Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

I have a alright stereo system in my XJ and do not turn it loud until I'm
away from houses. I hate when people drive thru suburbs with their stereos
cranked up.

I plan on upgrading the speakers and moving my 6" bazooka from my XJ to my
TJ when I get it depending on what the stock system sounds like. Lately I'm
listening to AM/Talk/News/Financial radio more while driving my 5 miles
to/from the bus station so it's not that big an issue right now.

<COLLIDE13@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I have the sound pkg.It is HOOPTIE and laud but good on the highway.It
drowns out most noise but be kind to your neighbors.-Hank.

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

Bill, you need to get out more.

http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2003/stats/records.html

Check out the Pro FWD class record at 8.04 seconds.

Chris

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Under full power the full weight of the vehicle is transferred to
> the rear axle, that's why there are no front wheel drive race cars,
> except in there own little Japanese sponsored categories. We can see
> these cars don't even need a front axle:
> http://www.nhra.com/2003/gallery/tf/...me=Larry_Dixon and:
>
http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> thomas wrote:
> >
> > OK, someone please enlighten this newbie: why is it that the Dana 44
> > axle upgrade is only in the rear? Or, put another way, what is it about
> > the rear axle that justifies the upgrade there first? It would seem to
> > me that on a 4WD vehicle with an even 50/50 front/rear weight
> > distribution and the same size tires on both axles, that both axles
> > would benefit from the upgrade...naturally I understand that in 2WD mode
> > the wrangler is rear wheel drive, but... well, you get my drift.
> >
> > Just curious

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

Bill, you need to get out more.

http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2003/stats/records.html

Check out the Pro FWD class record at 8.04 seconds.

Chris

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FD219B8.1EAEFC92@cox.net...
> Under full power the full weight of the vehicle is transferred to
> the rear axle, that's why there are no front wheel drive race cars,
> except in there own little Japanese sponsored categories. We can see
> these cars don't even need a front axle:
> http://www.nhra.com/2003/gallery/tf/...me=Larry_Dixon and:
>
http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> thomas wrote:
> >
> > OK, someone please enlighten this newbie: why is it that the Dana 44
> > axle upgrade is only in the rear? Or, put another way, what is it about
> > the rear axle that justifies the upgrade there first? It would seem to
> > me that on a 4WD vehicle with an even 50/50 front/rear weight
> > distribution and the same size tires on both axles, that both axles
> > would benefit from the upgrade...naturally I understand that in 2WD mode
> > the wrangler is rear wheel drive, but... well, you get my drift.
> >
> > Just curious

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

Bill, you need to get out more.

http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2003/stats/records.html

Check out the Pro FWD class record at 8.04 seconds.

Chris

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FD219B8.1EAEFC92@cox.net...
> Under full power the full weight of the vehicle is transferred to
> the rear axle, that's why there are no front wheel drive race cars,
> except in there own little Japanese sponsored categories. We can see
> these cars don't even need a front axle:
> http://www.nhra.com/2003/gallery/tf/...me=Larry_Dixon and:
>
http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> thomas wrote:
> >
> > OK, someone please enlighten this newbie: why is it that the Dana 44
> > axle upgrade is only in the rear? Or, put another way, what is it about
> > the rear axle that justifies the upgrade there first? It would seem to
> > me that on a 4WD vehicle with an even 50/50 front/rear weight
> > distribution and the same size tires on both axles, that both axles
> > would benefit from the upgrade...naturally I understand that in 2WD mode
> > the wrangler is rear wheel drive, but... well, you get my drift.
> >
> > Just curious

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.

Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.

-jeff


In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> writes:

>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.

>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:

>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.

>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.

>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.

>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.

>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>console actually does something?

>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).

>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.

>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>opt. for).

>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.

>Thanks.

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.

Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.

-jeff


In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> writes:

>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.

>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:

>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.

>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.

>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.

>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.

>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>console actually does something?

>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).

>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.

>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>opt. for).

>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.

>Thanks.

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason to
EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.

Also, forget the 1-1/4" hitch. THat's an uncommon size.

-jeff


In <JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> writes:

>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.

>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:

>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.

>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.

>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.

>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.

>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>console actually does something?

>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).

>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.

>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>opt. for).

>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.

>Thanks.

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

On 09 Dec 2003 08:49 PM, Jeff Olsen posted the following:
> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason
> to EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.

I agree with you about the 3.73 gears, but he seems to be pretty adamant
about wanting ABS, and willing to give up the factory 44 to get it (as I
was).

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Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

On 09 Dec 2003 08:49 PM, Jeff Olsen posted the following:
> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason
> to EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.

I agree with you about the 3.73 gears, but he seems to be pretty adamant
about wanting ABS, and willing to give up the factory 44 to get it (as I
was).

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Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

On 09 Dec 2003 08:49 PM, Jeff Olsen posted the following:
> Make sure you get 3.73 gearing and a Dana 44 rear axle!!! No reason
> to EVER order a new Jeep w/o those two items.

I agree with you about the 3.73 gears, but he seems to be pretty adamant
about wanting ABS, and willing to give up the factory 44 to get it (as I
was).

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