installing power brakes on a cj?
12-08-2003, 02:22 AM
#71
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
>I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
>> jeep junkyard . . . .
Carmine,
If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding a
Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power. The
stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29" tires
and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range where
precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon and a
rollover.
If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad in
Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster and
GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a simple
bolt in, and it works.
Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster - master
cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in, although
you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in Pomona
Ca to get the pedal height right.
Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big tires
with good pedal feel.
Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on the
Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family and
yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you might
kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>> jeep junkyard . . . .
Carmine,
If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding a
Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power. The
stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29" tires
and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range where
precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon and a
rollover.
If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad in
Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster and
GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a simple
bolt in, and it works.
Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster - master
cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in, although
you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in Pomona
Ca to get the pedal height right.
Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big tires
with good pedal feel.
Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on the
Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family and
yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you might
kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
12-08-2003, 02:22 AM
#72
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
>I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
>> jeep junkyard . . . .
Carmine,
If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding a
Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power. The
stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29" tires
and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range where
precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon and a
rollover.
If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad in
Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster and
GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a simple
bolt in, and it works.
Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster - master
cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in, although
you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in Pomona
Ca to get the pedal height right.
Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big tires
with good pedal feel.
Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on the
Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family and
yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you might
kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>> jeep junkyard . . . .
Carmine,
If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding a
Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power. The
stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29" tires
and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range where
precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon and a
rollover.
If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad in
Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster and
GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a simple
bolt in, and it works.
Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster - master
cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in, although
you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in Pomona
Ca to get the pedal height right.
Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big tires
with good pedal feel.
Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on the
Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family and
yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you might
kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
12-08-2003, 02:22 AM
#73
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
>I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
>> jeep junkyard . . . .
Carmine,
If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding a
Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power. The
stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29" tires
and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range where
precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon and a
rollover.
If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad in
Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster and
GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a simple
bolt in, and it works.
Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster - master
cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in, although
you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in Pomona
Ca to get the pedal height right.
Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big tires
with good pedal feel.
Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on the
Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family and
yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you might
kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>> jeep junkyard . . . .
Carmine,
If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding a
Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power. The
stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29" tires
and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range where
precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon and a
rollover.
If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad in
Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster and
GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a simple
bolt in, and it works.
Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster - master
cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in, although
you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in Pomona
Ca to get the pedal height right.
Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big tires
with good pedal feel.
Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on the
Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family and
yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you might
kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
12-08-2003, 05:14 AM
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
On 07 Dec 2003 10:22 PM, Robert Bills posted the following:
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought
> on the Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of
> your family and yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the
> innocent people you might kill with the jury rigged system you bought
> on the cheap.
I believe you are wasting your breath on this one.
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> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought
> on the Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of
> your family and yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the
> innocent people you might kill with the jury rigged system you bought
> on the cheap.
I believe you are wasting your breath on this one.
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12-08-2003, 05:14 AM
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
On 07 Dec 2003 10:22 PM, Robert Bills posted the following:
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought
> on the Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of
> your family and yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the
> innocent people you might kill with the jury rigged system you bought
> on the cheap.
I believe you are wasting your breath on this one.
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> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought
> on the Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of
> your family and yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the
> innocent people you might kill with the jury rigged system you bought
> on the cheap.
I believe you are wasting your breath on this one.
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
On 07 Dec 2003 10:22 PM, Robert Bills posted the following:
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought
> on the Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of
> your family and yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the
> innocent people you might kill with the jury rigged system you bought
> on the cheap.
I believe you are wasting your breath on this one.
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> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought
> on the Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of
> your family and yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the
> innocent people you might kill with the jury rigged system you bought
> on the cheap.
I believe you are wasting your breath on this one.
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12-08-2003, 05:59 PM
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
Robert thank you for giving me some options on what to do with my brakes. I
bought the jeep with 32" tires on it that have about 25% life left on them.
I have 2.73 gears and don't want to go for the cash to regear it so for the
sack of brakes and gearing I think I will go down to 31" tires this spring.
thanks carmine
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031208022229.04031.00000449@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
> >> jeep junkyard . . . .
>
> Carmine,
>
> If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding
a
> Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power.
The
> stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29"
tires
> and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range
where
> precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon
and a
> rollover.
>
> If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad
in
> Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster
and
> GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a
simple
> bolt in, and it works.
>
> Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster -
master
> cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in,
although
> you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in
Pomona
> Ca to get the pedal height right.
>
> Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big
tires
> with good pedal feel.
>
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on
the
> Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family
and
> yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you
might
> kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
>
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
bought the jeep with 32" tires on it that have about 25% life left on them.
I have 2.73 gears and don't want to go for the cash to regear it so for the
sack of brakes and gearing I think I will go down to 31" tires this spring.
thanks carmine
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031208022229.04031.00000449@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
> >> jeep junkyard . . . .
