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Eric 05-07-2005 03:54 PM

Just installed locker
 
A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.

For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he just
forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears, and
voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
way it should, with the proper clearances.

Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to get
new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
still too thick to use.

Eric
99 TJ SE



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
I think I already have your video at:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews/powertrax/02.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears, and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
I think I already have your video at:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews/powertrax/02.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears, and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
I think I already have your video at:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews/powertrax/02.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears, and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-07-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
I think I already have your video at:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews/powertrax/02.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears, and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Nick 05-07-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
No, you'll be fine without the thrus washers... Their not ment to be used
with the powertrax. For the first month, lay off the gas on tight turns...
Check your gears and change your fluid after that. twisty roads are gonna
throw you around a bit, and you'll notice your jeep shifting around a bit
when you let off and get on the gas, but you'll love the locker.
Nick
--
http://members.cox.net/nnote/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:P19fe.46191$h6.4669@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he

just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears,

and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to

get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Nick 05-07-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
No, you'll be fine without the thrus washers... Their not ment to be used
with the powertrax. For the first month, lay off the gas on tight turns...
Check your gears and change your fluid after that. twisty roads are gonna
throw you around a bit, and you'll notice your jeep shifting around a bit
when you let off and get on the gas, but you'll love the locker.
Nick
--
http://members.cox.net/nnote/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:P19fe.46191$h6.4669@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he

just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears,

and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to

get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Nick 05-07-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
No, you'll be fine without the thrus washers... Their not ment to be used
with the powertrax. For the first month, lay off the gas on tight turns...
Check your gears and change your fluid after that. twisty roads are gonna
throw you around a bit, and you'll notice your jeep shifting around a bit
when you let off and get on the gas, but you'll love the locker.
Nick
--
http://members.cox.net/nnote/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:P19fe.46191$h6.4669@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he

just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears,

and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to

get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Nick 05-07-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
No, you'll be fine without the thrus washers... Their not ment to be used
with the powertrax. For the first month, lay off the gas on tight turns...
Check your gears and change your fluid after that. twisty roads are gonna
throw you around a bit, and you'll notice your jeep shifting around a bit
when you let off and get on the gas, but you'll love the locker.
Nick
--
http://members.cox.net/nnote/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:P19fe.46191$h6.4669@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was going
> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>
> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both at
> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he

just
> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears,

and
> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very difficult
> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>
> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to

get
> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but were
> still too thick to use.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Eric 05-07-2005 10:46 PM

Re: Just installed locker
 
I noticed the tire squeal around corners already... I have noticed the
shifting as well (took a quick trip to the parts store after installing).

I'll be wheeling it tomorrow -- nothing too hardcore, but I can't wait to
test it out.

As for fluids, any idea what to use?? I went with 85w-140 (that's good for
limited slips). I believe it was Valvoline. I'd have to go check to be
sure... But I've heard conflicting stories on what to use.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Nick" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:u%bfe.3718$Fa1.835@fed1read02...
> No, you'll be fine without the thrus washers... Their not ment to be used
> with the powertrax. For the first month, lay off the gas on tight
> turns...
> Check your gears and change your fluid after that. twisty roads are gonna
> throw you around a bit, and you'll notice your jeep shifting around a bit
> when you let off and get on the gas, but you'll love the locker.
> Nick
> --
> http://members.cox.net/nnote/
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:P19fe.46191$h6.4669@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> A friend of mine just sent me his "slightly used" Powertrax locker for my
>> Dana 35 (yes, Bill, I'll send you links of broken axles ;-)!) I was
>> going
>> to call the shop today to see how much it would cost to install it, and
>> decided to just do it myself instead. Well, it took FOREVER. Really
>> because the instructions stunk (didn't seem like they were for the right
>> locker -- downloaded from the website). And there were a few... catches.
>>
>> For example, I couldn't use my thrust washers. I had all but given up on
>> the install (couldn't get both couplers in there -- one at a time; both
>> at
>> the same time, with side gears, without, etc.) when I called up my friend
>> and he said he didn't use his thrust washers. Not intentionally -- he

> just
>> forgot to use them. So I took the thrust washers off of the side gears,

> and
>> voila, everything fit. And when I say "fit", I mean it was very
>> difficult
>> just to get the two couplers in. Once installed, everything lined up the
>> way it should, with the proper clearances.
>>
>> Will there be problems with not using the thrust washers? Do I need to

> get
>> new, but wafer-thin ones? My stock ones were thin to begin with, but
>> were
>> still too thick to use.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>

>
>





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