'll get broken off on
the trail anyway), and also the tire cover (never understood why people try to 'protect' the spare when the other four tires/wheels are exposed anyway?). And by your request, I'll keep my mouth shut regarding the ABS at the expense of the Dana44. :) Other than that, options sound good IMO, and from what I priced out, it sounds like the dealer is giving it to you pretty much at invoice, which is good deal I think. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:07:53 GMT, "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote: >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the >console actually does something? > >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't >opt. for). > >I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > >Thanks. > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Sounds good, but I'd ditch the side steps (they'll get broken off on
the trail anyway), and also the tire cover (never understood why people try to 'protect' the spare when the other four tires/wheels are exposed anyway?). And by your request, I'll keep my mouth shut regarding the ABS at the expense of the Dana44. :) Other than that, options sound good IMO, and from what I priced out, it sounds like the dealer is giving it to you pretty much at invoice, which is good deal I think. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:07:53 GMT, "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote: >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the >console actually does something? > >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't >opt. for). > >I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > >Thanks. > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
Sounds good, but I'd ditch the side steps (they'll get broken off on
the trail anyway), and also the tire cover (never understood why people try to 'protect' the spare when the other four tires/wheels are exposed anyway?). And by your request, I'll keep my mouth shut regarding the ABS at the expense of the Dana44. :) Other than that, options sound good IMO, and from what I priced out, it sounds like the dealer is giving it to you pretty much at invoice, which is good deal I think. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:07:53 GMT, "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote: >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the >console actually does something? > >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't >opt. for). > >I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > >Thanks. > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes: >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh. > >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well. With ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When you do serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket (and no I'm not trying to troll Bill H). > >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it for less than the dealer. You will lose some departure angle, as it hangs below th ebumper. I have a Draw Tite I might be willing to let go....used but not abused, make an offer.... > >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. If you are going to replace the tires with 31's soon, I would opt for the tire/wheel group, because included with that is a 3.73 final drive ratio, where stock would be 3.07. I'm not sure if that applies to the auto tranny, tho. If you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it. > >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the >console actually does something? > IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds you won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because the stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with some Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin' bass, you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-) >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). No D44 with ABS, see above.... > >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing. I ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know he made more than $150. > >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't >opt. for). > One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet, you might consider the 5-speed. Good luck! * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes: >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh. > >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well. With ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When you do serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket (and no I'm not trying to troll Bill H). > >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it for less than the dealer. You will lose some departure angle, as it hangs below th ebumper. I have a Draw Tite I might be willing to let go....used but not abused, make an offer.... > >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. If you are going to replace the tires with 31's soon, I would opt for the tire/wheel group, because included with that is a 3.73 final drive ratio, where stock would be 3.07. I'm not sure if that applies to the auto tranny, tho. If you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it. > >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the >console actually does something? > IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds you won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because the stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with some Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin' bass, you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-) >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). No D44 with ABS, see above.... > >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing. I ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know he made more than $150. > >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't >opt. for). > One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet, you might consider the 5-speed. Good luck! * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes: >Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock >crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > >I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > >Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry >key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh. > >And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well. With ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When you do serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket (and no I'm not trying to troll Bill H). > >I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it for less than the dealer. You will lose some departure angle, as it hangs below th ebumper. I have a Draw Tite I might be willing to let go....used but not abused, make an offer.... > >Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously >debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want >to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing >huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. If you are going to replace the tires with 31's soon, I would opt for the tire/wheel group, because included with that is a 3.73 final drive ratio, where stock would be 3.07. I'm not sure if that applies to the auto tranny, tho. If you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it. > >I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 >tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for >the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is >worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the >console actually does something? > IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds you won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because the stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with some Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin' bass, you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-) >The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion >has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS >thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). No D44 with ABS, see above.... > >The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is >saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out >Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing. I ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know he made more than $150. > >What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't >opt. for). > One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet, you might consider the 5-speed. Good luck! * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
