Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
10-12-2004, 03:02 PM
#21
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
although I use a dowel... a rolled up magazine can be used I was told...
Jeff
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:416C0518.C0005114@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> That's a new idea for me, I can think of many places where I use a
> knot, where a half hitch won't do. Now I won't be sticking myself in the
> eye with a screwdriver trying to undue a knot. Thanks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, very sad....
> >
> > Two straps can just be looped together with a piece of dowel or stick
> > wedged in to make pulling them apart easier.
> >
> > You hold one loop straight up and take the second strap's loop and put
> > it over top of the loop you are holding up so it slides down the strap a
> > bit. You then take the far end of the second strap and put it through
> > that first loop you are holding up. When you pull the two loops are
> > locked together and look like a figure 8 or something. The dowel goes
> > in the joint so the straps don't lock too tight together.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:416C0518.C0005114@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> That's a new idea for me, I can think of many places where I use a
> knot, where a half hitch won't do. Now I won't be sticking myself in the
> eye with a screwdriver trying to undue a knot. Thanks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, very sad....
> >
> > Two straps can just be looped together with a piece of dowel or stick
> > wedged in to make pulling them apart easier.
> >
> > You hold one loop straight up and take the second strap's loop and put
> > it over top of the loop you are holding up so it slides down the strap a
> > bit. You then take the far end of the second strap and put it through
> > that first loop you are holding up. When you pull the two loops are
> > locked together and look like a figure 8 or something. The dowel goes
> > in the joint so the straps don't lock too tight together.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-12-2004, 03:02 PM
#22
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
although I use a dowel... a rolled up magazine can be used I was told...
Jeff
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:416C0518.C0005114@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> That's a new idea for me, I can think of many places where I use a
> knot, where a half hitch won't do. Now I won't be sticking myself in the
> eye with a screwdriver trying to undue a knot. Thanks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, very sad....
> >
> > Two straps can just be looped together with a piece of dowel or stick
> > wedged in to make pulling them apart easier.
> >
> > You hold one loop straight up and take the second strap's loop and put
> > it over top of the loop you are holding up so it slides down the strap a
> > bit. You then take the far end of the second strap and put it through
> > that first loop you are holding up. When you pull the two loops are
> > locked together and look like a figure 8 or something. The dowel goes
> > in the joint so the straps don't lock too tight together.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:416C0518.C0005114@***.net...
> Hi Mike,
> That's a new idea for me, I can think of many places where I use a
> knot, where a half hitch won't do. Now I won't be sticking myself in the
> eye with a screwdriver trying to undue a knot. Thanks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, very sad....
> >
> > Two straps can just be looped together with a piece of dowel or stick
> > wedged in to make pulling them apart easier.
> >
> > You hold one loop straight up and take the second strap's loop and put
> > it over top of the loop you are holding up so it slides down the strap a
> > bit. You then take the far end of the second strap and put it through
> > that first loop you are holding up. When you pull the two loops are
> > locked together and look like a figure 8 or something. The dowel goes
> > in the joint so the straps don't lock too tight together.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-12-2004, 05:22 PM
#23
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
and the two straps instantly come apart.
I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
straps
> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> force of the pull.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > Very sad....
> >
> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> >
> >
> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> >> don't
> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> >>
> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> >> what
> >> to use and not to use...
> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
cleavis....
> >> I
> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
my
> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> >>
> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> >> you are in our prayers....
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> >> >
> >>
http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> >> 6753&p=1
> >> > --
> >> > Gene
> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
and the two straps instantly come apart.
I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
straps
> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> force of the pull.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > Very sad....
> >
> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> >
> >
> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> >> don't
> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> >>
> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> >> what
> >> to use and not to use...
> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
cleavis....
> >> I
> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
my
> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> >>
> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> >> you are in our prayers....
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> >> >
> >>
http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> >> 6753&p=1
> >> > --
> >> > Gene
> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
10-12-2004, 05:22 PM
#24
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
and the two straps instantly come apart.
