Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
10-14-2004, 08:13 PM
#241
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I don't think the drawing could be any clearer than the one Steve,
drew.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
> type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
>
> I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
> do it.
>
> There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
> to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
>
> Mike
drew.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
> type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
>
> I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
> do it.
>
> There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
> to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
>
> Mike
10-15-2004, 01:50 PM
#242
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
Hi Bill,
Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
>>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
>>
>>Steve
>>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
>>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
>>
>>Steve
>>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
10-15-2004, 01:50 PM
#243
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
Hi Bill,
Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
>>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
>>
>>Steve
>>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
>>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
>>
>>Steve
>>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
10-15-2004, 01:50 PM
#244
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
Hi Bill,
Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
>>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
>>
>>Steve
>>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
>>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
>>
>>Steve
>>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
10-15-2004, 03:25 PM
#245
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I could see someone trying that and I sure didn't think my 3" straps
would handle it, but I looked and they would like you describe.
I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
I can only think that someone showed them the correct way and they were
not paying good enough attention.....
Here is the correct or only 'safe' way to 'lock' two straps in case
folks are lost:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
> exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
> hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
> itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
> strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
> stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
> through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
> accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
> better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
>
> Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
> >>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
would handle it, but I looked and they would like you describe.
I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
I can only think that someone showed them the correct way and they were
not paying good enough attention.....
Here is the correct or only 'safe' way to 'lock' two straps in case
folks are lost:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
> exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
> hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
> itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
> strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
> stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
> through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
> accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
> better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
>
> Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
> >>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
10-15-2004, 03:25 PM
#246
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I could see someone trying that and I sure didn't think my 3" straps
would handle it, but I looked and they would like you describe.
I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
I can only think that someone showed them the correct way and they were
not paying good enough attention.....
Here is the correct or only 'safe' way to 'lock' two straps in case
folks are lost:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
> exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
> hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
> itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
> strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
> stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
> through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
> accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
> better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
>
> Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
> >>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
would handle it, but I looked and they would like you describe.
I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
I can only think that someone showed them the correct way and they were
not paying good enough attention.....
Here is the correct or only 'safe' way to 'lock' two straps in case
folks are lost:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
> exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
> hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
> itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
> strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
> stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
> through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
> accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
> better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
>
> Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
> >>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
10-15-2004, 03:25 PM
#247
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I could see someone trying that and I sure didn't think my 3" straps
would handle it, but I looked and they would like you describe.
I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
I can only think that someone showed them the correct way and they were
not paying good enough attention.....
Here is the correct or only 'safe' way to 'lock' two straps in case
folks are lost:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
> exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
> hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
> itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
> strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
> stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
> through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
> accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
> better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
>
> Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
> >>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
would handle it, but I looked and they would like you describe.
I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
I can only think that someone showed them the correct way and they were
not paying good enough attention.....
Here is the correct or only 'safe' way to 'lock' two straps in case
folks are lost:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Of course that proportion is not found in real straps. I simply
> exaggerated the proportions to quickly illustrate a foolish and
> hazardous technique. It can be done though. First loop the red strap on
> itself around the stick and pull tight. Then draw the end of the red
> strap through an eye of the blue strap and pull the blue eye to the
> stick. Finally, pass the tail of the blue strap over the stick and
> through the blue eye. As long as the blue eye is big enough to
> accommodate two passes of strap, no problem. I suppose I could draw a
> better picture, but I'm afraid it might end up in someone's glovebox.
>
> Again for anyone else reading, this is not a safe way to link two straps.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > That proportion is not found in the tow straps I'm aware of:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ictures&img=14
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, it can be done, but I'd never use this or any other method
> >>that relies on a stick to maintain the connection.
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
10-15-2004, 03:59 PM
#248
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
The most commonly heard phrase in a hospital emergency room out of folks
staring up at the ceiling is "That was such a stupid, stupid thing for me
to do..."
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
> chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
> deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
--
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10-15-2004, 03:59 PM
#249
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
The most commonly heard phrase in a hospital emergency room out of folks
staring up at the ceiling is "That was such a stupid, stupid thing for me
to do..."
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
> chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
> deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
--
Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real
authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.
10-15-2004, 03:59 PM
#250
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
The most commonly heard phrase in a hospital emergency room out of folks
staring up at the ceiling is "That was such a stupid, stupid thing for me
to do..."
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> I really am having a hard time grasping the fact that folks would use a
> chunk of wood of unknown strength to anchor something so potentially
> deadly as a ****** strap in full ******.
--
Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not
by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real
authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside.