Old Jeep drivers beware!
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:CcOdnXNGnf41c_HZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Yes good point, I have seen an oil pump screen clog up and the next thing
> the engine was naturally aspirated from the oil pan.
> Coasty
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:446cde68$0$24279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > It is advisable to learn what you are up against first. Take off a
valve
> > cover, and if it is packed solid with sludge (I have seen this) then
maybe
> > you don't want to try flushing it with a solvent. That's because, when
it
> > loosens up, it is going to circulate all over before you drain it. For
> > light sludge deposits, solvents are fine, but the really heavy ones
should
> > be dug out by hand.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> > news:w8qdnYJlP7PnR_HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind that stuff will clean an engine faster
> > than
> >> a whippoorwills butt in choke cherry season.
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-hL4vBpMB0UnJ@anon.none.net...
> >> > You certainly see the picture. The practices I learned from my old
> >> > man and passed on to my offspring included that of changing every
> >> > fluid in a "new" used vehicle as soon as I got it home. If there was
> >> > any doubt at all, that included a quart of kerosene in the engine,
> >> > idle for 10 minutes, then drain while hot. Amazing how much gunk
> >> > glopped out of the pan - and I started that practice nearly 50 years
> >> > ago - back when spin-on oil filters were nowhere to be seen.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:28:42 UTC "Earle Horton"
> >> > <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How is this different from thirty years ago, when my second hand
1964
> >> >> Plymouth Valiant came to me with a good inch of sludge in the pan?
> >> >> And
> >> >> how
> >> >> come this batch of complaints only seems to involve Saab, DC,
> >> >> Toyota/Lexus
> >> >> and VW/Audi?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tend to use a longer oil change interval myself, but I drive the
> >> >> vehicle
> >> >> fifty miles once I fire it up, and I drain the oil when it is good
and
> >> >> hot
> >> >> (Ouch!) As I understand it, these conditions minimize sludge or oil
> > gel
> >> >> buildup. Many people don't do this.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "dipstick" is like Earl and his brother Randy, Larry his brother
> > Daryl
> >> >> and
> >> >> his other brother Daryl, or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, right? ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:L6-dnSYx1KrH1PHZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Coasty's Sludge Theory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sludge only became a problem when as Bill has shown the
> >> >> > Manufacturers
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > increased their oil change intervals and as I may add under
pressure
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the Federal Government (Green Weenies). The other problem is the
> >> >> > oil
> >> >> > technology just recently caught up Mobile 1 extended mileage
> >> >> > formula.
> >> >> > Manufacturers are very fuzzy in their oil change intervals and the
> >> >> majority
> >> >> > of consumers do not keep proper records of work done and often do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > proper maintenance. An example of this is the turn and go
attitude
> > of
> >> >> many
> >> >> > people, no checks, on oil changes, no maintenance of any kind. I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > all the time I work at a college and out of 2000 students very few
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > maintenance on their vehicle and not to pick on any one gender
but,
> > the
> >> >> > women are the biggest offender. The other big problem is that
many
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > do not even have a clue what a dipstick is let alone where it is
> >> >> > located.
> >> >> > Growing up my dad passed down the knowledge of vehicle
maintenance
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn passed it down to my sons. Today the majority of parents do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > on any vehicle maintenance and this is evident on what I see at
the
> >> >> college.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Coasty
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:446c03a8$0$6046$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >> > > Thanks. I know Gary will get a kick out of these.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "It can cost as much as $12,000 to replace an engine"! Heh, it
> > cost
> >> >> > > me
> >> >> > > $5,000 to replace a Chevy 350 with a new factory engine, at the
> >> >> > > dealer
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > Fort Collins, CO. I told them to go to town buying spark plugs,
> >> >> > > water
> >> >> > > pump,
> >> >> > > oil cooler, anything they wanted. That was in 2001. How does
one
> >> >> > > spend
> >> >> > > $12,000 on a V6 or an I4 engine?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I remember one of my first cars, a 1964 Plymouth Valiant, which
> >> >> > > appeared
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > have a three quart oil pan for a while. After a rod let go I
> >> >> > > found
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > reason.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:446BFCE2.FF47C8BE@***.net...
