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Valued User 12-02-2003 08:07 PM

Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.

I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:

Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.

And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.

I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.

Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.

I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
console actually does something?

The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).

The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.

What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
opt. for).

I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.

Thanks.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-02-2003 08:20 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
more options available for that size.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Valued User wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> console actually does something?
>
> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> opt. for).
>
> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> Thanks.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-02-2003 08:20 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
more options available for that size.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Valued User wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> console actually does something?
>
> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> opt. for).
>
> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> Thanks.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-02-2003 08:20 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
more options available for that size.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Valued User wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> console actually does something?
>
> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> opt. for).
>
> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> Thanks.


Earle Horton 12-02-2003 08:40 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is
designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have
is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> more options available for that size.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Valued User wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> >
> > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> >
> > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

sentry
> > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> >
> > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> >
> > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> >
> > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> >
> > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

for
> > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> > console actually does something?
> >
> > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

discussion
> > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> >
> > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

is
> > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> >
> > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> > opt. for).
> >
> > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks.




Earle Horton 12-02-2003 08:40 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is
designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have
is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> more options available for that size.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Valued User wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> >
> > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> >
> > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

sentry
> > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> >
> > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> >
> > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> >
> > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> >
> > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

for
> > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> > console actually does something?
> >
> > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

discussion
> > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> >
> > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

is
> > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> >
> > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> > opt. for).
> >
> > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks.




Earle Horton 12-02-2003 08:40 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is
designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have
is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> more options available for that size.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Valued User wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> >
> > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> >
> > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

sentry
> > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> >
> > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> >
> > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> >
> > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> >
> > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

for
> > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> > console actually does something?
> >
> > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

discussion
> > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> >
> > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

is
> > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> >
> > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> > opt. for).
> >
> > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks.




Valued User 12-02-2003 08:53 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler.

Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> more options available for that size.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Valued User wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> >
> > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> >
> > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

sentry
> > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> >
> > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> >
> > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> >
> > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> >
> > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

for
> > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> > console actually does something?
> >
> > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

discussion
> > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> >
> > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

is
> > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> >
> > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> > opt. for).
> >
> > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks.




Valued User 12-02-2003 08:53 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler.

Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> more options available for that size.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Valued User wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> >
> > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> >
> > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

sentry
> > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> >
> > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> >
> > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> >
> > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> >
> > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

for
> > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> > console actually does something?
> >
> > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

discussion
> > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> >
> > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

is
> > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> >
> > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> > opt. for).
> >
> > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks.




Valued User 12-02-2003 08:53 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler.

Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> more options available for that size.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Valued User wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> >
> > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> >
> > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

sentry
> > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> >
> > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> >
> > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> >
> > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> >
> > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

for
> > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> > console actually does something?
> >
> > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

discussion
> > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> >
> > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

is
> > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> >
> > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> > opt. for).
> >
> > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks.





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