ditto... what Bill said... That also gets you the 3.73 gears which is
better for towing and bigger tires (I assume you included the 4.0... does the Sport always include that?) -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch >receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many >more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. > > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
ditto... what Bill said... That also gets you the 3.73 gears which is
better for towing and bigger tires (I assume you included the 4.0... does the Sport always include that?) -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch >receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many >more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. > > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
ditto... what Bill said... That also gets you the 3.73 gears which is
better for towing and bigger tires (I assume you included the 4.0... does the Sport always include that?) -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch >receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many >more options available for that size. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. . > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading. > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options: > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap. > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS. > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch. > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s. > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2 > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the > console actually does something? > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not). > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good. > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't > opt. for). > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend. > > Thanks. > > |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message news:20031203080729.23307.00004816@mb-m29.aol.com... > In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User" > <valued@user.com> writes: > They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh. For better or for worse... yes.. and its got a nifty little compass for those times I forget my Garmin eTrex at home.. > If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well. With > ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When you do > serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear > axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket (and no > I'm not trying to troll Bill H). Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. > 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it for Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking with the 1 1/4 - I have some accessories that fit my 2" on my XJ. > you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it. I'll look into getting the 3.73's. > IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a > Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds you > won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because the > stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with some > Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge > difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin' bass, > you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-) Wow same speaker setup in my XJ. Swapping out the factory stereo for an Alpine CD, replacing all 4 speakers with front Infinity and rear Polk's and putting a 6" self amplified bazooka in my XJ is definately good enough for me. Granted, my XJ has a permanent roof, I think it might be an improvment. I'm not into loud. I just want to be able to hear over the wind when the top's off/down. Plus Circuit City has some good deals around now and they finally sell Alpine! > No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing. I >ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know >he made more than $150. Yeah, I read something about "dealer holdback" where the MFR pays the dealer some money for the sale. I guess thats how they make money even if they sell it at invoice. And considering I'm literally going to drive it off the car carrier, they won't pay rent for the parking space it would have taken up. > One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet, you might consider the 5-speed. I've heard very good things about the auto and I like my 4 speed auto in my XJ so I'm kinda partial to auto. Besides, if I get the stick I'm apt to go speeding around turns and testing my roll bars to see if they really work. Thanks, Matt! |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message news:20031203080729.23307.00004816@mb-m29.aol.com... > In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User" > <valued@user.com> writes: > They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh. For better or for worse... yes.. and its got a nifty little compass for those times I forget my Garmin eTrex at home.. > If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well. With > ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When you do > serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear > axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket (and no > I'm not trying to troll Bill H). Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. > 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it for Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking with the 1 1/4 - I have some accessories that fit my 2" on my XJ. > you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it. I'll look into getting the 3.73's. > IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a > Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds you > won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because the > stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with some > Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge > difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin' bass, > you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-) Wow same speaker setup in my XJ. Swapping out the factory stereo for an Alpine CD, replacing all 4 speakers with front Infinity and rear Polk's and putting a 6" self amplified bazooka in my XJ is definately good enough for me. Granted, my XJ has a permanent roof, I think it might be an improvment. I'm not into loud. I just want to be able to hear over the wind when the top's off/down. Plus Circuit City has some good deals around now and they