> >> >> > >> Chrysler sludge warranty? <ROTFLMAO>
> >> >> > >> http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=122&did=1113
> >> >> > >> http://www.datatown.com/chrysler/
> >> >> > >> http://www.dontbuyone.org/contact.htm
> >> >> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >> > >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A friend's Lexus developed engine sludge, that blocked the
oil
> >> >> pickup.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > >> > had followed all the recommended maintenance intervals. His
> >> >> > >> > favorite
> >> >> > >> > mechanic found an article, that described this as some sort
of
> >> >> > > compatibility
> >> >> > >> > problem, between the new motor oil and the "old" Lexus engine
> >> >> > >> > design.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > >> > car is in Albuquerque now, getting the repairs at Lexus'
> > expense.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > >> > repair bill is $10,000. Supposedly there are thousands of
> >> >> > >> > cases
> >> >> > >> > like
> >> >> > > this.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > I don't have more data, because the friend is more of a chef
> > than
> >> >> > >> > a
> >> >> > >> > mechanic. But he was pretty clear about the engine seizing
up,
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> car
> >> >> > >> > being towed to Albuquerque, and numerous calls to
manufacturer
> >> >> > >> > reps.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>
>
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cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:CcOdnXNGnf41c_HZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Yes good point, I have seen an oil pump screen clog up and the next thing
> the engine was naturally aspirated from the oil pan.
> Coasty
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:446cde68$0$24279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > It is advisable to learn what you are up against first. Take off a
valve
> > cover, and if it is packed solid with sludge (I have seen this) then
maybe
> > you don't want to try flushing it with a solvent. That's because, when
it
> > loosens up, it is going to circulate all over before you drain it. For
> > light sludge deposits, solvents are fine, but the really heavy ones
should
> > be dug out by hand.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> > news:w8qdnYJlP7PnR_HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind that stuff will clean an engine faster
> > than
> >> a whippoorwills butt in choke cherry season.
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-hL4vBpMB0UnJ@anon.none.net...
> >> > You certainly see the picture. The practices I learned from my old
> >> > man and passed on to my offspring included that of changing every
> >> > fluid in a "new" used vehicle as soon as I got it home. If there was
> >> > any doubt at all, that included a quart of kerosene in the engine,
> >> > idle for 10 minutes, then drain while hot. Amazing how much gunk
> >> > glopped out of the pan - and I started that practice nearly 50 years
> >> > ago - back when spin-on oil filters were nowhere to be seen.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:28:42 UTC "Earle Horton"
> >> > <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How is this different from thirty years ago, when my second hand
1964
> >> >> Plymouth Valiant came to me with a good inch of sludge in the pan?
> >> >> And
> >> >> how
> >> >> come this batch of complaints only seems to involve Saab, DC,
> >> >> Toyota/Lexus
> >> >> and VW/Audi?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tend to use a longer oil change interval myself, but I drive the
> >> >> vehicle
> >> >> fifty miles once I fire it up, and I drain the oil when it is good
and
> >> >> hot
> >> >> (Ouch!) As I understand it, these conditions minimize sludge or oil
> > gel
> >> >> buildup. Many people don't do this.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "dipstick" is like Earl and his brother Randy, Larry his brother
> > Daryl
> >> >> and
> >> >> his other brother Daryl, or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, right? ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:L6-dnSYx1KrH1PHZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Coasty's Sludge Theory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sludge only became a problem when as Bill has shown the
> >> >> > Manufacturers
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > increased their oil change intervals and as I may add under
pressure
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the Federal Government (Green Weenies). The other problem is the
> >> >> > oil
> >> >> > technology just recently caught up Mobile 1 extended mileage
> >> >> > formula.
> >> >> > Manufacturers are very fuzzy in their oil change intervals and the
> >> >> majority
> >> >> > of consumers do not keep proper records of work done and often do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > proper maintenance. An example of this is the turn and go
attitude
> > of
> >> >> many
> >> >> > people, no checks, on oil changes, no maintenance of any kind. I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > all the time I work at a college and out of 2000 students very few
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > maintenance on their vehicle and not to pick on any one gender
but,
> > the
> >> >> > women are the biggest offender. The other big problem is that
many
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > do not even have a clue what a dipstick is let alone where it is
> >> >> > located.
