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Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
Mike Romain wrote:
> Yup, for sure. > > Some turn into pin cushions. > > If the engine is totally dry, it might be ok, but if the engine is > seeping anywhere, forget it. To me any leak that shows up because synthetic oil cleaned the sludge that was blocking it, is a small price to pay for knowing that it will never sludge up again. Not to mention that it diagnosed an existing leak for me (hypothetically speaking; because I've never seen an oil leak occur, or get worse after putting synthetics in). I have had Mobil 1 in 6 or 7 vehicles and my 88 YJ and haven't seen any leakage, or increase in leakage in the case of one Dodge pickup (very minor rear main leak that has stayed very minor). Or my Boss' YJ (which leaked like a sieve before I switched it to synthetics, and still leaks the same amount about 1 quart per 200 miles after the switch). -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
Mike Romain wrote:
> Yup, for sure. > > Some turn into pin cushions. > > If the engine is totally dry, it might be ok, but if the engine is > seeping anywhere, forget it. To me any leak that shows up because synthetic oil cleaned the sludge that was blocking it, is a small price to pay for knowing that it will never sludge up again. Not to mention that it diagnosed an existing leak for me (hypothetically speaking; because I've never seen an oil leak occur, or get worse after putting synthetics in). I have had Mobil 1 in 6 or 7 vehicles and my 88 YJ and haven't seen any leakage, or increase in leakage in the case of one Dodge pickup (very minor rear main leak that has stayed very minor). Or my Boss' YJ (which leaked like a sieve before I switched it to synthetics, and still leaks the same amount about 1 quart per 200 miles after the switch). -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
I put mobil 1 in my YJ when I bought it at 189000 miles not leaking oil and
it still doesn't leak oil at 194000 or so miles. If it didn't leak in the first place, it shouldn't leak afterwards. See the oem website for this. The oil was changed every 3000 miles by the PO so I guess it all depends on who owned it and how they maintained it. In article <bvn5p702str@enews2.newsguy.com>, <Skip> wrote: >yeah that was my thought... > >-- >Skip > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >news:0uETb.29125$L_4.15052@okepread01... >> Skip did pass the time by typing: >> > I hear if you put Mobil 1 into a high miles engine it will introduce >leaks >> > in the seals... >> > >> > Opinions??? >> >> What putting a synthetic into an engine will do is >> break down gunk that may be providing a seal and allow >> some oil to leak through. This is an indication you need >> to fix the seal or rebuild since engine seals shouldn't >> rely on crud to prevent leaks. >> >> -- >> DougW >> >> > > -- <html><form><input type crash></form></html> nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
I put mobil 1 in my YJ when I bought it at 189000 miles not leaking oil and
it still doesn't leak oil at 194000 or so miles. If it didn't leak in the first place, it shouldn't leak afterwards. See the oem website for this. The oil was changed every 3000 miles by the PO so I guess it all depends on who owned it and how they maintained it. In article <bvn5p702str@enews2.newsguy.com>, <Skip> wrote: >yeah that was my thought... > >-- >Skip > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >news:0uETb.29125$L_4.15052@okepread01... >> Skip did pass the time by typing: >> > I hear if you put Mobil 1 into a high miles engine it will introduce >leaks >> > in the seals... >> > >> > Opinions??? >> >> What putting a synthetic into an engine will do is >> break down gunk that may be providing a seal and allow >> some oil to leak through. This is an indication you need >> to fix the seal or rebuild since engine seals shouldn't >> rely on crud to prevent leaks. >> >> -- >> DougW >> >> > > -- <html><form><input type crash></form></html> nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
I put mobil 1 in my YJ when I bought it at 189000 miles not leaking oil and
it still doesn't leak oil at 194000 or so miles. If it didn't leak in the first place, it shouldn't leak afterwards. See the oem website for this. The oil was changed every 3000 miles by the PO so I guess it all depends on who owned it and how they maintained it. In article <bvn5p702str@enews2.newsguy.com>, <Skip> wrote: >yeah that was my thought... > >-- >Skip > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >news:0uETb.29125$L_4.15052@okepread01... >> Skip did pass the time by typing: >> > I hear if you put Mobil 1 into a high miles engine it will introduce >leaks >> > in the seals... >> > >> > Opinions??? >> >> What putting a synthetic into an engine will do is >> break down gunk that may be providing a seal and allow >> some oil to leak through. This is an indication you need >> to fix the seal or rebuild since engine seals shouldn't >> rely on crud to prevent leaks. >> >> -- >> DougW >> >> > > -- <html><form><input type crash></form></html> nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
That's a pretty good assessment (good movin' parts + good maintenance =
good whatever's in it). But, to put a little twist on an old, tired engine that doesn't leak yet, here's the idea. If you have tired seals that don't leak and weren't taken care of, the crankshaft, for example, can build up a film that will take up a gap that might exist between the crank and its seal. That film's what is called a "faux facade" or "false face". Don't ask me why they used French terms but it might have something to do with the marvels of French engineering:) Anyways, if you put a pure synthetic oil in the engine that does a great job at cleaning the moving parts, it'll clean that filmy layer right off the crank and leak a gap between it and the seal. Bam! It starts leaking. So, in your case, you're just fine because you've done a bang-up job at taking care of everything. But, in the case of a neglected engine, it may show you the spoiled fruits of lacking labor. It's just like this guy who swears by the Magical Mystical Voodoo Oil. My buddy swears by the stuff and says that his motor is in great shape because he adds it at every 3,000 mile oil change... Well, DUH! I think you could swap out Brent sweet crude every 3,000 and have a good