In article <742osv43m8h7ou63dlvrp1npie7oksscq4@4ax.com>, DTJ <dtj@comcast.net>
writes:

>Now, why have all my Honda's done so well? Simple. Bought NEW, with
>LESS THAN 10 miles on them. Dealer never had a chance to ---- them
>up. Took care of them. Pretty simple, huh?

You got me there. My wife's Oddessy had 12 miles on it. That's about the
distance from our leasing dealership to the dealership where it was located.

mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) writes:

>My wife's 2003 Honda Oddyssey never burned any oil...it just left puddles of
>it
>whenever it was parked a week after we took delivery. Figured it was losing
>about 1 qt every 200 miles. A new oil pan, seal, and SHORTBLOCK later, all
>before 1100 miles on the odo, it still leaks and we are now in lemon law
>proceedings.
>
>My '96 Ford Club Wagon, that's another story. Had 113,000 miles on it when I
>sold it and it never leaked or burned a drop of oil.


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On 01 Dec 2003 06:42 PM, DTJ posted the following:
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:04:10 GMT, Lon Stowell
> <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
>
>> Umm, not to question your credibility and record keeping here,
>> but that would be roughly equivalent to something like a full
>> engine rebuild roughly every two years. Unless you have the
>
> Notice I never mentioned the condition of the car when I bought it,
> much like the ------- azguy who forgot to mention that the imports he
> bought were all pieces of ---- due to the previous owner's abuse,
> added to by his inability to find where to stick the dipstick. Sort
> of the same problem he has finding other holes.

He's obviously found at least one -------.

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On 01 Dec 2003 06:42 PM, DTJ posted the following:
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:04:10 GMT, Lon Stowell
> <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
>
>> Umm, not to question your credibility and record keeping here,
>> but that would be roughly equivalent to something like a full
>> engine rebuild roughly every two years. Unless you have the
>
> Notice I never mentioned the condition of the car when I bought it,
> much like the ------- azguy who forgot to mention that the imports he
> bought were all pieces of ---- due to the previous owner's abuse,
> added to by his inability to find where to stick the dipstick. Sort
> of the same problem he has finding other holes.

He's obviously found at least one -------.

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On 01 Dec 2003 06:42 PM, DTJ posted the following:
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:04:10 GMT, Lon Stowell
> <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
>
>> Umm, not to question your credibility and record keeping here,
>> but that would be roughly equivalent to something like a full
>> engine rebuild roughly every two years. Unless you have the
>
> Notice I never mentioned the condition of the car when I bought it,
> much like the ------- azguy who forgot to mention that the imports he
> bought were all pieces of ---- due to the previous owner's abuse,
> added to by his inability to find where to stick the dipstick. Sort
> of the same problem he has finding other holes.

He's obviously found at least one -------.

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Chris Phillipo wrote:

> Expensive parts are what make a car expensive. Get it?

No, expensive cars make otherwise standard replacement parts expensive.
There is no reason a replacement starter or alternator for a Cressida
should cost more than a Crown starter or alternator. A friend used to
work in a Chevy parts department. He claimed that if you looked up a
"Corvette" part, it would cost 15 to 20% more than the exact same part
for another Chevrolet.

Ed

 

Chris Phillipo wrote:

> Expensive parts are what make a car expensive. Get it?

No, expensive cars make otherwise standard replacement parts expensive.
There is no reason a replacement starter or alternator for a Cressida
should cost more than a Crown starter or alternator. A friend used to
work in a Chevy parts department. He claimed that if you looked up a
"Corvette" part, it would cost 15 to 20% more than the exact same part
for another Chevrolet.

Ed

 

Chris Phillipo wrote:

> Expensive parts are what make a car expensive. Get it?

No, expensive cars make otherwise standard replacement parts expensive.
There is no reason a replacement starter or alternator for a Cressida
should cost more than a Crown starter or alternator. A friend used to
work in a Chevy parts department. He claimed that if you looked up a
"Corvette" part, it would cost 15 to 20% more than the exact same part
for another Chevrolet.