> >> >> > Growing up my dad passed down the knowledge of vehicle
maintenance
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn passed it down to my sons. Today the majority of parents do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > on any vehicle maintenance and this is evident on what I see at
the
> >> >> college.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Coasty
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:446c03a8$0$6046$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >> > > Thanks. I know Gary will get a kick out of these.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "It can cost as much as $12,000 to replace an engine"! Heh, it
> > cost
> >> >> > > me
> >> >> > > $5,000 to replace a Chevy 350 with a new factory engine, at the
> >> >> > > dealer
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > Fort Collins, CO. I told them to go to town buying spark plugs,
> >> >> > > water
> >> >> > > pump,
> >> >> > > oil cooler, anything they wanted. That was in 2001. How does
one
> >> >> > > spend
> >> >> > > $12,000 on a V6 or an I4 engine?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I remember one of my first cars, a 1964 Plymouth Valiant, which
> >> >> > > appeared
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > have a three quart oil pan for a while. After a rod let go I
> >> >> > > found
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > reason.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:446BFCE2.FF47C8BE@***.net...
> >> >> > >> Chrysler sludge warranty? <ROTFLMAO>
> >> >> > >> http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=122&did=1113
> >> >> > >> http://www.datatown.com/chrysler/
> >> >> > >> http://www.dontbuyone.org/contact.htm
> >> >> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >> > >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A friend's Lexus developed engine sludge, that blocked the
oil
> >> >> pickup.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > >> > had followed all the recommended maintenance intervals. His
> >> >> > >> > favorite
> >> >> > >> > mechanic found an article, that described this as some sort
of
> >> >> > > compatibility
> >> >> > >> > problem, between the new motor oil and the "old" Lexus engine
> >> >> > >> > design.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > >> > car is in Albuquerque now, getting the repairs at Lexus'
> > expense.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > >> > repair bill is $10,000. Supposedly there are thousands of
> >> >> > >> > cases
> >> >> > >> > like
> >> >> > > this.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > I don't have more data, because the friend is more of a chef
> > than
> >> >> > >> > a
> >> >> > >> > mechanic. But he was pretty clear about the engine seizing
up,
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> car
> >> >> > >> > being towed to Albuquerque, and numerous calls to
manufacturer
> >> >> > >> > reps.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>
>
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:CcOdnXNGnf41c_HZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Yes good point, I have seen an oil pump screen clog up and the next thing
> the engine was naturally aspirated from the oil pan.
> Coasty
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:446cde68$0$24279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > It is advisable to learn what you are up against first. Take off a
valve
> > cover, and if it is packed solid with sludge (I have seen this) then
maybe
> > you don't want to try flushing it with a solvent. That's because, when
it
> > loosens up, it is going to circulate all over before you drain it. For
> > light sludge deposits, solvents are fine, but the really heavy ones
should
> > be dug out by hand.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> > news:w8qdnYJlP7PnR_HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind that stuff will clean an engine faster
> > than
> >> a whippoorwills butt in choke cherry season.
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-hL4vBpMB0UnJ@anon.none.net...
> >> > You certainly see the picture. The practices I learned from my old
> >> > man and passed on to my offspring included that of changing every
> >> > fluid in a "new" used vehicle as soon as I got it home. If there was
> >> > any doubt at all, that included a quart of kerosene in the engine,
> >> > idle for 10 minutes, then drain while hot. Amazing how much gunk
> >> > glopped out of the pan - and I started that practice nearly 50 years
> >> > ago - back when spin-on oil filters were nowhere to be seen.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:28:42 UTC "Earle Horton"
> >> > <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How is this different from thirty years ago, when my second hand
1964
> >> >> Plymouth Valiant came to me with a good inch of sludge in the pan?
> >> >> And
> >> >> how
> >> >> come this batch of complaints only seems to involve Saab, DC,
> >> >> Toyota/Lexus
> >> >> and VW/Audi?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tend to use a longer oil change interval myself, but I drive the
> >> >> vehicle
> >> >> fifty miles once I fire it up, and I drain the oil when it is good
and
> >> >> hot
> >> >> (Ouch!) As I understand it, these conditions minimize sludge or oil
> > gel
> >> >> buildup. Many people don't do this.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "dipstick" is like Earl and his brother Randy, Larry his brother
> > Daryl
> >> >> and
> >> >> his other brother Daryl, or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, right? ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:L6-dnSYx1KrH1PHZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Coasty's Sludge Theory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sludge only became a problem when as Bill has shown the
> >> >> > Manufacturers
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > increased their oil change intervals and as I may add under
pressure
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the Federal Government (Green Weenies). The other problem is the
> >> >> > oil
> >> >> > technology just recently caught up Mobile 1 extended mileage
> >> >> > formula.