motor:) o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message news:4026ddfe_1@nntp2.nac.net... > I put mobil 1 in my YJ when I bought it at 189000 miles not leaking oil and > it still doesn't leak oil at 194000 or so miles. If it didn't leak in the > first place, it shouldn't leak afterwards. See the oem website for this. > The oil was changed every 3000 miles by the PO so I guess it all depends > on who owned it and how they maintained it. > > > In article <bvn5p702str@enews2.newsguy.com>, <Skip> wrote: > >yeah that was my thought... > > > >-- > >Skip > > > > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > >news:0uETb.29125$L_4.15052@okepread01... > >> Skip did pass the time by typing: > >> > I hear if you put Mobil 1 into a high miles engine it will introduce > >leaks > >> > in the seals... > >> > > >> > Opinions??? > >> > >> What putting a synthetic into an engine will do is > >> break down gunk that may be providing a seal and allow > >> some oil to leak through. This is an indication you need > >> to fix the seal or rebuild since engine seals shouldn't > >> rely on crud to prevent leaks. > >> > >> -- > >> DougW > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > <html><form><input type crash></form></html> > nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
That's a pretty good assessment (good movin' parts + good maintenance =
good whatever's in it). But, to put a little twist on an old, tired engine that doesn't leak yet, here's the idea. If you have tired seals that don't leak and weren't taken care of, the crankshaft, for example, can build up a film that will take up a gap that might exist between the crank and its seal. That film's what is called a "faux facade" or "false face". Don't ask me why they used French terms but it might have something to do with the marvels of French engineering:) Anyways, if you put a pure synthetic oil in the engine that does a great job at cleaning the moving parts, it'll clean that filmy layer right off the crank and leak a gap between it and the seal. Bam! It starts leaking. So, in your case, you're just fine because you've done a bang-up job at taking care of everything. But, in the case of a neglected engine, it may show you the spoiled fruits of lacking labor. It's just like this guy who swears by the Magical Mystical Voodoo Oil. My buddy swears by the stuff and says that his motor is in great shape because he adds it at every 3,000 mile oil change... Well, DUH! I think you could swap out Brent sweet crude every 3,000 and have a good motor:) o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message news:4026ddfe_1@nntp2.nac.net... > I put mobil 1 in my YJ when I bought it at 189000 miles not leaking oil and > it still doesn't leak oil at 194000 or so miles. If it didn't leak in the > first place, it shouldn't leak afterwards. See the oem website for this. > The oil was changed every 3000 miles by the PO so I guess it all depends > on who owned it and how they maintained it. > > > In article <bvn5p702str@enews2.newsguy.com>, <Skip> wrote: > >yeah that was my thought... > > > >-- > >Skip > > > > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > >news:0uETb.29125$L_4.15052@okepread01... > >> Skip did pass the time by typing: > >> > I hear if you put Mobil 1 into a high miles engine it will introduce > >leaks > >> > in the seals... > >> > > >> > Opinions??? > >> > >> What putting a synthetic into an engine will do is > >> break down gunk that may be providing a seal and allow > >> some oil to leak through. This is an indication you need > >> to fix the seal or rebuild since engine seals shouldn't > >> rely on crud to prevent leaks. > >> > >> -- > >> DougW > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > <html><form><input type crash></form></html> > nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail |
Re: Opinions on Fram Toughguard oil filters?
That's a pretty good assessment (good movin' parts + good maintenance =
good whatever's in it). But, to put a little twist on an old, tired engine that doesn't leak yet, here's the idea. If you have tired seals that don't leak and weren't taken care of, the crankshaft, for example, can build up a film that will take up a gap that might exist between the crank and its seal. That film's what is called a "faux facade" or "false face". Don't ask me why they used French terms but it might have something to do with the marvels of French engineering:) Anyways, if you put a pure synthetic oil in the engine that does a great job at cleaning the moving parts, it'll clean that filmy layer right off the crank and leak a gap between it and the seal. Bam! It starts leaking. So, in your case, you're just fine because you've done a bang-up job at taking care of everything. But, in the case of a neglected engine, it may show you the spoiled fruits of lacking labor. It's just like this guy who swears by the Magical Mystical Voodoo Oil. My buddy swears by the stuff and says that his motor is in great shape because he adds it at every 3,000 mile oil change... Well, DUH! I think you could swap out Brent sweet crude every 3,000 and have a good motor:) o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message news:4026ddfe_1@nntp2.nac.net... > I put mobil 1 in my YJ when I bought it at 189000 miles not leaking oil and > it still doesn't leak oil at 194000 or so miles. If it didn't leak in the > first place, it shouldn't leak afterwards. See the oem website for this. > The oil was changed every 3000 miles by the PO so I guess it all depends > on who owned it and how they maintained it. > > > In article <bvn5p702str@enews2.newsguy.com>, <Skip> wrote: > >yeah that was my thought... > > > >-- > >Skip > > > > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > >news:0uETb.29125$L_4.15052@okepread01... > >> Skip did pass the time by typing: > >> > I hear if you put Mobil 1 into a high miles engine it will introduce > >leaks > >> > in the seals... > >> > > >> > Opinions??? > >> > >> What putting a synthetic into an engine will do is > >> break down gunk that may be providing a seal and allow > >> some oil to leak through. This is an indication you need > >> to fix the seal or rebuild since engine seals shouldn't > >> rely on crud to prevent leaks. > >> > >> -- > >> DougW > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > <html><form><input type crash></form></html> > nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail |
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