Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
09-27-2003, 05:33 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
me too.
td
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> >- Bill, all those CJs were just practice to make the TJ.
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> <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>
> >- Bill, all those CJs were just practice to make the TJ.
>
> Tom, you owe me a new monitor, mine's now got apple cider srayed all
over...
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09-27-2003, 05:39 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
Nathan,
I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
td
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> > - OK, Nathan, that was a little over-the-top.
>
> <sigh>.....fine.
>
> dear chris,
> im sorry if my differing opinion hurt your feelings. im sorry if i have
> trouble with criticisms against the principles that make a swb jeep a swb
> jeep. im sorry that you cannot understand the different levels of jeep
> purism and just shake off the opinions that differ from yours, realizing
> that on the trail none of that matters anyway. im sorry you base your
> actions on the beliefs of others. im sorry you cant take my (and others
> according to your response) statements with a grain of salt. im sorry you
> dont seem to see the bigger picture (that on the trail nothing like this
> matters). in fact, if ANYBODY can tell me ANYTHING else that i can
> apologize for just let me know and ill do that right here in front of
> everybody because the LAST thing i want to do is hurt anybodys feelings.
>
>
> --
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> http://7SlotGrille.com
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I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
td
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:wSkdb.3935$si4.340@twister.southeast.rr.com.. .
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:%lhdb.320$zB2.274063474@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> > - OK, Nathan, that was a little over-the-top.
>
> <sigh>.....fine.
>
> dear chris,
> im sorry if my differing opinion hurt your feelings. im sorry if i have
> trouble with criticisms against the principles that make a swb jeep a swb
> jeep. im sorry that you cannot understand the different levels of jeep
> purism and just shake off the opinions that differ from yours, realizing
> that on the trail none of that matters anyway. im sorry you base your
> actions on the beliefs of others. im sorry you cant take my (and others
> according to your response) statements with a grain of salt. im sorry you
> dont seem to see the bigger picture (that on the trail nothing like this
> matters). in fact, if ANYBODY can tell me ANYTHING else that i can
> apologize for just let me know and ill do that right here in front of
> everybody because the LAST thing i want to do is hurt anybodys feelings.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
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09-27-2003, 05:39 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
Nathan,
I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
td
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:%lhdb.320$zB2.274063474@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> > - OK, Nathan, that was a little over-the-top.
>
> <sigh>.....fine.
>
> dear chris,
> im sorry if my differing opinion hurt your feelings. im sorry if i have
> trouble with criticisms against the principles that make a swb jeep a swb
> jeep. im sorry that you cannot understand the different levels of jeep
> purism and just shake off the opinions that differ from yours, realizing
> that on the trail none of that matters anyway. im sorry you base your
> actions on the beliefs of others. im sorry you cant take my (and others
> according to your response) statements with a grain of salt. im sorry you
> dont seem to see the bigger picture (that on the trail nothing like this
> matters). in fact, if ANYBODY can tell me ANYTHING else that i can
> apologize for just let me know and ill do that right here in front of
> everybody because the LAST thing i want to do is hurt anybodys feelings.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
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I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
td
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:wSkdb.3935$si4.340@twister.southeast.rr.com.. .
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:%lhdb.320$zB2.274063474@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> > - OK, Nathan, that was a little over-the-top.
>
> <sigh>.....fine.
>
> dear chris,
> im sorry if my differing opinion hurt your feelings. im sorry if i have
> trouble with criticisms against the principles that make a swb jeep a swb
> jeep. im sorry that you cannot understand the different levels of jeep
> purism and just shake off the opinions that differ from yours, realizing
> that on the trail none of that matters anyway. im sorry you base your
> actions on the beliefs of others. im sorry you cant take my (and others
> according to your response) statements with a grain of salt. im sorry you
> dont seem to see the bigger picture (that on the trail nothing like this
> matters). in fact, if ANYBODY can tell me ANYTHING else that i can
> apologize for just let me know and ill do that right here in front of
> everybody because the LAST thing i want to do is hurt anybodys feelings.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
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09-27-2003, 05:40 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
The Raiders can't help but win with Drew Brees playing for them,
and Junior playing for Miami.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
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> lol.....without a doubt......im sorry for that too! :-)
>
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and Junior playing for Miami.