> >> >> > Manufacturers are very fuzzy in their oil change intervals and the
> >> >> majority
> >> >> > of consumers do not keep proper records of work done and often do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > proper maintenance. An example of this is the turn and go
attitude
> > of
> >> >> many
> >> >> > people, no checks, on oil changes, no maintenance of any kind. I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > all the time I work at a college and out of 2000 students very few
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > maintenance on their vehicle and not to pick on any one gender
but,
> > the
> >> >> > women are the biggest offender. The other big problem is that
many
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > do not even have a clue what a dipstick is let alone where it is
> >> >> > located.
> >> >> > Growing up my dad passed down the knowledge of vehicle
maintenance
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn passed it down to my sons. Today the majority of parents do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > on any vehicle maintenance and this is evident on what I see at
the
> >> >> college.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Coasty
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:446c03a8$0$6046$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >> > > Thanks. I know Gary will get a kick out of these.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "It can cost as much as $12,000 to replace an engine"! Heh, it
> > cost
> >> >> > > me
> >> >> > > $5,000 to replace a Chevy 350 with a new factory engine, at the
> >> >> > > dealer
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > Fort Collins, CO. I told them to go to town buying spark plugs,
> >> >> > > water
> >> >> > > pump,
> >> >> > > oil cooler, anything they wanted. That was in 2001. How does
one
> >> >> > > spend
> >> >> > > $12,000 on a V6 or an I4 engine?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I remember one of my first cars, a 1964 Plymouth Valiant, which
> >> >> > > appeared
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > have a three quart oil pan for a while. After a rod let go I
> >> >> > > found
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > reason.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:446BFCE2.FF47C8BE@***.net...
> >> >> > >> Chrysler sludge warranty? <ROTFLMAO>
> >> >> > >> http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=122&did=1113
> >> >> > >> http://www.datatown.com/chrysler/
> >> >> > >> http://www.dontbuyone.org/contact.htm
> >> >> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >> > >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A friend's Lexus developed engine sludge, that blocked the
oil
> >> >> pickup.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > >> > had followed all the recommended maintenance intervals. His
> >> >> > >> > favorite
> >> >> > >> > mechanic found an article, that described this as some sort
of
> >> >> > > compatibility
> >> >> > >> > problem, between the new motor oil and the "old" Lexus engine
> >> >> > >> > design.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > >> > car is in Albuquerque now, getting the repairs at Lexus'
> > expense.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > >> > repair bill is $10,000. Supposedly there are thousands of
> >> >> > >> > cases
> >> >> > >> > like
> >> >> > > this.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > I don't have more data, because the friend is more of a chef
> > than
> >> >> > >> > a
> >> >> > >> > mechanic. But he was pretty clear about the engine seizing
up,
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> car
> >> >> > >> > being towed to Albuquerque, and numerous calls to
manufacturer
> >> >> > >> > reps.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>
>
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:CcOdnXNGnf41c_HZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Yes good point, I have seen an oil pump screen clog up and the next thing
> the engine was naturally aspirated from the oil pan.
> Coasty
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:446cde68$0$24279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > It is advisable to learn what you are up against first. Take off a
valve
> > cover, and if it is packed solid with sludge (I have seen this) then
maybe
> > you don't want to try flushing it with a solvent. That's because, when
it
> > loosens up, it is going to circulate all over before you drain it. For
> > light sludge deposits, solvents are fine, but the really heavy ones
should
> > be dug out by hand.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> > news:w8qdnYJlP7PnR_HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind that stuff will clean an engine faster
> > than
> >> a whippoorwills butt in choke cherry season.
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-hL4vBpMB0UnJ@anon.none.net...
> >> > You certainly see the picture. The practices I learned from my old
> >> > man and passed on to my offspring included that of changing every
> >> > fluid in a "new" used vehicle as soon as I got it home. If there was
> >> > any doubt at all, that included a quart of kerosene in the engine,
> >> > idle for 10 minutes, then drain while hot. Amazing how much gunk
> >> > glopped out of the pan - and I started that practice nearly 50 years
> >> > ago - back when spin-on oil filters were nowhere to be seen.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:28:42 UTC "Earle Horton"
> >> > <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How is this different from thirty years ago, when my second hand
1964
> >> >> Plymouth Valiant came to me with a good inch of sludge in the pan?
