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Valued User 12-02-2003 09:00 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
2" aftermarket it is!! that's why i asked the experts!

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bqjf0j$22knl4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
> options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is
> designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have
> is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> > more options available for that size.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Valued User wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

> rock
> > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> > >
> > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> > >
> > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

> sentry
> > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> > >
> > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> > >
> > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

> seriously
> > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

> want
> > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims -

nothing
> > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> > >
> > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

> for
> > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option

is
> > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in

the
> > > console actually does something?
> > >
> > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

> discussion
> > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another

ABS
> > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> > >
> > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

> is
> > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> > >
> > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I

didn't
> > > opt. for).
> > >
> > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> > >
> > > Thanks.

>
>




Valued User 12-02-2003 09:00 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
2" aftermarket it is!! that's why i asked the experts!

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bqjf0j$22knl4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
> options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is
> designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have
> is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> > more options available for that size.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Valued User wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

> rock
> > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> > >
> > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> > >
> > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

> sentry
> > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> > >
> > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> > >
> > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

> seriously
> > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

> want
> > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims -

nothing
> > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> > >
> > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

> for
> > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option

is
> > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in

the
> > > console actually does something?
> > >
> > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

> discussion
> > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another

ABS
> > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> > >
> > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

> is
> > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> > >
> > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I

didn't
> > > opt. for).
> > >
> > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> > >
> > > Thanks.

>
>




Valued User 12-02-2003 09:00 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
2" aftermarket it is!! that's why i asked the experts!

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bqjf0j$22knl4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> The two inch receiver options are much more sturdy than the (joke) 1 1/4"
> options. A bike rack, for example, will flop all over the place if it is
> designed for the 1 1/4" receiver, but the 2 inch receiver rack that I have
> is pretty darn sturdy. I am with Bill on the hitch size.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FCD3A47.C2CAB51E@cox.net...
> > Get the Dana 44 rear end. ;-) And an after market two inch
> > receiver, even though you don't need the class III hitch, there are many
> > more options available for that size.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Valued User wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

> rock
> > > crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
> > >
> > > I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
> > >
> > > Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover,

> sentry
> > > key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
> > >
> > > And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
> > >
> > > Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

> seriously
> > > debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

> want
> > > to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims -

nothing
> > > huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
> > >
> > > I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> > > tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting

> for
> > > the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option

is
> > > worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in

the
> > > console actually does something?
> > >
> > > The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this

> discussion
> > > has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another

ABS
> > > thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
> > >
> > > The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer

> is
> > > saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> > > Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
> > >
> > > What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I

didn't
> > > opt. for).
> > >
> > > I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
> > >
> > > Thanks.

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-02-2003 09:15 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Warn looks nice:
http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/pa...earBumper.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Valued User wrote:
>
> Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
> Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler.
>
> Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-(


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-02-2003 09:15 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Warn looks nice:
http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/pa...earBumper.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Valued User wrote:
>
> Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
> Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler.
>
> Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-(


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-02-2003 09:15 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Warn looks nice:
http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/pa...earBumper.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Valued User wrote:
>
> Thanks. I have a 2" in my Cherokee which has a higher towing capacity.
> Didn't know they'd have a 2" for the lower capacity Wrangler.
>
> Can't get the Dana 44 with ABS :-(


Jerry McG 12-02-2003 10:49 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

"Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> console actually does something?
>
> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> opt. for).
>
> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> Thanks.


If you can't get the Rubicon, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear axle option.
Skip something else if you can't swing the extra dough. The standard Dana 35
is a pile of crap.



Jerry McG 12-02-2003 10:49 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

"Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> console actually does something?
>
> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> opt. for).
>
> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> Thanks.


If you can't get the Rubicon, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear axle option.
Skip something else if you can't swing the extra dough. The standard Dana 35
is a pile of crap.



Jerry McG 12-02-2003 10:49 PM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 

"Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
news:JHazb.90560$Vs1.20370@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on

rock
> crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
> I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
> Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
> key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
> And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
> I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
> Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm

seriously
> debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I

want
> to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
> huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
> I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
> tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
> the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
> worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
> console actually does something?
>
> The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
> has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
> thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
> The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
> saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
> Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
> What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
> opt. for).
>
> I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
> Thanks.


If you can't get the Rubicon, be sure to get the Dana 44 rear axle option.
Skip something else if you can't swing the extra dough. The standard Dana 35
is a pile of crap.



David C. Moller 12-03-2003 12:20 AM

Re: Ordering a 04TJ this weekend - opinions please!
 
Sounds good, but I'd ditch the side steps (they'll get broken off on
the trail anyway), and also the tire cover (never understood why
people try to 'protect' the spare when the other four tires/wheels are
exposed anyway?). And by your request, I'll keep my mouth shut
regarding the ABS at the expense of the Dana44. :)

Other than that, options sound good IMO, and from what I priced out,
it sounds like the dealer is giving it to you pretty much at invoice,
which is good deal I think.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:07:53 GMT, "Valued User" <valued@user.com>
wrote:

>Hi. I'm plonging down for a 04TJ Sport this weekend. I don't intend on rock
>crawling (well, not yet). We do go camping and light off-roading.
>
>I priced out a Wrangler with the following options:
>
>Auto, air, dimming mirror, dual tops, floor mats, spare tire cover, sentry
>key, add a trunk, bodyside steps, speed control, locking fuel cap.
>
>And Trac-Lock, and 4 wheel ABS.
>
>I'm thinking of having them put a 1 1/4" trailer hitch.
>
>Any other options (factory or dealer) that I should be adding? I'm seriously
>debating getting the Ecco wheel and tire group for the $500 - I know I want
>to run some beefy BGF AT's on either the stock 7" or new rims - nothing
>huge - whatever will fit - I'm thinking 31"'s.
>
>I also will be putting in a new MP3 Alpine radio, a 6" bazooka and 2
>tweeters, and probably upgrading the stock speakers instead of opting for
>the 7 speaker system (I seriously doubt the extra $250 for the option is
>worth it) unless anyone here can attest that the little subwoofer in the
>console actually does something?
>
>The whole reason I have to order it is because I want ABS (this discussion
>has been beaten to death in other threads so lets not start another ABS
>thread here - I'm getting it wether you agree or not).
>
>The MSRP (minus the $1500 cash allowance) is about 25,825 - the dealer is
>saying he'll sell it to me for about $2,200 cheaper. I've checked out
>Edmunds.com and some other sites and the price is pretty darn good.
>
>What do you think about the price and the options (esp the ones I didn't
>opt. for).
>
>I'm planning on putting down a refundable deposit this weekend.
>
>Thanks.
>




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