Ed

 

DTJ wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:39:49 -0500, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >Car (new/used, approximate reapir expenses, mileage when disposed)
> >'83 Toyota Cressida (new, $3000, 80k miles) - sold
> >'75 Datsun 280 Z (new, $1500, 50k miles) - sold to friend
> >'83 Mazda 626 (new, $1100, 60k miles) - sold to Sister
> >The lsit does not include routine maintenace and wear items (brake pads,
> >etc.).
>
> Interesting how you compare the worst years of imports against the
> "best" years of domestics. Not that ford, chrysler or GM really have
> "best" years...

What do you mean? I also listed domestics from the 70's, 80's, '90, '00
- you just cut off all the good cars. Are you implying that all those
years were the "best" years for domestics? I am only comparing what I
owned. After that Toyota, I wasn't really interested in getting screwed
again. It wasn't just that the Toyota was a money pit, it was also slow,
ugly, cramped, and handled like a horse cart. At least the Datsun drove
nicely and looked great. The Mazda was a nice body style (5 door), got
decent gas mileage, and had a nice transmisison (5 speed). The Toyta had
no redeeming values except that my ex liked it (but amazingly she was
more than ready to get rid of it when the transmission screwed up). Oh
what a feeling.

Ed

 

DTJ wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:39:49 -0500, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >Car (new/used, approximate reapir expenses, mileage when disposed)
> >'83 Toyota Cressida (new, $3000, 80k miles) - sold
> >'75 Datsun 280 Z (new, $1500, 50k miles) - sold to friend
> >'83 Mazda 626 (new, $1100, 60k miles) - sold to Sister
> >The lsit does not include routine maintenace and wear items (brake pads,
> >etc.).
>
> Interesting how you compare the worst years of imports against the
> "best" years of domestics. Not that ford, chrysler or GM really have
> "best" years...

What do you mean? I also listed domestics from the 70's, 80's, '90, '00
- you just cut off all the good cars. Are you implying that all those
years were the "best" years for domestics? I am only comparing what I
owned. After that Toyota, I wasn't really interested in getting screwed
again. It wasn't just that the Toyota was a money pit, it was also slow,
ugly, cramped, and handled like a horse cart. At least the Datsun drove
nicely and looked great. The Mazda was a nice body style (5 door), got
decent gas mileage, and had a nice transmisison (5 speed). The Toyta had
no redeeming values except that my ex liked it (but amazingly she was
more than ready to get rid of it when the transmission screwed up). Oh
what a feeling.

Ed

 

DTJ wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:39:49 -0500, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >Car (new/used, approximate reapir expenses, mileage when disposed)
> >'83 Toyota Cressida (new, $3000, 80k miles) - sold
> >'75 Datsun 280 Z (new, $1500, 50k miles) - sold to friend
> >'83 Mazda 626 (new, $1100, 60k miles) - sold to Sister
> >The lsit does not include routine maintenace and wear items (brake pads,
> >etc.).
>
> Interesting how you compare the worst years of imports against the
> "best" years of domestics. Not that ford, chrysler or GM really have
> "best" years...

What do you mean? I also listed domestics from the 70's, 80's, '90, '00
- you just cut off all the good cars. Are you implying that all those
years were the "best" years for domestics? I am only comparing what I
owned. After that Toyota, I wasn't really interested in getting screwed
again. It wasn't just that the Toyota was a money pit, it was also slow,
ugly, cramped, and handled like a horse cart. At least the Datsun drove
nicely and looked great. The Mazda was a nice body style (5 door), got
decent gas mileage, and had a nice transmisison (5 speed). The Toyta had
no redeeming values except that my ex liked it (but amazingly she was
more than ready to get rid of it when the transmission screwed up). Oh
what a feeling.

Ed