> >> >> And
> >> >> how
> >> >> come this batch of complaints only seems to involve Saab, DC,
> >> >> Toyota/Lexus
> >> >> and VW/Audi?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tend to use a longer oil change interval myself, but I drive the
> >> >> vehicle
> >> >> fifty miles once I fire it up, and I drain the oil when it is good
and
> >> >> hot
> >> >> (Ouch!) As I understand it, these conditions minimize sludge or oil
> > gel
> >> >> buildup. Many people don't do this.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "dipstick" is like Earl and his brother Randy, Larry his brother
> > Daryl
> >> >> and
> >> >> his other brother Daryl, or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, right? ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:L6-dnSYx1KrH1PHZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Coasty's Sludge Theory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sludge only became a problem when as Bill has shown the
> >> >> > Manufacturers
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > increased their oil change intervals and as I may add under
pressure
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the Federal Government (Green Weenies). The other problem is the
> >> >> > oil
> >> >> > technology just recently caught up Mobile 1 extended mileage
> >> >> > formula.
> >> >> > Manufacturers are very fuzzy in their oil change intervals and the
> >> >> majority
> >> >> > of consumers do not keep proper records of work done and often do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > proper maintenance. An example of this is the turn and go
attitude
> > of
> >> >> many
> >> >> > people, no checks, on oil changes, no maintenance of any kind. I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > all the time I work at a college and out of 2000 students very few
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > maintenance on their vehicle and not to pick on any one gender
but,
> > the
> >> >> > women are the biggest offender. The other big problem is that
many
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > do not even have a clue what a dipstick is let alone where it is
> >> >> > located.
> >> >> > Growing up my dad passed down the knowledge of vehicle
maintenance
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn passed it down to my sons. Today the majority of parents do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > on any vehicle maintenance and this is evident on what I see at
the
> >> >> college.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Coasty
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:446c03a8$0$6046$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >> > > Thanks. I know Gary will get a kick out of these.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "It can cost as much as $12,000 to replace an engine"! Heh, it
> > cost
> >> >> > > me
> >> >> > > $5,000 to replace a Chevy 350 with a new factory engine, at the
> >> >> > > dealer
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > Fort Collins, CO. I told them to go to town buying spark plugs,
> >> >> > > water
> >> >> > > pump,
> >> >> > > oil cooler, anything they wanted. That was in 2001. How does
one
> >> >> > > spend
> >> >> > > $12,000 on a V6 or an I4 engine?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I remember one of my first cars, a 1964 Plymouth Valiant, which
> >> >> > > appeared
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > have a three quart oil pan for a while. After a rod let go I
> >> >> > > found
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > reason.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:446BFCE2.FF47C8BE@***.net...
> >> >> > >> Chrysler sludge warranty? <ROTFLMAO>
> >> >> > >> http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=122&did=1113
> >> >> > >> http://www.datatown.com/chrysler/
> >> >> > >> http://www.dontbuyone.org/contact.htm
> >> >> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >> > >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A friend's Lexus developed engine sludge, that blocked the
oil
> >> >> pickup.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > >> > had followed all the recommended maintenance intervals. His
> >> >> > >> > favorite
> >> >> > >> > mechanic found an article, that described this as some sort
of
> >> >> > > compatibility
> >> >> > >> > problem, between the new motor oil and the "old" Lexus engine
> >> >> > >> > design.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > >> > car is in Albuquerque now, getting the repairs at Lexus'
> > expense.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > >> > repair bill is $10,000. Supposedly there are thousands of
> >> >> > >> > cases
> >> >> > >> > like
> >> >> > > this.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > I don't have more data, because the friend is more of a chef
> > than
> >> >> > >> > a
> >> >> > >> > mechanic. But he was pretty clear about the engine seizing
up,
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> car
> >> >> > >> > being towed to Albuquerque, and numerous calls to
manufacturer
> >> >> > >> > reps.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>
>
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:CcOdnXNGnf41c_HZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Yes good point, I have seen an oil pump screen clog up and the next thing
> the engine was naturally aspirated from the oil pan.
