More New Scrambler Details
#221
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
what is ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
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#222
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
> if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
>
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Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
> if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
>
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My governor can kick your governor's ***
#223
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
> if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
>
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
> if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
>
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#224
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Only for the first few feet with a blower... if that long.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
> if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
>
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
Approximately 10/10/03 12:04, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
> if it's not spun up, you are driving a 8:1 low compression engine..
>
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#225
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
You still get adiabatic heating just from compressing the air, which
is where the significant heat in an exhaust turbocharger style comes
from as well. Only time you get much heat transfer with an exhauster
is at low speed and idle...where it cokes your turbo bearings
regularly if you don't give it a cooldown or use watercooling for
them.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:44, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Hi Steve,
> I don't know anyone that runs an intercooler with a pump. It's not
> like Doug's pre heating the intake air through a two thousand degree
> exhaust.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Goat Crapp wrote:
>>
>> wow you run a non intercooled setup? how much boost aqre you running? thats a
>> nice compression for f/i but i would still be nervous without any sort of
>> intercooling.
>>
>> if its space constraints, you can run a small water to air setup.. costs will
>> be around 200 if you can weld aluminum (for the casing) youself.. with a 2
>> gallon setup, a small 6x8x2" core should be sufficient since as you say, your
>> particular s/c isnt heating up the air too much (any idea exactl;y how much? i
>> know turbo's can add 70-100 degrees to the intake charge depending on boost,
>> but a properly intercooled air-to-air setup will return that back to within 10*
>> of ambient. a w/a is good for low boost since its more consistent, less
>> dependant on vehicle motion... but wont cool it off AS much as a large a/a.
>> *(unless you run a water/aclch mixture, and pre-cool it, with an ice chamber,
>> etc)
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#226
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
You still get adiabatic heating just from compressing the air, which
is where the significant heat in an exhaust turbocharger style comes
from as well. Only time you get much heat transfer with an exhauster
is at low speed and idle...where it cokes your turbo bearings
regularly if you don't give it a cooldown or use watercooling for
them.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:44, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Hi Steve,
> I don't know anyone that runs an intercooler with a pump. It's not
> like Doug's pre heating the intake air through a two thousand degree
> exhaust.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Goat Crapp wrote:
>>
>> wow you run a non intercooled setup? how much boost aqre you running? thats a
>> nice compression for f/i but i would still be nervous without any sort of
>> intercooling.
>>
>> if its space constraints, you can run a small water to air setup.. costs will
>> be around 200 if you can weld aluminum (for the casing) youself.. with a 2
>> gallon setup, a small 6x8x2" core should be sufficient since as you say, your
>> particular s/c isnt heating up the air too much (any idea exactl;y how much? i
>> know turbo's can add 70-100 degrees to the intake charge depending on boost,
>> but a properly intercooled air-to-air setup will return that back to within 10*
>> of ambient. a w/a is good for low boost since its more consistent, less
>> dependant on vehicle motion... but wont cool it off AS much as a large a/a.
>> *(unless you run a water/aclch mixture, and pre-cool it, with an ice chamber,
>> etc)
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#227
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
You still get adiabatic heating just from compressing the air, which
is where the significant heat in an exhaust turbocharger style comes
from as well. Only time you get much heat transfer with an exhauster
is at low speed and idle...where it cokes your turbo bearings
regularly if you don't give it a cooldown or use watercooling for
them.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:44, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Hi Steve,
> I don't know anyone that runs an intercooler with a pump. It's not
> like Doug's pre heating the intake air through a two thousand degree
> exhaust.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Goat Crapp wrote:
>>
>> wow you run a non intercooled setup? how much boost aqre you running? thats a
>> nice compression for f/i but i would still be nervous without any sort of
>> intercooling.
>>
>> if its space constraints, you can run a small water to air setup.. costs will
>> be around 200 if you can weld aluminum (for the casing) youself.. with a 2
>> gallon setup, a small 6x8x2" core should be sufficient since as you say, your
>> particular s/c isnt heating up the air too much (any idea exactl;y how much? i
>> know turbo's can add 70-100 degrees to the intake charge depending on boost,
>> but a properly intercooled air-to-air setup will return that back to within 10*
>> of ambient. a w/a is good for low boost since its more consistent, less
>> dependant on vehicle motion... but wont cool it off AS much as a large a/a.
>> *(unless you run a water/aclch mixture, and pre-cool it, with an ice chamber,
>> etc)
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#228
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Also keeps the tops of the pistons in one piece at higher
boost. A simple raise from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1 can cause severe
pinging unless you add a cooler or water with just 6-7 lbs
of boost.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:55, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> All super charged engines run low compression for greater volume.
> More gas, more air in the chamber equals more power.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> didn't make myself clear - I meant turbo engines in general (e.g. Ford
>> Cosworth, Subaru Imprezza turbo are both 8:1)
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
--
My governor can fondle your governor's ***
boost. A simple raise from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1 can cause severe
pinging unless you add a cooler or water with just 6-7 lbs
of boost.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:55, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> All super charged engines run low compression for greater volume.
> More gas, more air in the chamber equals more power.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> didn't make myself clear - I meant turbo engines in general (e.g. Ford
>> Cosworth, Subaru Imprezza turbo are both 8:1)
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
--
My governor can fondle your governor's ***
#229
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Also keeps the tops of the pistons in one piece at higher
boost. A simple raise from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1 can cause severe
pinging unless you add a cooler or water with just 6-7 lbs
of boost.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:55, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> All super charged engines run low compression for greater volume.
> More gas, more air in the chamber equals more power.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> didn't make myself clear - I meant turbo engines in general (e.g. Ford
>> Cosworth, Subaru Imprezza turbo are both 8:1)
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
--
My governor can fondle your governor's ***
boost. A simple raise from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1 can cause severe
pinging unless you add a cooler or water with just 6-7 lbs
of boost.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:55, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> All super charged engines run low compression for greater volume.
> More gas, more air in the chamber equals more power.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> didn't make myself clear - I meant turbo engines in general (e.g. Ford
>> Cosworth, Subaru Imprezza turbo are both 8:1)
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
--
My governor can fondle your governor's ***
#230
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Also keeps the tops of the pistons in one piece at higher
boost. A simple raise from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1 can cause severe
pinging unless you add a cooler or water with just 6-7 lbs
of boost.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:55, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> All super charged engines run low compression for greater volume.
> More gas, more air in the chamber equals more power.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> didn't make myself clear - I meant turbo engines in general (e.g. Ford
>> Cosworth, Subaru Imprezza turbo are both 8:1)
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
--
My governor can fondle your governor's ***
boost. A simple raise from 8.5:1 to 9.0:1 can cause severe
pinging unless you add a cooler or water with just 6-7 lbs
of boost.
Approximately 10/10/03 12:55, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> All super charged engines run low compression for greater volume.
> More gas, more air in the chamber equals more power.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> didn't make myself clear - I meant turbo engines in general (e.g. Ford
>> Cosworth, Subaru Imprezza turbo are both 8:1)
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
--
My governor can fondle your governor's ***