If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
07-18-2006, 12:41 PM
#61
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
Why would anyone even WANT to run that Amsoil crap. It's NOT certified,
it's MORE expensive than any other premium synthetic oil, and it's NO
better than any other premium synthetic engine oil. You are just one of
the gullible types who have bought into and swallowed hook line and
sinker Amsoil's carefully concocted hype. Sure it's good oil, but it's
no better than anything else that costs less that works just as well.
It's just pretty sad that you're so thoroughly indoctrinated you will
continue defending it out of your pride.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Cooking oil has about the same certification for use in an engine as
>> spamsoil so you may as well just use that eh. Either way you will void
>> the engine warranty.
>>
>> You spamsoil droids are sometimes just too stupid for words.
>>
>
>
> Find me someone who 1) used Amsoil, 2) failed an engine in warranty,
> and 3) was denied warranty coverage.
>
> If you only care about getting the warrantied life from the engine
> there is no point in using any premium oil. Most all engines today make
> warranty. Those that don't, usually don't fail because the oil wasn't
> up to snuff.
>
> Amsoil's lack of certification is not a problem per se, as carmakers
> don't analyze the oil from failed engines. They'd never know.
>
> I don't know the price of every synthetic oil on the market and it
> well may be that there are better cheaper oils than Amsoil. Mobil 1 is
> not. It's no cheaper certainly.
>
> As I said before I am not an Amsoil dealer and don't necessarily
> prefer synthetics for general use. But your hate for Amsoil is based
> on nonsense and as such I feel the need to show it for what it is.
> Amsoil is a MLM but last I heard that was legal. They are not engaging
> in high power pressure tactics like Amway or a few others.
>
> FWIW I did put the Amsoil products in my truck's transmission and rear
> end. They now run quieter and possibly cooler (the temperature has gone
> up 25 degrees making it hard to tell). On the other hand if I have to
> replace seals i will have no one to blame but myself.
>
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it's MORE expensive than any other premium synthetic oil, and it's NO
better than any other premium synthetic engine oil. You are just one of
the gullible types who have bought into and swallowed hook line and
sinker Amsoil's carefully concocted hype. Sure it's good oil, but it's
no better than anything else that costs less that works just as well.
It's just pretty sad that you're so thoroughly indoctrinated you will
continue defending it out of your pride.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Cooking oil has about the same certification for use in an engine as
>> spamsoil so you may as well just use that eh. Either way you will void
>> the engine warranty.
>>
>> You spamsoil droids are sometimes just too stupid for words.
>>
>
>
> Find me someone who 1) used Amsoil, 2) failed an engine in warranty,
> and 3) was denied warranty coverage.
>
> If you only care about getting the warrantied life from the engine
> there is no point in using any premium oil. Most all engines today make
> warranty. Those that don't, usually don't fail because the oil wasn't
> up to snuff.
>
> Amsoil's lack of certification is not a problem per se, as carmakers
> don't analyze the oil from failed engines. They'd never know.
>
> I don't know the price of every synthetic oil on the market and it
> well may be that there are better cheaper oils than Amsoil. Mobil 1 is
> not. It's no cheaper certainly.
>
> As I said before I am not an Amsoil dealer and don't necessarily
> prefer synthetics for general use. But your hate for Amsoil is based
> on nonsense and as such I feel the need to show it for what it is.
> Amsoil is a MLM but last I heard that was legal. They are not engaging
> in high power pressure tactics like Amway or a few others.
>
> FWIW I did put the Amsoil products in my truck's transmission and rear
> end. They now run quieter and possibly cooler (the temperature has gone
> up 25 degrees making it hard to tell). On the other hand if I have to
> replace seals i will have no one to blame but myself.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-18-2006, 09:55 PM
#62
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153229874.805740.96110@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >
>> > Amsoil is a MLM but last I heard that was legal. They are not engaging
>> > in high power pressure tactics like Amway or a few others.
>>
>> Amsoil is not API certified, and you seem to keep forgetting that.
>>
>
>
> No law requires it to be.
Manufacturers warranties do.
Further most other specialist synthetics are
> not either.
Shall I read to you the API seal on my bottle of Mobil 1?
