More New Scrambler Details
#11
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
In article <b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
>up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
>core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
>have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
>type.
They both have their place. The I-6 has max torque in a lower power band,
that's more useful for off-roading. Hence the backlash against putting a V6 in
in the TJ.
The V6 will rev high all day and will probably be somwhat more economical.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
>up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
>core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
>have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
>type.
They both have their place. The I-6 has max torque in a lower power band,
that's more useful for off-roading. Hence the backlash against putting a V6 in
in the TJ.
The V6 will rev high all day and will probably be somwhat more economical.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#12
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Not so iron now - it even has alloy pistons [gasp].
Just returned from taking g/f to university - fuel consumption @ constant
cruise controlled 75 mph was 20 US mpg / 24 UK mpg over 600 miles ; not too
bad really.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnjt4q5dldsq24@corp.supernews.com...
: >> Engine wars are fought pretty much entirely by the ignorant. <<
:
: Indeed, it's a "my dad's tougher than yours" school of logic.
:
: The I6 is a nearly 40 year old, tried & true design. However, it's never
: been noted for being particularly powerful, and it's a rather heavy old
iron
: dog. The V6 in the (dare I refer to it) ...Liberty... is the 4.7 with 2
: holes cut off. It's bound to be much lighter and probably will crank out
: more power. However, I doubt it will last anywhere near as long as the I6.
: Then there the case of the V6 shakes.... Last good V6 in a Jeep was the
225
: Dauntless.
:
:
Just returned from taking g/f to university - fuel consumption @ constant
cruise controlled 75 mph was 20 US mpg / 24 UK mpg over 600 miles ; not too
bad really.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnjt4q5dldsq24@corp.supernews.com...
: >> Engine wars are fought pretty much entirely by the ignorant. <<
:
: Indeed, it's a "my dad's tougher than yours" school of logic.
:
: The I6 is a nearly 40 year old, tried & true design. However, it's never
: been noted for being particularly powerful, and it's a rather heavy old
iron
: dog. The V6 in the (dare I refer to it) ...Liberty... is the 4.7 with 2
: holes cut off. It's bound to be much lighter and probably will crank out
: more power. However, I doubt it will last anywhere near as long as the I6.
: Then there the case of the V6 shakes.... Last good V6 in a Jeep was the
225
: Dauntless.
:
:
#13
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Not so iron now - it even has alloy pistons [gasp].
Just returned from taking g/f to university - fuel consumption @ constant
cruise controlled 75 mph was 20 US mpg / 24 UK mpg over 600 miles ; not too
bad really.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnjt4q5dldsq24@corp.supernews.com...
: >> Engine wars are fought pretty much entirely by the ignorant. <<
:
: Indeed, it's a "my dad's tougher than yours" school of logic.
:
: The I6 is a nearly 40 year old, tried & true design. However, it's never
: been noted for being particularly powerful, and it's a rather heavy old
iron
: dog. The V6 in the (dare I refer to it) ...Liberty... is the 4.7 with 2
: holes cut off. It's bound to be much lighter and probably will crank out
: more power. However, I doubt it will last anywhere near as long as the I6.
: Then there the case of the V6 shakes.... Last good V6 in a Jeep was the
225
: Dauntless.
:
:
Just returned from taking g/f to university - fuel consumption @ constant
cruise controlled 75 mph was 20 US mpg / 24 UK mpg over 600 miles ; not too
bad really.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnjt4q5dldsq24@corp.supernews.com...
: >> Engine wars are fought pretty much entirely by the ignorant. <<
:
: Indeed, it's a "my dad's tougher than yours" school of logic.
:
: The I6 is a nearly 40 year old, tried & true design. However, it's never
: been noted for being particularly powerful, and it's a rather heavy old
iron
: dog. The V6 in the (dare I refer to it) ...Liberty... is the 4.7 with 2
: holes cut off. It's bound to be much lighter and probably will crank out
: more power. However, I doubt it will last anywhere near as long as the I6.
: Then there the case of the V6 shakes.... Last good V6 in a Jeep was the
225
: Dauntless.
:
:
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> type.
>
>
The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension, anything,
better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad environment,
and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque and
horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce its
torque just above idle speeds.
Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and stumps
while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want to
be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not half
way up the scale.
Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the torque
and hp to come in at very low speeds.
If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go trail
riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor you
will want.
That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This is
a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
line.
> > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
that is
> > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6 is
not
> > one of the engine options.
> >
> >
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"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> type.
>
>
The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension, anything,
better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad environment,
and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque and
horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce its
torque just above idle speeds.
Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and stumps
while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want to
be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not half
way up the scale.
Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the torque
and hp to come in at very low speeds.
If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go trail
riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor you
will want.
That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This is
a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
line.
> > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
that is
> > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6 is
not
> > one of the engine options.
> >
> >
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Every once in a while I get the chance to drive a ****** era CJ with the
225. It really was a sweet little engine. Not sure what the parts situation
is for them these days.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vnjv34cppj5q4d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.c om...
> > What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> > up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> > core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> > have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> > type.
> >
> >
>
> The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension,
anything,
> better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad
environment,
> and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque
and
> horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce
its
> torque just above idle speeds.
>
> Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and
stumps
> while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want
to
> be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
> the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not
half
> way up the scale.
>
> Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
> that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
> semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the
torque
> and hp to come in at very low speeds.
>
> If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
> get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go
trail
> riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor
you
> will want.
>
> That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This
is
> a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
> motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
> line.
>
>
>
>
> > > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
> that is
> > > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6
is
> not
> > > one of the engine options.
> > >
> > >
>
>
225. It really was a sweet little engine. Not sure what the parts situation
is for them these days.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vnjv34cppj5q4d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.c om...
> > What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> > up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> > core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> > have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> > type.
> >
> >
>
> The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension,
anything,
> better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad
environment,
> and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque
and
> horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce
its
> torque just above idle speeds.
>
> Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and
stumps
> while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want
to
> be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
> the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not
half
> way up the scale.
>
> Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
> that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
> semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the
torque
> and hp to come in at very low speeds.
>
> If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
> get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go
trail
> riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor
you
> will want.
>
> That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This
is
> a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
> motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
> line.
>
>
>
>
> > > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
> that is
> > > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6
is
> not
> > > one of the engine options.
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Every once in a while I get the chance to drive a ****** era CJ with the
225. It really was a sweet little engine. Not sure what the parts situation
is for them these days.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vnjv34cppj5q4d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.c om...
> > What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> > up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> > core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> > have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> > type.
> >
> >
>
> The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension,
anything,
> better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad
environment,
> and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque
and
> horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce
its
> torque just above idle speeds.
>
> Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and
stumps
> while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want
to
> be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
> the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not
half
> way up the scale.
>
> Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
> that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
> semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the
torque
> and hp to come in at very low speeds.
>
> If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
> get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go
trail
> riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor
you
> will want.
>
> That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This
is
> a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
> motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
> line.
>
>
>
>
> > > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
> that is
> > > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6
is
> not
> > > one of the engine options.
> > >
> > >
>
>
225. It really was a sweet little engine. Not sure what the parts situation
is for them these days.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vnjv34cppj5q4d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.c om...
> > What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> > up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> > core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> > have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> > type.
> >
> >
>
> The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension,
anything,
> better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad
environment,
> and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque
and
> horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce
its
> torque just above idle speeds.
>
> Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and
stumps
> while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want
to
> be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
> the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not
half
> way up the scale.
>
> Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
> that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
> semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the
torque
> and hp to come in at very low speeds.
>
> If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
> get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go
trail
> riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor
you
> will want.
>
> That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This
is
> a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
> motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
> line.
>
>
>
>
> > > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
> that is
> > > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6
is
> not
> > > one of the engine options.
> > >
> > >
>
>
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To make the V6 work in the TJ they'll likely revise the cam timing to bring
the power band down. I'm not familiar with this engine at all or how well
it's worked in the (dare I refer to it again) .... Liberty ..... shudder.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030930172700.00545.00001245@mb-m02.aol.com...
> In article <b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
> >What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> >up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> >core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> >have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> >type.
>
> They both have their place. The I-6 has max torque in a lower power band,
> that's more useful for off-roading. Hence the backlash against putting a
V6 in
> in the TJ.
