"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
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> In article <Heodb.8175$1q.5625@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Nathan W.
Collier"
> <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> writes:
>
> >then they killed the xj (the ultimate pure utilitarian
> >suv).
>
> Hmm, mine had AC and power windows

i never said my opinions were based in reason or even rational thought. its
purely sentimental....its _my_ "jeep thing".

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"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
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> And too bad they can't simply split the models into the
> P-wagons such as the Liberty, Grand Cherokee, Grand Wagoneer,
> etc. and then move the other series into the hardcore
> direction

agreed!


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"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
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> And too bad they can't simply split the models into the
> P-wagons such as the Liberty, Grand Cherokee, Grand Wagoneer,
> etc. and then move the other series into the hardcore
> direction

agreed!


--
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http://7SlotGrille.com

 

I'll agree with that too, and everybody has varying levels of what they
want and don't want. I personally LOVE the improvements on the soft tops
since my CJ7s, but someone else may decide that is decadence of the
marque purely for the opulent. I think it f-in' groovy.

While I'd never put power windows/locks on my TJ (mainly because I
either usually go with no top or a soft top and it's either minus doors
or unlocked) but I sure like the fact that it's an option on the
aftermarket. I certainly don't think that aftermarket products of any
kind ruin any automotive ICON.

If they brought out the "CJ Classic" built just as they were in late 86,
I'd sure make the purchase with the flat, no-airbag dash and all...with
A/C. :)

Tyler Dirden wrote:

> Nathan,
>
> I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
> a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> td
>
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:wSkdb.3935$si4.340@twister.southeast.rr.com.. .
>
>>"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:%lhdb.320$zB2.274063474@newssvr11.news.prod igy.com...
>>
>>>- OK, Nathan, that was a little over-the-top.
>>
>><sigh>.....fine.
>>
>>dear chris,
>>im sorry if my differing opinion hurt your feelings. im sorry if i have
>>trouble with criticisms against the principles that make a swb jeep a swb
>>jeep. im sorry that you cannot understand the different levels of jeep
>>purism and just shake off the opinions that differ from yours, realizing
>>that on the trail none of that matters anyway. im sorry you base your
>>actions on the beliefs of others. im sorry you cant take my (and others
>>according to your response) statements with a grain of salt. im sorry you
>>dont seem to see the bigger picture (that on the trail nothing like this
>>matters). in fact, if ANYBODY can tell me ANYTHING else that i can
>>apologize for just let me know and ill do that right here in front of
>>everybody because the LAST thing i want to do is hurt anybodys feelings.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Nathan W. Collier
>>http://7SlotGrille.com
>>
>>
>>
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I'll agree with that too, and everybody has varying levels of what they
want and don't want. I personally LOVE the improvements on the soft tops
since my CJ7s, but someone else may decide that is decadence of the
marque purely for the opulent. I think it f-in' groovy.

While I'd never put power windows/locks on my TJ (mainly because I
either usually go with no top or a soft top and it's either minus doors
or unlocked) but I sure like the fact that it's an option on the
aftermarket. I certainly don't think that aftermarket products of any
kind ruin any automotive ICON.

If they brought out the "CJ Classic" built just as they were in late 86,
I'd sure make the purchase with the flat, no-airbag dash and all...with
A/C. :)

Tyler Dirden wrote:

> Nathan,
>
> I agree with you, Jeeps don't need any further creature comforts (this from
> a fellow Rubi owner who enjoys AC). What I don't see however, is how power
> windows (or AC, CD players, headlight shape or coil springs for that matter)
> cause a SWB vehicle to be anything other than a SWB vehicle.
> td
>
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:wSkdb.3935$si4.340@twister.southeast.rr.com.. .
>
>>"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:%lhdb.320$zB2.274063474@newssvr11.news.prod igy.com...
>>
>>>- OK, Nathan, that was a little over-the-top.
>>
>><sigh>.....fine.
>>
>>dear chris,
>>im sorry if my differing opinion hurt your feelings. im sorry if i have
>>trouble with criticisms against the principles that make a swb jeep a swb
>>jeep. im sorry that you cannot understand the different levels of jeep
>>purism and just shake off the opinions that differ from yours, realizing
>>that on the trail none of that matters anyway. im sorry you base your
>>actions on the beliefs of others. im sorry you cant take my (and others
>>according to your response) statements with a grain of salt. im sorry you
>>dont seem to see the bigger picture (that on the trail nothing like this
>>matters). in fact, if ANYBODY can tell me ANYTHING else that i can
>>apologize for just let me know and ill do that right here in front of
>>everybody because the LAST thing i want to do is hurt anybodys feelings.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Nathan W. Collier
>>http://7SlotGrille.com
>>
>>
>>
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03 TJ Rubicon
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Aw, he just doesn't know that a REAL JEEP was made by Bantam and his old
CJ2 is a bastardization of that original. :)

TJim wrote:

> Are you saying the CJ-6 and CJ-8 are not "real jeeps"? Get a grip, Bill!
> You're "real jeep" crap is getting real old...
>

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__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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Aw, he just doesn't know that a REAL JEEP was made by Bantam and his old
CJ2 is a bastardization of that original. :)

TJim wrote:

> Are you saying the CJ-6 and CJ-8 are not "real jeeps"? Get a grip, Bill!
> You're "real jeep" crap is getting real old...
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________

 

Don't say nothin' bad about my CJ-2AAA! ;-)
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twaldron wrote:
>
> Aw, he just doesn't know that a REAL JEEP was made by Bantam and his old
> CJ2 is a bastardization of that original. :)
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Don't say nothin' bad about my CJ-2AAA! ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Aw, he just doesn't know that a REAL JEEP was made by Bantam and his old
> CJ2 is a bastardization of that original. :)
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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my jeep didnt have power windows or locks.. i wanted them.. i bought some
actuators and installed them with my alarm (locks) and rememebr a "how to" for
power windows on someones webpage, so i used that to source my parts and
installed. i think a few months later a kit became available lol. oh well..

anyways there are always things to complain about in any vehicle.. and doing
the above was a HELL of a lot cheaper than trying to get my rx7 to handle the
mud and rocks as well as the jeep did. :)
-Steve 98 TJ