finally sell Alpine! > No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing. I >ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know >he made more than $150. Yeah, I read something about "dealer holdback" where the MFR pays the dealer some money for the sale. I guess thats how they make money even if they sell it at invoice. And considering I'm literally going to drive it off the car carrier, they won't pay rent for the parking space it would have taken up. > One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet, you might consider the 5-speed. I've heard very good things about the auto and I like my 4 speed auto in my XJ so I'm kinda partial to auto. Besides, if I get the stick I'm apt to go speeding around turns and testing my roll bars to see if they really work. Thanks, Matt! |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message news:20031203080729.23307.00004816@mb-m29.aol.com... > In article <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User" > <valued@user.com> writes: > They have auto dimming mirrors now? Sheesh. For better or for worse... yes.. and its got a nifty little compass for those times I forget my Garmin eTrex at home.. > If you order the 30" tire/wheel group you will get the TracLoc as well. With > ABS you will get a rear D35, which will be fine for your purposes. When you do > serious off-roading, eventually you will be replacing that rear > axle....fortunately a D44 that is ABS compatible is in the aftermarket (and no > I'm not trying to troll Bill H). Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. > 2" is better, and shop that around, a hitch place will probably install it for Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking with the 1 1/4 - I have some accessories that fit my 2" on my XJ. > you can get the 3.73 without the tire/wheel group, get it. I'll look into getting the 3.73's. > IMHO spending more than a couple hundred to upgrade the sound sytem in a > Wrangler is a fools errand...these things are so noisy at highway speeds you > won't be able to hear the improvements. I had to replace my radio because the > stock one got infiltrated by dirt, and I just replaced the speakers with some > Polks (5 1/2" round up front, 6 1/2 in the sound bar) and it made a huge > difference, but I still can't tell on the highway. If you want thumpin' bass, > you might want to get a 4" lowering kit and 20" rims as well.... :-) Wow same speaker setup in my XJ. Swapping out the factory stereo for an Alpine CD, replacing all 4 speakers with front Infinity and rear Polk's and putting a 6" self amplified bazooka in my XJ is definately good enough for me. Granted, my XJ has a permanent roof, I think it might be an improvment. I'm not into loud. I just want to be able to hear over the wind when the top's off/down. Plus Circuit City has some good deals around now and they finally sell Alpine! > No matter how much the dealer says he is selling it for, remember he is making money, even if he is selling it below dealer cost. Not a bad thing. I >ordered and bought my TJ for something like $150 over invoice, but I know >he made more than $150. Yeah, I read something about "dealer holdback" where the MFR pays the dealer some money for the sale. I guess thats how they make money even if they sell it at invoice. And considering I'm literally going to drive it off the car carrier, they won't pay rent for the parking space it would have taken up. > One last thing...The bugs in the new 4-sp auto may not be worked out yet, you might consider the 5-speed. I've heard very good things about the auto and I like my 4 speed auto in my XJ so I'm kinda partial to auto. Besides, if I get the stick I'm apt to go speeding around turns and testing my roll bars to see if they really work. Thanks, Matt! |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
get the D 44
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Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
get the D 44
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Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
get the D 44
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Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes: >Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes: >Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued User"
<valued@user.com> writes: >Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
On 03 Dec 2003 08:13 PM, Matt Macchiarolo posted the following:
> In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued > User" <valued@user.com> writes: > >>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. > > Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" > tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt > Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http:// > wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html The stock 30" tires suck anyway. Just make sure you get at least the 7" wide steel rims. I put a set of 30" wrangler MT/Rs on my TJ as soon as I got it home, then sold the stockers to recoup some of the cost. The result was great traction at LESS than the cost of the factory option, although this was only possible since I got dealer price on my tires at the time, otherwise it would have been the same cost for better traction. 8^) I gave up the possibility of a factory D44 and later upgrade to disk brakes to get ABS, so I can sympathize. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
On 03 Dec 2003 08:13 PM, Matt Macchiarolo posted the following:
> In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued > User" <valued@user.com> writes: > >>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. > > Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" > tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt > Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http:// > wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html The stock 30" tires suck anyway. Just make sure you get at least the 7" wide steel rims. I put a set of 30" wrangler MT/Rs on my TJ as soon as I got it home, then sold the stockers to recoup some of the cost. The result was great traction at LESS than the cost of the factory option, although this was only possible since I got dealer price on my tires at the time, otherwise it would have been the same cost for better traction. 8^) I gave up the possibility of a factory D44 and later upgrade to disk brakes to get ABS, so I can sympathize. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
On 03 Dec 2003 08:13 PM, Matt Macchiarolo posted the following:
> In article <uUvzb.96244$Vs1.23161@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Valued > User" <valued@user.com> writes: > >>Can't get ABS with the 30" group = no 30" group for me. > > Hmm.. that's been changed since 2000, mine came with ABS and the 30" > tire/wheel group, but it subbed out the D44 for a 35. * * * Matt > Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http:// > wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html The stock 30" tires suck anyway. Just make sure you get at least the 7" wide steel rims. I put a set of 30" wrangler MT/Rs on my TJ as soon as I got it home, then sold the stockers to recoup some of the cost. The result was great traction at LESS than the cost of the factory option, although this was only possible since I got dealer price on my tires at the time, otherwise it would have been the same cost for better traction. 8^) I gave up the possibility of a factory D44 and later upgrade to disk brakes to get ABS, so I can sympathize. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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