Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
10-14-2004, 07:04 PM
#231
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
"Hi John,
I wish you would modify your advice at:
http://www.novascotiajeepclub.ca/con...s/tip_two.html
Making the dowel only a spacer in the tow strap connection so as to make
it easier to untie, like in this drawing:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill, can you post your email to John that he replied to?
I wish you would modify your advice at:
http://www.novascotiajeepclub.ca/con...s/tip_two.html
Making the dowel only a spacer in the tow strap connection so as to make
it easier to untie, like in this drawing:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill, can you post your email to John that he replied to?
10-14-2004, 07:04 PM
#232
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
"Hi John,
I wish you would modify your advice at:
http://www.novascotiajeepclub.ca/con...s/tip_two.html
Making the dowel only a spacer in the tow strap connection so as to make
it easier to untie, like in this drawing:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill, can you post your email to John that he replied to?
I wish you would modify your advice at:
http://www.novascotiajeepclub.ca/con...s/tip_two.html
Making the dowel only a spacer in the tow strap connection so as to make
it easier to untie, like in this drawing:
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Bill, can you post your email to John that he replied to?
10-14-2004, 07:05 PM
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Bad advice!
To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
John
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
make
easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
It's
part of a slingshot, test it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Cranfield wrote:
Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
done
quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
recommend was the safest I could find.
John
Subject: Re: Bad advice!
To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
John
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
make
easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
It's
part of a slingshot, test it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Cranfield wrote:
Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
done
quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
recommend was the safest I could find.
John
10-14-2004, 07:05 PM
#234
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Bad advice!
To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
John
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
make
easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
It's
part of a slingshot, test it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Cranfield wrote:
Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
done
quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
recommend was the safest I could find.
John
Subject: Re: Bad advice!
To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
John
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
make
easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
It's
part of a slingshot, test it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Cranfield wrote:
Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
done
quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
recommend was the safest I could find.
John
10-14-2004, 07:05 PM
#235
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Bad advice!
To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
John
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
make
easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
It's
part of a slingshot, test it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Cranfield wrote:
Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
done
quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
recommend was the safest I could find.
John
Subject: Re: Bad advice!
To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
John
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
make
easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
It's
part of a slingshot, test it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Cranfield wrote:
Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
done
quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
recommend was the safest I could find.
John
10-14-2004, 08:01 PM
#236
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
do it.
There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Bad advice!
> To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>
> What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
> inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
> Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
> and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
> holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
> John
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
> make
> easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
> It's
> part of a slingshot, test it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Cranfield wrote:
>
> Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
> tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
> done
> quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
> recommend was the safest I could find.
> John
type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
do it.
There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Bad advice!
> To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>
> What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
> inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
> Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
> and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
> holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
> John
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
> make
> easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
> It's
> part of a slingshot, test it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Cranfield wrote:
>
> Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
> tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
> done
> quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
> recommend was the safest I could find.
> John
10-14-2004, 08:01 PM
#237
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
do it.
There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Bad advice!
> To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>
> What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
> inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
> Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
> and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
> holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
> John
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
> make
> easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
> It's
> part of a slingshot, test it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Cranfield wrote:
>
> Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
> tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
> done
> quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
> recommend was the safest I could find.
> John
type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
do it.
There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Bad advice!
> To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>
> What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
> inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
> Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
> and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
> holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
> John
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
> make
> easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
> It's
> part of a slingshot, test it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Cranfield wrote:
>
> Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
> tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
> done
> quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
> recommend was the safest I could find.
> John
10-14-2004, 08:01 PM
#238
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
do it.
There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Bad advice!
> To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>
> What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
> inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
> Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
> and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
> holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
> John
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
> make
> easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
> It's
> part of a slingshot, test it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Cranfield wrote:
>
> Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
> tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
> done
> quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
> recommend was the safest I could find.
> John
type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
do it.
There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Bad advice!
> To: "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>
> What happens when the dowel breaks (which is unlikely if a correct 1
> inch hard wood dowel is used but as always the unexpected happens)?
> Because the dowel is under little strain it simply falls to the ground
> and the two straps slide apart. The dowel simply acts a "lock" that
> holds the strap loops in a high friction condition. Try it some time.
> John
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> There is no stress on the dowel pictured below, all it does is
> make
> easier to untie. Ask yourself what happens when your dowel breaks?
> It's
> part of a slingshot, test it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Cranfield wrote:
>
> Explain your reasoning. Naturally there is a risk involved anytime a
> tow strap is used and the risk climbs when two are joined. I have
> done
> quite a bit of testing with dowel attaching method and the way I
> recommend was the safest I could find.
> John
10-14-2004, 08:13 PM
#239
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I don't think the drawing could be any clearer than the one Steve,
drew.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
> type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
>
> I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
> do it.
>
> There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
> to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
>
> Mike
drew.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
> type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
>
> I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
> do it.
>
> There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
> to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
>
> Mike
10-14-2004, 08:13 PM
#240
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Re: Michigan Jeepers Loose member to strapping accident..
I don't think the drawing could be any clearer than the one Steve,
drew.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
> type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
>
> I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
> do it.
>
> There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
> to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
>
> Mike
drew.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I don't think he has ever had one fail or he would be talking the same
> type of 100 foot shots Matt saw in his test.
>
> I do not believe John has looked at the proper loop inside a loop way to
> do it.
>
> There can be 'nothing' safer than two locked together loops. You have
> to have strap failure to break it, not stick rot....
>
> Mike