I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
straps
> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> force of the pull.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > Very sad....
> >
> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> >
> >
> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> >> don't
> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> >>
> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> >> what
> >> to use and not to use...
> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
cleavis....
> >> I
> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
my
> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> >>
> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> >> you are in our prayers....
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> >> >
> >>
http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> >> 6753&p=1
> >> > --
> >> > Gene
> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
and the two straps instantly come apart.
I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
straps
> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> force of the pull.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > Very sad....
> >
> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> >
> >
> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> >> don't
> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> >>
> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> >> what
> >> to use and not to use...
> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
cleavis....
> >> I
> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
my
> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> >>
> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> >> you are in our prayers....
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> >> >
> >>
http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> >> 6753&p=1
> >> > --
> >> > Gene
> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
10-12-2004, 05:22 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
and the two straps instantly come apart.
I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
straps
> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> force of the pull.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > Very sad....
> >
> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> >
> >
> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> >> don't
> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> >>
> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> >> what
> >> to use and not to use...
> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
cleavis....
> >> I
> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
my
> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> >>
> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> >> you are in our prayers....
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> >> >
> >>
http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> >> 6753&p=1
> >> > --
> >> > Gene
> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
and the two straps instantly come apart.
I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
straps
> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> force of the pull.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > Very sad....
> >
> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> >
> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> >
> >
> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> >> don't
> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> >>
> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> >> what
> >> to use and not to use...
> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
cleavis....
> >> I
> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
my
> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> >>
> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> >> you are in our prayers....
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> >> >
> >>
http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> >> 6753&p=1
> >> > --
> >> > Gene
> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
10-12-2004, 05:56 PM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
He just didn't know the right way to use the dowel. :-(
You put the two loops together so they lock. The dowel just goes
between them so you can pry them apart.
Hole one loop up. Put second strap's loop over one you are holding then
feed the second straps other end through the first loop. Bingo, two
locked together loops.
Wood can go just as ballistic as steel if it snaps under pressure. In
my mind the person who showed you that method should be slapped. Hard!.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> > The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> > through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
> > can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> > they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> > force of the pull.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> > news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > Very sad....
> > >
> > > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> > >> don't
> > >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> > >>
> > >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> > >> what
> > >> to use and not to use...
> > >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
> > >> I
> > >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
> > >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> > >>
> > >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> > >> you are in our prayers....
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> > >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> > >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> > >> >
> > >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> > >> 6753&p=1
> > >> > --
> > >> > Gene
> > >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
You put the two loops together so they lock. The dowel just goes
between them so you can pry them apart.
Hole one loop up. Put second strap's loop over one you are holding then
feed the second straps other end through the first loop. Bingo, two
locked together loops.
Wood can go just as ballistic as steel if it snaps under pressure. In
my mind the person who showed you that method should be slapped. Hard!.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> > The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> > through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
> > can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> > they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> > force of the pull.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> > news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > Very sad....
> > >
> > > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> > >> don't
> > >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> > >>
> > >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> > >> what
> > >> to use and not to use...
> > >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
> > >> I
> > >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
> > >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> > >>
> > >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> > >> you are in our prayers....
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> > >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> > >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> > >> >
> > >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> > >> 6753&p=1
> > >> > --
> > >> > Gene
> > >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
10-12-2004, 05:56 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
He just didn't know the right way to use the dowel. :-(
You put the two loops together so they lock. The dowel just goes
between them so you can pry them apart.
Hole one loop up. Put second strap's loop over one you are holding then
feed the second straps other end through the first loop. Bingo, two
locked together loops.
Wood can go just as ballistic as steel if it snaps under pressure. In
my mind the person who showed you that method should be slapped. Hard!.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> > The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> > through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
> > can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> > they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> > force of the pull.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> > news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > Very sad....
> > >
> > > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> > >> don't
> > >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> > >>
> > >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> > >> what
> > >> to use and not to use...
> > >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
> > >> I
> > >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
> > >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> > >>
> > >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> > >> you are in our prayers....
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> > >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> > >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> > >> >
> > >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> > >> 6753&p=1
> > >> > --
> > >> > Gene
> > >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
You put the two loops together so they lock. The dowel just goes
between them so you can pry them apart.
Hole one loop up. Put second strap's loop over one you are holding then
feed the second straps other end through the first loop. Bingo, two
locked together loops.
Wood can go just as ballistic as steel if it snaps under pressure. In
my mind the person who showed you that method should be slapped. Hard!.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> > The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> > through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
> > can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> > they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> > force of the pull.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> > news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > Very sad....
> > >
> > > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> > >> don't
> > >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> > >>
> > >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> > >> what
> > >> to use and not to use...
> > >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
> > >> I
> > >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
> > >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> > >>
> > >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> > >> you are in our prayers....
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> > >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> > >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> > >> >
> > >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> > >> 6753&p=1
> > >> > --
> > >> > Gene
> > >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
10-12-2004, 05:56 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
He just didn't know the right way to use the dowel. :-(
You put the two loops together so they lock. The dowel just goes
between them so you can pry them apart.
Hole one loop up. Put second strap's loop over one you are holding then
feed the second straps other end through the first loop. Bingo, two
locked together loops.
Wood can go just as ballistic as steel if it snaps under pressure. In
my mind the person who showed you that method should be slapped. Hard!.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> > The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> > through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
> > can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> > they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> > force of the pull.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> > news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > Very sad....
> > >
> > > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> > >> don't
> > >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> > >>
> > >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> > >> what
> > >> to use and not to use...
> > >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
> > >> I
> > >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
> > >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> > >>
> > >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> > >> you are in our prayers....
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> > >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> > >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> > >> >
> > >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> > >> 6753&p=1
> > >> > --
> > >> > Gene
> > >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
You put the two loops together so they lock. The dowel just goes
between them so you can pry them apart.
Hole one loop up. Put second strap's loop over one you are holding then
feed the second straps other end through the first loop. Bingo, two
locked together loops.
Wood can go just as ballistic as steel if it snaps under pressure. In
my mind the person who showed you that method should be slapped. Hard!.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
> > The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
> > through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
> > can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the dowel,
> > they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
> > force of the pull.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
> > news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > Very sad....
> > >
> > > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently a
> > > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
> > > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
> > > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
> > > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
> > >
> > > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> > > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
> > >> don't
> > >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
> > >>
> > >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
> > >> what
> > >> to use and not to use...
> > >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
> > >> I
> > >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
> > >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
> > >>
> > >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
> > >> you are in our prayers....
> > >> Jeff
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
> > >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
> > >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
> > >> >
> > >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
> > >> 6753&p=1
> > >> > --
> > >> > Gene
> > >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
10-12-2004, 06:37 PM
#29
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
A dowel of 2inches is a small tree with the bark peeled off!! haha
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zLidnQ7ZT8XJ1PHcRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap
> 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
>> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
>> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
>> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the
>> dowel,
>> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
>> force of the pull.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
>> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
>> > Very sad....
>> >
>> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently
>> > a
>> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
>> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
>> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
>> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
>> >
>> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
>> >
>> >
>> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
>> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
>> >> don't
>> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
>> >>
>> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
>> >> what
>> >> to use and not to use...
>> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
>> >> I
>> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
>> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
>> >>
>> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
>> >> you are in our prayers....
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
>> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
>> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
>> >> >
>> >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
>> >> 6753&p=1
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gene
>> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > o_o_o_o
>> > /| ,[_____],
>> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
>> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>>
>>
>
>
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zLidnQ7ZT8XJ1PHcRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap
> 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
>> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
>> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
>> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the
>> dowel,
>> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
>> force of the pull.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
>> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
>> > Very sad....
>> >
>> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently
>> > a
>> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
>> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
>> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
>> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
>> >
>> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
>> >
>> >
>> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
>> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
>> >> don't
>> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
>> >>
>> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
>> >> what
>> >> to use and not to use...
>> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
>> >> I
>> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
>> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
>> >>
>> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
>> >> you are in our prayers....
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
>> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
>> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
>> >> >
>> >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
>> >> 6753&p=1
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gene
>> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > o_o_o_o
>> > /| ,[_____],
>> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
>> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>>
>>
>
>
10-12-2004, 06:37 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
A dowel of 2inches is a small tree with the bark peeled off!! haha
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zLidnQ7ZT8XJ1PHcRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap
> 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
>> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
>> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
>> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the
>> dowel,
>> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
>> force of the pull.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
>> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
>> > Very sad....
>> >
>> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently
>> > a
>> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
>> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
>> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
>> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
>> >
>> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
>> >
>> >
>> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
>> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
>> >> don't
>> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
>> >>
>> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
>> >> what
>> >> to use and not to use...
>> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
>> >> I
>> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
>> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
>> >>
>> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
>> >> you are in our prayers....
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
>> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
>> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
>> >> >
>> >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
>> >> 6753&p=1
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gene
>> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > o_o_o_o
>> > /| ,[_____],
>> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
>> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>>
>>
>
>
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:zLidnQ7ZT8XJ1PHcRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>I met Mark Smith at a Jeep Jamboree a few years ago, and he showed us a
> different way of connecting straps with a dowel...pull the end of Strap 1
> through the loop of Strap 2, then insert the dowel into the loop of Strap
> 1,
> essentially making the dowel a toggle. If the dowel breaks, it will break
> inward, and the wood pieces won't fly toward either vehicle.
>
> I made a dowel out of a hardwood sledgehammer handle. It should have a
> minimum diameter of 2 inches. I've used this method several times and have
> yet to have a problem with breakage, and when done, you slip the dowel out
> and the two straps instantly come apart.
>
> I've never personally met the fellow that was killed, but I am sure some
> members of my off-road club know him. What a tragedy.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:R0Tad.29426$_a3.9250@fed1read05...
>> The dowel doesn't really hold the straps, they are (should be) looped
>> through each other. The dowel is only (should only) be there so the
> straps
>> can be pulled apart after the pull has been completed. Without the
>> dowel,
>> they can be difficult to disengage the straps from each other due to the
>> force of the pull.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
>> news:aarongraham-86F2F0.11170112102004@corp-radius.supernews.com...
>> > Very sad....
>> >
>> > I know I have used a clevis for this purpose in the past, but recently
>> > a
>> > wheeling buddy showed me how to use a 1.5" diameter wooden dowel to
>> > connect 2 straps when one is not long enough. Would believe the dowel
>> > would be the first thing to break, or if not it would not have the
>> > weight/inertia to become a projectile.
>> >
>> > Any one have any ideas/cautions on using this instead?
>> >
>> >
>> > In article <OaSad.79414$vO1.445558@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
>> > "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.easlink.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is sooo sad....it breaks my heart...the tears have been shed....I
>> >> don't
>> >> know the man, but is a Jeeper and means he is all our friend...
>> >>
>> >> I'm a new Jeeper and our club has had many discussions on tugging and
>> >> what
>> >> to use and not to use...
>> >> and I have already seen this joining two straps together by a
> cleavis....
>> >> I
>> >> know I will never see it again NOW....I will never let this happen in
> my
>> >> presence as it has really opened my eyes...
>> >>
>> >> God Bless the family and friends of the deceased...
>> >> you are in our prayers....
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "JeepNutz" <jeepinDAMMITgene@ISAID.NO.SPAM> wrote in message
>> >> news:RhCad.243631$3l3.183113@attbi_s03...
>> >> > To all the newbies out there.. straps are dangerous animals...
>> >> >
>> >>
> http://michiganjeepers.com/eve/ubb.x...109322&m=90210
>> >> 6753&p=1
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gene
>> >> > Jeep, because life is an adventure, not a race.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > o_o_o_o
>> > /| ,[_____],
>> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
>> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>>
>>
>
>