> Coasty
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:446cde68$0$24279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > It is advisable to learn what you are up against first. Take off a
valve
> > cover, and if it is packed solid with sludge (I have seen this) then
maybe
> > you don't want to try flushing it with a solvent. That's because, when
it
> > loosens up, it is going to circulate all over before you drain it. For
> > light sludge deposits, solvents are fine, but the really heavy ones
should
> > be dug out by hand.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> > news:w8qdnYJlP7PnR_HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind that stuff will clean an engine faster
> > than
> >> a whippoorwills butt in choke cherry season.
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-hL4vBpMB0UnJ@anon.none.net...
> >> > You certainly see the picture. The practices I learned from my old
> >> > man and passed on to my offspring included that of changing every
> >> > fluid in a "new" used vehicle as soon as I got it home. If there was
> >> > any doubt at all, that included a quart of kerosene in the engine,
> >> > idle for 10 minutes, then drain while hot. Amazing how much gunk
> >> > glopped out of the pan - and I started that practice nearly 50 years
> >> > ago - back when spin-on oil filters were nowhere to be seen.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:28:42 UTC "Earle Horton"
> >> > <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How is this different from thirty years ago, when my second hand
1964
> >> >> Plymouth Valiant came to me with a good inch of sludge in the pan?
> >> >> And
> >> >> how
> >> >> come this batch of complaints only seems to involve Saab, DC,
> >> >> Toyota/Lexus
> >> >> and VW/Audi?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tend to use a longer oil change interval myself, but I drive the
> >> >> vehicle
> >> >> fifty miles once I fire it up, and I drain the oil when it is good
and
> >> >> hot
> >> >> (Ouch!) As I understand it, these conditions minimize sludge or oil
> > gel
> >> >> buildup. Many people don't do this.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "dipstick" is like Earl and his brother Randy, Larry his brother
> > Daryl
> >> >> and
> >> >> his other brother Daryl, or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, right? ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:L6-dnSYx1KrH1PHZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Coasty's Sludge Theory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sludge only became a problem when as Bill has shown the
> >> >> > Manufacturers
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > increased their oil change intervals and as I may add under
pressure
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the Federal Government (Green Weenies). The other problem is the
> >> >> > oil
> >> >> > technology just recently caught up Mobile 1 extended mileage
> >> >> > formula.
> >> >> > Manufacturers are very fuzzy in their oil change intervals and the
> >> >> majority
> >> >> > of consumers do not keep proper records of work done and often do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > proper maintenance. An example of this is the turn and go
attitude
> > of
> >> >> many
> >> >> > people, no checks, on oil changes, no maintenance of any kind. I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > all the time I work at a college and out of 2000 students very few
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > maintenance on their vehicle and not to pick on any one gender
but,
> > the
> >> >> > women are the biggest offender. The other big problem is that
many
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > do not even have a clue what a dipstick is let alone where it is
> >> >> > located.
> >> >> > Growing up my dad passed down the knowledge of vehicle
maintenance
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn passed it down to my sons. Today the majority of parents do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > on any vehicle maintenance and this is evident on what I see at
the
> >> >> college.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Coasty
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:446c03a8$0$6046$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >> > > Thanks. I know Gary will get a kick out of these.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "It can cost as much as $12,000 to replace an engine"! Heh, it
> > cost
> >> >> > > me
> >> >> > > $5,000 to replace a Chevy 350 with a new factory engine, at the
> >> >> > > dealer
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > Fort Collins, CO. I told them to go to town buying spark plugs,
> >> >> > > water
> >> >> > > pump,
> >> >> > > oil cooler, anything they wanted. That was in 2001. How does
one
> >> >> > > spend
> >> >> > > $12,000 on a V6 or an I4 engine?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I remember one of my first cars, a 1964 Plymouth Valiant, which
> >> >> > > appeared
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > have a three quart oil pan for a while. After a rod let go I
> >> >> > > found
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > reason.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:446BFCE2.FF47C8BE@***.net...
