Chris

>I'll be ordering both kits from this company considering how cheep
>they are..

Considering that now yet again in the few posts I've made over the
past three years it again is met with BS comments, I'll take the
"liberty" (Not that I'd ever own an IFS vehicle) and remove my post,
and will simply withdraw completly from the forum.

If offering information that some others may be interested in is to
met with this kind of BS, I don't care for it, and won't be
bothering to stick around any longer.

It's not worth my time -- I'll simply keep anything else I run
across to myself.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

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Chris wrote:
>
> As I recall in a thread a few weeks back a few people were going off
> on some guy about how he couldn't have power windows in his Jeep
> TJ...blah blah...
>
> http://www.electric-life.com/preview/customfit.html
>
> I have to say considering the cost of my Jeep I was quite annoyed that
> I couldn't have power windows and door locks..
>
> I'll be ordering both kits from this company considering how cheep
> they are..

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

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Chris wrote:
>
> As I recall in a thread a few weeks back a few people were going off
> on some guy about how he couldn't have power windows in his Jeep
> TJ...blah blah...
>
> http://www.electric-life.com/preview/customfit.html
>
> I have to say considering the cost of my Jeep I was quite annoyed that
> I couldn't have power windows and door locks..
>
> I'll be ordering both kits from this company considering how cheep
> they are..

Nathan W. Collier

"Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
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> You know -- it's attitudes like this that have kept me from joining
> any jeep clubs

to bad you base your actions on what others believe. im a jeep purist, less
than some and moreso than others. when you make a post in a public forum
you are either asking for the opinions of others, or trying to sell a
product. dont get upset with me because i find your thinking to be off. id
still help you on the trail and hope that you would do the same. core
differences in priciple will never go away.


> So where the HELL do you get off with your assinine attitude
> bitching at me because I want power windows and power locks.

so GET THEM. i dont care what you do to your jeep. my response was based
upon your suggestion that swb jeeps should come from the factory with power
windows. those whacky germans are dismantling jeep heritage one piece at a
time, and all to satisfy people that want more and more comfort and less
rugged durability.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
news:4d9anvob95pnri77s9jgftigdhdudbocpl@4ax.com...
> You know -- it's attitudes like this that have kept me from joining
> any jeep clubs

to bad you base your actions on what others believe. im a jeep purist, less
than some and moreso than others. when you make a post in a public forum
you are either asking for the opinions of others, or trying to sell a
product. dont get upset with me because i find your thinking to be off. id
still help you on the trail and hope that you would do the same. core
differences in priciple will never go away.


> So where the HELL do you get off with your assinine attitude
> bitching at me because I want power windows and power locks.

so GET THEM. i dont care what you do to your jeep. my response was based
upon your suggestion that swb jeeps should come from the factory with power
windows. those whacky germans are dismantling jeep heritage one piece at a
time, and all to satisfy people that want more and more comfort and less
rugged durability.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:dJ9db.41417$eX1.23671@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I guess that's why we have the aftermarket, so that we
> can make the changes we want to our vehicle.

_bullseye_!

> No one says that everyone will
> like what he do/add to our vehicles, but if it is what we want, then who
> cares?

agreed! it was the suggestion that a swb jeep should come equipped with
power windows that i find fault in. maybe i over-reacted a little, but i
hate seeing the trend that i believe will kill the heritage that makes jeep
jeep.


> This is my point. Why is cruise control not considered a "yuppie" option
and
> power windows and locks are?

i got cruise for one reason......to manually over-ride the factory settings
to function as a hand throttle at low speeds. although its not quite as
necessary with an automatic, i believe this will be beneficial to me in
technical areas.

> Jumping all over someone could potentially make someone say "screw this
> newsgroup" when in fact they may have a lot of good info, advice,
> multimedia, or whatever.

agreed. i _really_ didnt think i was jumping all over him though.
criticizing his thinking surely.....isnt that why we post, for feedback?

> one of these people that we run
> off may be the person coming down the trail when we're stuck bad
somewhere,
> or broke down, or whatever.

i dont care _what_ youre driving (jeep, h2, liberty) if youre broke down on
the trail im going to stop to help because i am a jeeper. i wouldnt think
that a little criticism of someones beliefs on what makes a jeep would
change anything like that.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:dJ9db.41417$eX1.23671@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I guess that's why we have the aftermarket, so that we
> can make the changes we want to our vehicle.

_bullseye_!

> No one says that everyone will
> like what he do/add to our vehicles, but if it is what we want, then who
> cares?

agreed! it was the suggestion that a swb jeep should come equipped with
power windows that i find fault in. maybe i over-reacted a little, but i
hate seeing the trend that i believe will kill the heritage that makes jeep
jeep.


> This is my point. Why is cruise control not considered a "yuppie" option
and
> power windows and locks are?

i got cruise for one reason......to manually over-ride the factory settings
to function as a hand throttle at low speeds. although its not quite as
necessary with an automatic, i believe this will be beneficial to me in
technical areas.

> Jumping all over someone could potentially make someone say "screw this
> newsgroup" when in fact they may have a lot of good info, advice,
> multimedia, or whatever.

agreed. i _really_ didnt think i was jumping all over him though.
criticizing his thinking surely.....isnt that why we post, for feedback?

> one of these people that we run
> off may be the person coming down the trail when we're stuck bad
somewhere,
> or broke down, or whatever.

i dont care _what_ youre driving (jeep, h2, liberty) if youre broke down on
the trail im going to stop to help because i am a jeeper. i wouldnt think
that a little criticism of someones beliefs on what makes a jeep would
change anything like that.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
news:3r9anvsb97cdsp456hfcbk426rrfrj5tkn@4ax.com...
> I've been in here for years -- I don't post most of the time because
> people inevitibly like to reduce it to posts like yours and worse.

oh come on......you cant possibly be so thin skinned that you cant take a
bit of criticism. i said your way of thinking is killing jeep. i didnt
call you "stupid" (like you did me), i didnt say anything "mean" about your
mother, and i didnt wish you any harm. sheesh.....are we so hypersensitive
that any criticism makes you a martyr?

> I ran accross some parts that despite your narrow views on things
> I'm sure some people would be interested in. ISN'T THAT ONE OF
> THE MAIN POINTS OF FORUMS LIKE THIS?

i didnt criticize you for posting the link. i criticized your expectations
of what a jeep is and what it should be.



--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Chris" <repcri@telus.net.spam> wrote in message
news:3r9anvsb97cdsp456hfcbk426rrfrj5tkn@4ax.com...
> I've been in here for years -- I don't post most of the time because
> people inevitibly like to reduce it to posts like yours and worse.

oh come on......you cant possibly be so thin skinned that you cant take a
bit of criticism. i said your way of thinking is killing jeep. i didnt
call you "stupid" (like you did me), i didnt say anything "mean" about your
mother, and i didnt wish you any harm. sheesh.....are we so hypersensitive
that any criticism makes you a martyr?

> I ran accross some parts that despite your narrow views on things
> I'm sure some people would be interested in. ISN'T THAT ONE OF
> THE MAIN POINTS OF FORUMS LIKE THIS?

i didnt criticize you for posting the link. i criticized your expectations
of what a jeep is and what it should be.



--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:HP9db.24652$gv5.11211@fed1read05...
> The crap you responded to is why I've cut my participation in this
newsgroup
> by 99%.

.....yet once again you charged in on your holier-than-thou horse as if youve
never put your foot in your own mouth. lets be honest, i think we all know
why ouve cut your participation down so much.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com