TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
smile on your ... pants.

http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F85B6E6.837A1192@***.net...
: So build the five hundred dollar (at the time) 427" to run only five
: hundred miles like an Indy car engine. I actully just finished watching
: the History channel's story on the AC Cobra and on it Carrol said "there
: can't be too large an engine for a sport car."
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Lon Stowell wrote:
: >
: > I'm pretty sure that is the accurate quote from Carroll Shelby.
: > Most folks tend to confuse it with trying to beat a 1.5 liter
: > F1 motor with a 300 cube overhead valve, which isn't what
: > he meant. You actually had to use a 427 cube motor with
: > OHC to beat a 1.5 liter F1 motor. Or a 60 cube rotary,
: > or a 36 cube equivalent turbine.

 

TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
smile on your ... pants.

http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F85B6E6.837A1192@***.net...
: So build the five hundred dollar (at the time) 427" to run only five
: hundred miles like an Indy car engine. I actully just finished watching
: the History channel's story on the AC Cobra and on it Carrol said "there
: can't be too large an engine for a sport car."
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Lon Stowell wrote:
: >
: > I'm pretty sure that is the accurate quote from Carroll Shelby.
: > Most folks tend to confuse it with trying to beat a 1.5 liter
: > F1 motor with a 300 cube overhead valve, which isn't what
: > he meant. You actually had to use a 427 cube motor with
: > OHC to beat a 1.5 liter F1 motor. Or a 60 cube rotary,
: > or a 36 cube equivalent turbine.

 

Other than that I can't afford even the XJR, I really would
have loved to see the Aston Martin V-12 in the new big
aluminum Jag sedan. Almost as much as I'd like to see
DC put a big honking diesel in the Grand Cherokee that
could beat that 303hp /553 lb-ft one that offers the fastest
0-60 performance and top speed [150+] in the Touareg. Screw
that wimpy Hemi.


Approximately 10/9/03 13:39, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:

> TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
> in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
> smile on your ... pants.
>
> http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F85B6E6.837A1192@***.net...
> : So build the five hundred dollar (at the time) 427" to run only five
> : hundred miles like an Indy car engine. I actully just finished watching
> : the History channel's story on the AC Cobra and on it Carrol said "there
> : can't be too large an engine for a sport car."
> : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> :
> : Lon Stowell wrote:
> : >
> : > I'm pretty sure that is the accurate quote from Carroll Shelby.
> : > Most folks tend to confuse it with trying to beat a 1.5 liter
> : > F1 motor with a 300 cube overhead valve, which isn't what
> : > he meant. You actually had to use a 427 cube motor with
> : > OHC to beat a 1.5 liter F1 motor. Or a 60 cube rotary,
> : > or a 36 cube equivalent turbine.
>
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

 

Other than that I can't afford even the XJR, I really would
have loved to see the Aston Martin V-12 in the new big
aluminum Jag sedan. Almost as much as I'd like to see
DC put a big honking diesel in the Grand Cherokee that
could beat that 303hp /553 lb-ft one that offers the fastest
0-60 performance and top speed [150+] in the Touareg. Screw
that wimpy Hemi.


Approximately 10/9/03 13:39, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:

> TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
> in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
> smile on your ... pants.
>
> http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F85B6E6.837A1192@***.net...
> : So build the five hundred dollar (at the time) 427" to run only five
> : hundred miles like an Indy car engine. I actully just finished watching
> : the History channel's story on the AC Cobra and on it Carrol said "there
> : can't be too large an engine for a sport car."
> : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> :
> : Lon Stowell wrote:
> : >
> : > I'm pretty sure that is the accurate quote from Carroll Shelby.
> : > Most folks tend to confuse it with trying to beat a 1.5 liter
> : > F1 motor with a 300 cube overhead valve, which isn't what
> : > he meant. You actually had to use a 427 cube motor with
> : > OHC to beat a 1.5 liter F1 motor. Or a 60 cube rotary,
> : > or a 36 cube equivalent turbine.
>
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

 

Other than that I can't afford even the XJR, I really would
have loved to see the Aston Martin V-12 in the new big
aluminum Jag sedan. Almost as much as I'd like to see
DC put a big honking diesel in the Grand Cherokee that
could beat that 303hp /553 lb-ft one that offers the fastest
0-60 performance and top speed [150+] in the Touareg. Screw
that wimpy Hemi.