> >> >> > >> Chrysler sludge warranty? <ROTFLMAO>
> >> >> > >> http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=122&did=1113
> >> >> > >> http://www.datatown.com/chrysler/
> >> >> > >> http://www.dontbuyone.org/contact.htm
> >> >> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >> > >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A friend's Lexus developed engine sludge, that blocked the
oil
> >> >> pickup.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > >> > had followed all the recommended maintenance intervals. His
> >> >> > >> > favorite
> >> >> > >> > mechanic found an article, that described this as some sort
of
> >> >> > > compatibility
> >> >> > >> > problem, between the new motor oil and the "old" Lexus engine
> >> >> > >> > design.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > >> > car is in Albuquerque now, getting the repairs at Lexus'
> > expense.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > >> > repair bill is $10,000. Supposedly there are thousands of
> >> >> > >> > cases
> >> >> > >> > like
> >> >> > > this.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > I don't have more data, because the friend is more of a chef
> > than
> >> >> > >> > a
> >> >> > >> > mechanic. But he was pretty clear about the engine seizing
up,
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> car
> >> >> > >> > being towed to Albuquerque, and numerous calls to
manufacturer
> >> >> > >> > reps.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>
>
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cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:CcOdnXNGnf41c_HZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Yes good point, I have seen an oil pump screen clog up and the next thing
> the engine was naturally aspirated from the oil pan.
> Coasty
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:446cde68$0$24279$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > It is advisable to learn what you are up against first. Take off a
valve
> > cover, and if it is packed solid with sludge (I have seen this) then
maybe
> > you don't want to try flushing it with a solvent. That's because, when
it
> > loosens up, it is going to circulate all over before you drain it. For
> > light sludge deposits, solvents are fine, but the really heavy ones
should
> > be dug out by hand.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> > news:w8qdnYJlP7PnR_HZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Marvel Mystery Oil comes to mind that stuff will clean an engine faster
> > than
> >> a whippoorwills butt in choke cherry season.
> >> Coasty
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-hL4vBpMB0UnJ@anon.none.net...
> >> > You certainly see the picture. The practices I learned from my old
> >> > man and passed on to my offspring included that of changing every
> >> > fluid in a "new" used vehicle as soon as I got it home. If there was
> >> > any doubt at all, that included a quart of kerosene in the engine,
> >> > idle for 10 minutes, then drain while hot. Amazing how much gunk
> >> > glopped out of the pan - and I started that practice nearly 50 years
> >> > ago - back when spin-on oil filters were nowhere to be seen.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:28:42 UTC "Earle Horton"
> >> > <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How is this different from thirty years ago, when my second hand
1964
> >> >> Plymouth Valiant came to me with a good inch of sludge in the pan?
> >> >> And
> >> >> how
> >> >> come this batch of complaints only seems to involve Saab, DC,
> >> >> Toyota/Lexus
> >> >> and VW/Audi?
> >> >>
> >> >> I tend to use a longer oil change interval myself, but I drive the
> >> >> vehicle
> >> >> fifty miles once I fire it up, and I drain the oil when it is good
and
> >> >> hot
> >> >> (Ouch!) As I understand it, these conditions minimize sludge or oil
> > gel
> >> >> buildup. Many people don't do this.
> >> >>
> >> >> A "dipstick" is like Earl and his brother Randy, Larry his brother
> > Daryl
> >> >> and
> >> >> his other brother Daryl, or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, right? ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:L6-dnSYx1KrH1PHZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Coasty's Sludge Theory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sludge only became a problem when as Bill has shown the
> >> >> > Manufacturers
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > increased their oil change intervals and as I may add under
pressure
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the Federal Government (Green Weenies). The other problem is the
> >> >> > oil
> >> >> > technology just recently caught up Mobile 1 extended mileage
> >> >> > formula.
> >> >> > Manufacturers are very fuzzy in their oil change intervals and the
> >> >> majority
> >> >> > of consumers do not keep proper records of work done and often do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > proper maintenance. An example of this is the turn and go
attitude
> > of
> >> >> many
> >> >> > people, no checks, on oil changes, no maintenance of any kind. I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > all the time I work at a college and out of 2000 students very few
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > maintenance on their vehicle and not to pick on any one gender
but,
> > the
> >> >> > women are the biggest offender. The other big problem is that
many
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > do not even have a clue what a dipstick is let alone where it is
> >> >> > located.
> >> >> > Growing up my dad passed down the knowledge of vehicle
maintenance
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn passed it down to my sons. Today the majority of parents do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > pass
> >> >> > on any vehicle maintenance and this is evident on what I see at
the
> >> >> college.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Coasty
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:446c03a8$0$6046$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >> > > Thanks. I know Gary will get a kick out of these.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "It can cost as much as $12,000 to replace an engine"! Heh, it
> > cost
> >> >> > > me
> >> >> > > $5,000 to replace a Chevy 350 with a new factory engine, at the
> >> >> > > dealer
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > Fort Collins, CO. I told them to go to town buying spark plugs,
> >> >> > > water
> >> >> > > pump,
> >> >> > > oil cooler, anything they wanted. That was in 2001. How does
one
> >> >> > > spend
> >> >> > > $12,000 on a V6 or an I4 engine?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I remember one of my first cars, a 1964 Plymouth Valiant, which
> >> >> > > appeared
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > have a three quart oil pan for a while. After a rod let go I
> >> >> > > found
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > reason.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:446BFCE2.FF47C8BE@***.net...