>
> Carmine,
>
> If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding
a
> Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power.
The
> stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29"
tires
> and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range
where
> precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon
and a
> rollover.
>
> If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad
in
> Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster
and
> GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a
simple
> bolt in, and it works.
>
> Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster -
master
> cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in,
although
> you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in
Pomona
> Ca to get the pedal height right.
>
> Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big
tires
> with good pedal feel.
>
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on
the
> Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family
and
> yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you
might
> kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
>
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
12-08-2003, 05:59 PM
#78
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
Robert thank you for giving me some options on what to do with my brakes. I
bought the jeep with 32" tires on it that have about 25% life left on them.
I have 2.73 gears and don't want to go for the cash to regear it so for the
sack of brakes and gearing I think I will go down to 31" tires this spring.
thanks carmine
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031208022229.04031.00000449@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
> >> jeep junkyard . . . .
>
> Carmine,
>
> If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding
a
> Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power.
The
> stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29"
tires
> and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range
where
> precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon
and a
> rollover.
>
> If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad
in
> Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster
and
> GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a
simple
> bolt in, and it works.
>
> Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster -
master
> cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in,
although
> you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in
Pomona
> Ca to get the pedal height right.
>
> Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big
tires
> with good pedal feel.
>
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on
the
> Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family
and
> yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you
might
> kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
>
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
bought the jeep with 32" tires on it that have about 25% life left on them.
I have 2.73 gears and don't want to go for the cash to regear it so for the
sack of brakes and gearing I think I will go down to 31" tires this spring.
thanks carmine
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031208022229.04031.00000449@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
> >> jeep junkyard . . . .
>
> Carmine,
>
> If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding
a
> Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power.
The
> stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29"
tires
> and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range
where
> precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon
and a
> rollover.
>
> If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad
in
> Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster
and
> GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a
simple
> bolt in, and it works.
>
> Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster -
master
> cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in,
although
> you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in
Pomona
> Ca to get the pedal height right.
>
> Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big
tires
> with good pedal feel.
>
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on
the
> Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family
and
> yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you
might
> kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
>
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
12-08-2003, 05:59 PM
#79
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Re: installing power brakes on a cj?
Robert thank you for giving me some options on what to do with my brakes. I
bought the jeep with 32" tires on it that have about 25% life left on them.
I have 2.73 gears and don't want to go for the cash to regear it so for the
sack of brakes and gearing I think I will go down to 31" tires this spring.
thanks carmine
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031208022229.04031.00000449@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
> >> jeep junkyard . . . .
>
> Carmine,
>
> If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding
a
> Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power.
The
> stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29"
tires
> and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range
where
> precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon
and a
> rollover.
>
> If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad
in
> Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster
and
> GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a
simple
> bolt in, and it works.
>
> Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster -
master
> cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in,
although
> you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in
Pomona
> Ca to get the pedal height right.
>
> Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big
tires
> with good pedal feel.
>
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on
the
> Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family
and
> yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you
might
> kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
>
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
bought the jeep with 32" tires on it that have about 25% life left on them.
I have 2.73 gears and don't want to go for the cash to regear it so for the
sack of brakes and gearing I think I will go down to 31" tires this spring.
thanks carmine
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031208022229.04031.00000449@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I am listening to a guy on ebay . . . because he is the owner of a
> >> jeep junkyard . . . .
>
> Carmine,
>
> If you are running bigger tires on your CJ (i.e., larger than 31"), adding
a
> Wrangler booster and master cylinder won't give you enough stopping power.
The
> stock brake system (CJ or YJ, vacuum assisted or not) is designed for 29"
tires
> and won't handle the rolling mass of big meats, especially in low range
where
> precise braking control can make the difference between a fun afternoon
and a
> rollover.
>
> If you are going to do this, do it right. Harold Off at Off Again Offroad
in
> Farmington NM sells a power brake conversion that uses a two-stage booster
and
> GM master cylinder from a 1/2 ton truck. The kit is complete, its a
simple
> bolt in, and it works.
>
> Another option is to use the booster bracket from a YJ with a booster -
master
> cylinder combo from a late 70's full size Dodge Van, nearly a bolt in,
although
> you may need to buy an adjustable brake linkage from Tri-County Gear in
Pomona
> Ca to get the pedal height right.
>
> Both of these options will give you the braking power you need for big
tires
> with good pedal feel.
>
> Admittedly, these options cost more than the eBay special you bought on
the
> Internet, but you get what you pay for. Aren't the lives of your family
and
> yourself worth it? [Not to mention the lives of the innocent people you
might
> kill with the jury rigged system you bought on the cheap.]
>
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
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