Approximately 10/9/03 13:39, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:

> TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
> in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
> smile on your ... pants.
>
> http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F85B6E6.837A1192@***.net...
> : So build the five hundred dollar (at the time) 427" to run only five
> : hundred miles like an Indy car engine. I actully just finished watching
> : the History channel's story on the AC Cobra and on it Carrol said "there
> : can't be too large an engine for a sport car."
> : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> :
> : Lon Stowell wrote:
> : >
> : > I'm pretty sure that is the accurate quote from Carroll Shelby.
> : > Most folks tend to confuse it with trying to beat a 1.5 liter
> : > F1 motor with a 300 cube overhead valve, which isn't what
> : > he meant. You actually had to use a 427 cube motor with
> : > OHC to beat a 1.5 liter F1 motor. Or a 60 cube rotary,
> : > or a 36 cube equivalent turbine.
>
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

 

Is the "T" for testosterone? I've been in cars that got to a
hundred in nine seconds, that Ferrari must be pulling three gravities,
and incredible feeling. I wish I could fit in it, I came into some
money, and looked at the Bird, no way, my back won't bend any more, and
I was pushing two inches into it's top. :-(
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
> in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
> smile on your ... pants.
>
> http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

 

Is the "T" for testosterone? I've been in cars that got to a
hundred in nine seconds, that Ferrari must be pulling three gravities,
and incredible feeling. I wish I could fit in it, I came into some
money, and looked at the Bird, no way, my back won't bend any more, and
I was pushing two inches into it's top. :-(
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
> in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
> smile on your ... pants.
>
> http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

 

Is the "T" for testosterone? I've been in cars that got to a
hundred in nine seconds, that Ferrari must be pulling three gravities,
and incredible feeling. I wish I could fit in it, I came into some
money, and looked at the Bird, no way, my back won't bend any more, and
I was pushing two inches into it's top. :-(
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> TVR are apparently quizzing owners really hard as to whether they want 800hp
> in their Speed 12. Seems to be a bit of a handful. Fast enough to put a
> smile on your ... pants.
>
> http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/tvrspeed12.html
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

 

Don't get your panties in a wad. The OP said "There's no replacement
for displacement." Obviously, from this example, there is, and it
worked quite well. Now, go take your prozac and calm down...


> Yeah, it'd probably beat a 5.0 with twin turbos on it too.
> Lesse...apples/oranges...oranges/apples...
>
> ok! OK! I got it, let's compare a twin turbo, nitrous injected, mid
> nineties ZX300, ported, polished, full race cam, open headers and
> a...oh, say...a '73 Chevy Impala with four bent pushrods and a spun main
> bearing...? How would that come out? Yeah, I guess you're
> right...displacement has no bearing on it...
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >>"There's No Replacement For Displacement."
> >
> >
> >
> > I dunno about that. A buddy of mine has a 1990 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
> > AWD. It's only a 4-cylinder engine. I am not sure of the exact
> > displacement, but it can't be more than 2.5 liters at the very most.
> > Yet with those twin turbos, it will blow away all but the beefiest of
> > muscle cars. I personally witnessed it smoke a 5.0 Mustang.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
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Don't get your panties in a wad. The OP said "There's no replacement
for displacement." Obviously, from this example, there is, and it
worked quite well. Now, go take your prozac and calm down...


> Yeah, it'd probably beat a 5.0 with twin turbos on it too.
> Lesse...apples/oranges...oranges/apples...
>
> ok! OK! I got it, let's compare a twin turbo, nitrous injected, mid
> nineties ZX300, ported, polished, full race cam, open headers and
> a...oh, say...a '73 Chevy Impala with four bent pushrods and a spun main
> bearing...? How would that come out? Yeah, I guess you're
> right...displacement has no bearing on it...
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >>"There's No Replacement For Displacement."
> >
> >
> >
> > I dunno about that. A buddy of mine has a 1990 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
> > AWD. It's only a 4-cylinder engine. I am not sure of the exact
> > displacement, but it can't be more than 2.5 liters at the very most.
> > Yet with those twin turbos, it will blow away all but the beefiest of
> > muscle cars. I personally witnessed it smoke a 5.0 Mustang.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________