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
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> lol.....without a doubt......im sorry for that too! :-)
>
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09-27-2003, 05:40 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
The Raiders can't help but win with Drew Brees playing for them,
and Junior playing for Miami.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> lol.....without a doubt......im sorry for that too! :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
and Junior playing for Miami.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> lol.....without a doubt......im sorry for that too! :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
09-27-2003, 05:51 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
Real Jeeps, have Short Wheel Base of 83.5" or shorter:
http://www.jeeppartsinfo.com/
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Tyler Dirden wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
> a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> td
http://www.jeeppartsinfo.com/
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tyler Dirden wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
> a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> td
09-27-2003, 05:51 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
Real Jeeps, have Short Wheel Base of 83.5" or shorter:
http://www.jeeppartsinfo.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tyler Dirden wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
> a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> td
http://www.jeeppartsinfo.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tyler Dirden wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
> a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> td
09-27-2003, 06:33 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
"Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
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> What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that
matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
they dont. its the trend towards creature comfort that is killing jeep.
one option at a time the change is happening.
first they announce that the yj would be sold in addition to the cj line,
then they kill the cj. then they announce that the xj would be sold in
addition to the kj, then they killed the xj (the ultimate pure utilitarian
suv). the solid axle is gone from the wj in '05, that much is already
known. eventually it will be gone from the swb, but thats just opinion so
maybe that doesnt count. theyre already talking at camp jeep about fixing
the front windshields so that they dont fold down. there is no more rubicon
trail challenge because the entire line up can no longer cross without
stacking it as flat as a back country road.
its not the power windows alone.....its the combined trend of options.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:hsndb.600152$YN5.444140@sccrnsc01...
> What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that
matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
they dont. its the trend towards creature comfort that is killing jeep.
one option at a time the change is happening.
first they announce that the yj would be sold in addition to the cj line,
then they kill the cj. then they announce that the xj would be sold in
addition to the kj, then they killed the xj (the ultimate pure utilitarian
suv). the solid axle is gone from the wj in '05, that much is already
known. eventually it will be gone from the swb, but thats just opinion so
maybe that doesnt count. theyre already talking at camp jeep about fixing
the front windshields so that they dont fold down. there is no more rubicon
trail challenge because the entire line up can no longer cross without
stacking it as flat as a back country road.
its not the power windows alone.....its the combined trend of options.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
09-27-2003, 06:33 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
"Tyler Dirden" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:hsndb.600152$YN5.444140@sccrnsc01...
> What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that
matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
they dont. its the trend towards creature comfort that is killing jeep.
one option at a time the change is happening.
first they announce that the yj would be sold in addition to the cj line,
then they kill the cj. then they announce that the xj would be sold in
addition to the kj, then they killed the xj (the ultimate pure utilitarian
suv). the solid axle is gone from the wj in '05, that much is already
known. eventually it will be gone from the swb, but thats just opinion so
maybe that doesnt count. theyre already talking at camp jeep about fixing
the front windshields so that they dont fold down. there is no more rubicon
trail challenge because the entire line up can no longer cross without
stacking it as flat as a back country road.
its not the power windows alone.....its the combined trend of options.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:hsndb.600152$YN5.444140@sccrnsc01...
> What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that
matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
they dont. its the trend towards creature comfort that is killing jeep.
one option at a time the change is happening.
first they announce that the yj would be sold in addition to the cj line,
then they kill the cj. then they announce that the xj would be sold in
addition to the kj, then they killed the xj (the ultimate pure utilitarian
suv). the solid axle is gone from the wj in '05, that much is already
known. eventually it will be gone from the swb, but thats just opinion so
maybe that doesnt count. theyre already talking at camp jeep about fixing
the front windshields so that they dont fold down. there is no more rubicon
trail challenge because the entire line up can no longer cross without
stacking it as flat as a back country road.
its not the power windows alone.....its the combined trend of options.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
09-27-2003, 06:50 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ: Power Windows..didn't someone say you couldn't do this??
Are you saying the CJ-6 and CJ-8 are not "real jeeps"? Get a grip, Bill!
You're "real jeep" crap is getting real old...
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Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeeps, have Short Wheel Base of 83.5" or shorter:
> http://www.jeeppartsinfo.com/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Tyler Dirden wrote:
> >
> > Nathan,
> >
> > I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this
from
> > a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how
power
> > windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that
matter)
> > cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> > td
You're "real jeep" crap is getting real old...
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F76064E.EA2389D7@***.net...
> Real Jeeps, have Short Wheel Base of 83.5" or shorter:
> http://www.jeeppartsinfo.com/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Tyler Dirden wrote:
> >
> > Nathan,
> >
> > I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this
from
> > a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how
power
> > windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that
matter)
> > cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> > td
