Steve

Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits,
sort of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse
you need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Eric wrote:
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears, and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

And there seems to be a difference in carriers between '93 and '93:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgsh0101.exe Along with your ABS
warning: http://www.----------.com/dana35locker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits,
> sort of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse
> you need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

And there seems to be a difference in carriers between '93 and '93:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgsh0101.exe Along with your ABS
warning: http://www.----------.com/dana35locker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits,
> sort of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse
> you need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

And there seems to be a difference in carriers between '93 and '93:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgsh0101.exe Along with your ABS
warning: http://www.----------.com/dana35locker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits,
> sort of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse
> you need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

And there seems to be a difference in carriers between '93 and '93:
http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgsh0101.exe Along with your ABS
warning: http://www.----------.com/dana35locker.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits,
> sort of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse
> you need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Eric

According to Powertrax's website, we should be using the same locker (P/N
2311S2).

ZJ, Rear Axle, 1993-2000 (his is a 93 or 94, can't recall), Dana 35 Uses
LockRight 2311 S2.
TJ, Rear Axle, 1994-2000 (my TJ's a 99), Dana 35, Uses LockRight 2311 S2.

http://www.powertrax.com/jeep1lr.pdf

Mind you, I've seen some sites (such as that linked by Bill) that specify a
difference. I wonder why a distributer would be providing something the
manufacturer doesn't...

Eric
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:mKYfe.59905$tg1.2482@edtnps84...
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits, sort
> of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse you
> need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Eric wrote:
>> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
>> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was
>> going to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it,
>> and decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
>> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
>> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>>
>> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
>> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both
>> at the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my
>> friend and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not
>> intentionally -- he just forgot to use them. So I took the thrust
>> washers off of the side gears, and voila, everything fit. And when I say
>> "fit", I mean it was very difficult just to get the two couplers in.
>> Once installed, everything lined up the way it should, with the proper
>> clearances.
>>
>> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to
>> get new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but
>> were still too thick to use.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE

Eric

According to Powertrax's website, we should be using the same locker (P/N
2311S2).

ZJ, Rear Axle, 1993-2000 (his is a 93 or 94, can't recall), Dana 35 Uses
LockRight 2311 S2.
TJ, Rear Axle, 1994-2000 (my TJ's a 99), Dana 35, Uses LockRight 2311 S2.

http://www.powertrax.com/jeep1lr.pdf

Mind you, I've seen some sites (such as that linked by Bill) that specify a
difference. I wonder why a distributer would be providing something the
manufacturer doesn't...

Eric
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:mKYfe.59905$tg1.2482@edtnps84...
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits, sort
> of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse you
> need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Eric wrote:
>> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
>> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was
>> going to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it,
>> and decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
>> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
>> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>>
>> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
>> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both
>> at the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my
>> friend and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not
>> intentionally -- he just forgot to use them. So I took the thrust
>> washers off of the side gears, and voila, everything fit. And when I say
>> "fit", I mean it was very difficult just to get the two couplers in.
>> Once installed, everything lined up the way it should, with the proper
>> clearances.
>>
>> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to
>> get new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but
>> were still too thick to use.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE

Eric

According to Powertrax's website, we should be using the same locker (P/N
2311S2).

ZJ, Rear Axle, 1993-2000 (his is a 93 or 94, can't recall), Dana 35 Uses
LockRight 2311 S2.
TJ, Rear Axle, 1994-2000 (my TJ's a 99), Dana 35, Uses LockRight 2311 S2.

http://www.powertrax.com/jeep1lr.pdf

Mind you, I've seen some sites (such as that linked by Bill) that specify a
difference. I wonder why a distributer would be providing something the
manufacturer doesn't...

Eric
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:mKYfe.59905$tg1.2482@edtnps84...
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits, sort
> of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse you
> need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Eric wrote:
>> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
>> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was
>> going to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it,
>> and decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
>> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
>> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>>
>> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
>> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both
>> at the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my
>> friend and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not
>> intentionally -- he just forgot to use them. So I took the thrust
>> washers off of the side gears, and voila, everything fit. And when I say
>> "fit", I mean it was very difficult just to get the two couplers in.
>> Once installed, everything lined up the way it should, with the proper
>> clearances.
>>
>> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to
>> get new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but
>> were still too thick to use.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE

Eric

According to Powertrax's website, we should be using the same locker (P/N
2311S2).

ZJ, Rear Axle, 1993-2000 (his is a 93 or 94, can't recall), Dana 35 Uses
LockRight 2311 S2.
TJ, Rear Axle, 1994-2000 (my TJ's a 99), Dana 35, Uses LockRight 2311 S2.

http://www.powertrax.com/jeep1lr.pdf

Mind you, I've seen some sites (such as that linked by Bill) that specify a
difference. I wonder why a distributer would be providing something the
manufacturer doesn't...

Eric
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:mKYfe.59905$tg1.2482@edtnps84...
> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits, sort
> of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse you
> need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Eric wrote:
>> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
>> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was
>> going to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it,
>> and decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
>> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
>> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>>
>> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
>> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both
>> at the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my
>> friend and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not
>> intentionally -- he just forgot to use them. So I took the thrust
>> washers off of the side gears, and voila, everything fit. And when I say
>> "fit", I mean it was very difficult just to get the two couplers in.
>> Once installed, everything lined up the way it should, with the proper
>> clearances.
>>
>> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to
>> get new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but
>> were still too thick to use.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE

Eric

After further research it appears that the Dana 35s pre 93/94 with ABS had a
different carrier than those without ABS. However, all D35s AFTER 94 have
the same size carrier, regardless of whether you have ABS or not (i.e. they
all have the ABS-sized carrier).

At least that's what the almighty google is telling me. ;-)

Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:w_dge.49894$AE6.2969@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> According to Powertrax's website, we should be using the same locker (P/N
> 2311S2).
>
> ZJ, Rear Axle, 1993-2000 (his is a 93 or 94, can't recall), Dana 35 Uses
> LockRight 2311 S2.
> TJ, Rear Axle, 1994-2000 (my TJ's a 99), Dana 35, Uses LockRight 2311 S2.
>
> http://www.powertrax.com/jeep1lr.pdf
>
> Mind you, I've seen some sites (such as that linked by Bill) that specify
> a difference. I wonder why a distributer would be providing something the
> manufacturer doesn't...
>
> Eric
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:mKYfe.59905$tg1.2482@edtnps84...
>> Your friend has ABS. You don't. You have the wrong locker. The side gear
>> sockets in your carrier are a bit too wide (you should have noticed some
>> rotational play in the locker) and the interior of your carrier is a bit
>> too narrow (hence no room for the required thrust washers). It fits, sort
>> of, but it will be noisy and you will wear your carrier and locker
>> prematurely. On the bright side, it will eventually provide the excuse
>> you need to upgrade to an 8.8 or a 44.
>>
>> Steve
>> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>>
>> Eric wrote:
>>> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for
>>> my Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was
>>> going to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install
>>> it, and decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER.
>>> Really because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for
>>> the right locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a
>>> few... catches.
>>>
>>> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up
>>> on the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time;
>>> both at the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up
>>> my friend and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not
>>> intentionally -- he just forgot to use them. So I took the thrust
>>> washers off of the side gears, and voila, everything fit. And when I
>>> say "fit", I mean it was very difficult just to get the two couplers in.
>>> Once installed, everything lined up the way it should, with the proper
>>> clearances.
>>>
>>> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to
>>> get new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with,
>>> but were still too thick to use.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> 99 TJ SE
>
>