> >> >> > >> Chrysler sludge warranty? <ROTFLMAO>
> >> >> > >> http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=122&did=1113
> >> >> > >> http://www.datatown.com/chrysler/
> >> >> > >> http://www.dontbuyone.org/contact.htm
> >> >> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> >> > >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A friend's Lexus developed engine sludge, that blocked the
oil
> >> >> pickup.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > >> > had followed all the recommended maintenance intervals. His
> >> >> > >> > favorite
> >> >> > >> > mechanic found an article, that described this as some sort
of
> >> >> > > compatibility
> >> >> > >> > problem, between the new motor oil and the "old" Lexus engine
> >> >> > >> > design.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > >> > car is in Albuquerque now, getting the repairs at Lexus'
> > expense.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > >> > repair bill is $10,000. Supposedly there are thousands of
> >> >> > >> > cases
> >> >> > >> > like
> >> >> > > this.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > I don't have more data, because the friend is more of a chef
> > than
> >> >> > >> > a
> >> >> > >> > mechanic. But he was pretty clear about the engine seizing
up,
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> car
> >> >> > >> > being towed to Albuquerque, and numerous calls to
manufacturer
> >> >> > >> > reps.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>
>
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#44
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
again.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>
> Earle
block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
again.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>
> Earle
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
again.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>
> Earle
block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
again.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>
> Earle
#46
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
again.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>
> Earle
block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
again.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>
> Earle
#47
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
One of my sea stories that almost was, is a 12 cylinder GE engine about a
story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
from the 500 gallon sump.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
> block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
> anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
> again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
>> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>>
>> Earle
story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
from the 500 gallon sump.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446D02EF.2D6A9A39@***.net...
> I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
> block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
> anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
> again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
>> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>>
>> Earle
#48
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
One of my sea stories that almost was, is a 12 cylinder GE engine about a
story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
from the 500 gallon sump.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446D02EF.2D6A9A39@***.net...
> I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
> block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
> anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
> again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
>> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>>
>> Earle
story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
from the 500 gallon sump.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446D02EF.2D6A9A39@***.net...
> I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
> block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
> anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
> again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
>> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>>
>> Earle
#49
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
One of my sea stories that almost was, is a 12 cylinder GE engine about a
story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
from the 500 gallon sump.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446D02EF.2D6A9A39@***.net...
> I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
> block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
> anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
> again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
>> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>>
>> Earle
story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
from the 500 gallon sump.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446D02EF.2D6A9A39@***.net...
> I've done that a couple of times, driven a Buick V6 and Chevy small
> block 400" back to camp with water coming out the dip stick, it's trash
> anyway, just have to know once you kill it it's not going to start
> again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> I can beat that. I saw a Ford 5000 diesel farm tractor with one of the
>> cylinders aspirated into the water jacket. It still ran.
>>
>> Earle
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Re: Old Jeep drivers beware!
I haven't heard of it in newer than forty year old diesel trucks,
but the used to have run-a-ways. Where the engine would begin to suck
the oil past the rings. The reason why we never parked them in gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> One of my sea stories that almost was, is a 12 cylinder GE engine about a
> story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
> rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
> intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
> strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
> to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
> turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
> from the 500 gallon sump.
>
> Coasty
but the used to have run-a-ways. Where the engine would begin to suck
the oil past the rings. The reason why we never parked them in gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> One of my sea stories that almost was, is a 12 cylinder GE engine about a
> story tall 2000 shaft HP decided not to stop winding up. It hit about 4500
> rpm and I grabbed a 50 lb co2 fire extinguisher and emptied into the 16 inch
> intake that shut it down. If the thing had parted I would have been
> strained through the deck greats let alone a naturally aspirated ship hull
> to the water. We discovered the oil line had clogged up that lubricated the
> turbo so the least path of resistance the turbo started sucking lube oil
> from the 500 gallon sump.
>
> Coasty