>
> The V6 will rev high all day and will probably be somwhat more economical.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
the power band down. I'm not familiar with this engine at all or how well
it's worked in the (dare I refer to it again) .... Liberty ..... shudder.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030930172700.00545.00001245@mb-m02.aol.com...
> In article <b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
> >What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> >up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> >core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> >have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> >type.
>
> They both have their place. The I-6 has max torque in a lower power band,
> that's more useful for off-roading. Hence the backlash against putting a
V6 in
> in the TJ.
>
> The V6 will rev high all day and will probably be somwhat more economical.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
To make the V6 work in the TJ they'll likely revise the cam timing to bring
the power band down. I'm not familiar with this engine at all or how well
it's worked in the (dare I refer to it again) .... Liberty ..... shudder.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030930172700.00545.00001245@mb-m02.aol.com...
> In article <b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
> >What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> >up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> >core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> >have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> >type.
>
> They both have their place. The I-6 has max torque in a lower power band,
> that's more useful for off-roading. Hence the backlash against putting a
V6 in
> in the TJ.
>
> The V6 will rev high all day and will probably be somwhat more economical.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
the power band down. I'm not familiar with this engine at all or how well
it's worked in the (dare I refer to it again) .... Liberty ..... shudder.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030930172700.00545.00001245@mb-m02.aol.com...
> In article <b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
> >What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> >up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> >core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> >have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> >type.
>
> They both have their place. The I-6 has max torque in a lower power band,
> that's more useful for off-roading. Hence the backlash against putting a
V6 in
> in the TJ.
>
> The V6 will rev high all day and will probably be somwhat more economical.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
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Re: More New Scrambler Details
Very informative. Thank you.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vnjv34cppj5q4d@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.c om...
> > What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> > up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> > core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> > have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> > type.
> >
> >
>
> The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension, anything,
> better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad environment,
> and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque and
> horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce its
> torque just above idle speeds.
>
> Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and stumps
> while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want to
> be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
> the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not half
> way up the scale.
>
> Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
> that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
> semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the torque
> and hp to come in at very low speeds.
>
> If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
> get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go trail
> riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor you
> will want.
>
> That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This is
> a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
> motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
> line.
>
>
>
>
> > > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
> that is
> > > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6 is
> not
> > > one of the engine options.
> > >
> > >
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vnjv34cppj5q4d@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309301057.40e84a07@posting.google.c om...
> > What makes you think that the V6 is inferior to the I6? I have read
> > up on the features of Vs versus Is, and both types seem to have a hard
> > core of fans who insist they are better... but from what I as a layman
> > have read, neither engine style has an absolute edge over the other
> > type.
> >
> >
>
> The rule of thumb is that anything that makes a motor, suspension, anything,
> better for highway use detracts from the function in an offroad environment,
> and vice versa. The V6 is a high revving motor that produces its torque and
> horsepower numbers relatively high in the RPM range, the I6 will produce its
> torque just above idle speeds.
>
> Let me illustrate the point, would you rather idle over boulders and stumps
> while gently feathering the gas to keep from stalling, or would you want to
> be holding the fuel supplier down so that the engine speed was boosted to
> the point that control was compromised? I want the torque at idle, not half
> way up the scale.
>
> Highway travel demands the torque to be well up on the RPM scale because
> that means there is a power reserve that one can tap to climb hills, pass
> semis, that sort of thing. But, in offhighway travel, one prefers the torque
> and hp to come in at very low speeds.
>
> If you purpose to buy a Jeep was to drive cross country on the freeway to
> get to Grandma's house, you want the V6. But, if you are wanting to go trail
> riding, stump jumping, and rock crawling, then the V6 is the last motor you
> will want.
>
> That said, I am sure that Bill will tell us about the old 225 ci V6. This is
> a different beast than today's fuel injected high revving V6's. That old
> motor was among the most desireable off road motors to ever comme off the
> line.
>
>
>
>
> > > That 3.7L is a V6. The4.0L I6 is what will probably be on it because
> that is
> > > the engine that comes on the other TJ models. At least I hope the V6 is
> not
> > > one of the engine options.
> > >
> > >