07-18-2006, 09:55 PM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153229874.805740.96110@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >
>> > Amsoil is a MLM but last I heard that was legal. They are not engaging
>> > in high power pressure tactics like Amway or a few others.
>>
>> Amsoil is not API certified, and you seem to keep forgetting that.
>>
>
>
> No law requires it to be.
Manufacturers warranties do.
Further most other specialist synthetics are
> not either.
Shall I read to you the API seal on my bottle of Mobil 1?
07-18-2006, 09:55 PM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153234215.272828.184690@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153229874.805740.96110@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >
>> > Amsoil is a MLM but last I heard that was legal. They are not engaging
>> > in high power pressure tactics like Amway or a few others.
>>
>> Amsoil is not API certified, and you seem to keep forgetting that.
>>
>
>
> No law requires it to be.
Manufacturers warranties do.
Further most other specialist synthetics are
> not either.
Shall I read to you the API seal on my bottle of Mobil 1?
07-18-2006, 10:00 PM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well, yeah. But if the oil had nothing to do with it they'd probably
> not care. And if it DID Amsoil has a warranty, which is not perfect but
> better than no warranty.
>
Yep. From Amsoil's warranty at http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx:
"In cases where the OEM warranty is still in effect and that warranty
coverage is denied based on the use of an AMSOIL lubricant, the customer
shall immediately notify AMSOIL INC. and provide a written copy of the OEM
warranty denial. "
07-18-2006, 10:00 PM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well, yeah. But if the oil had nothing to do with it they'd probably
> not care. And if it DID Amsoil has a warranty, which is not perfect but
> better than no warranty.
>
Yep. From Amsoil's warranty at http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx:
"In cases where the OEM warranty is still in effect and that warranty
coverage is denied based on the use of an AMSOIL lubricant, the customer
shall immediately notify AMSOIL INC. and provide a written copy of the OEM
warranty denial. "
07-18-2006, 10:00 PM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153234343.625300.154170@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Well, yeah. But if the oil had nothing to do with it they'd probably
> not care. And if it DID Amsoil has a warranty, which is not perfect but
> better than no warranty.
>
Yep. From Amsoil's warranty at http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx:
"In cases where the OEM warranty is still in effect and that warranty
coverage is denied based on the use of an AMSOIL lubricant, the customer
shall immediately notify AMSOIL INC. and provide a written copy of the OEM
warranty denial. "
07-19-2006, 12:32 AM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Why would anyone even WANT to run that Amsoil crap. It's NOT certified,
> it's MORE expensive than any other premium synthetic oil, and it's NO
> better than any other premium synthetic engine oil. You are just one of
> the gullible types who have bought into and swallowed hook line and
> sinker Amsoil's carefully concocted hype. Sure it's good oil, but it's
> no better than anything else that costs less that works just as well.
>
"Sure, it's good oil".... My point exactly.
> It's just pretty sad that you're so thoroughly indoctrinated you will
> continue defending it out of your pride.
I am not indoctrinated. I point out facts. I don't necessarily
recommend synthetic oil and if you can get a better oil cheaper you
should. Buy on price and quality.....it happens that sometimes Amsoil
might be the cheapest in its class. Other true specialist synthetics
are no cheaper. Mobil 1 is a consumer product. They have another
synthetic that is better, but mor money and not widely distributed, I
think.
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
In other words, the advanced student ticket. When you get your ATP you
can brag.
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-19-2006, 12:32 AM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Why would anyone even WANT to run that Amsoil crap. It's NOT certified,
> it's MORE expensive than any other premium synthetic oil, and it's NO
> better than any other premium synthetic engine oil. You are just one of
> the gullible types who have bought into and swallowed hook line and
> sinker Amsoil's carefully concocted hype. Sure it's good oil, but it's
> no better than anything else that costs less that works just as well.
>
"Sure, it's good oil".... My point exactly.
> It's just pretty sad that you're so thoroughly indoctrinated you will
> continue defending it out of your pride.
I am not indoctrinated. I point out facts. I don't necessarily
recommend synthetic oil and if you can get a better oil cheaper you
should. Buy on price and quality.....it happens that sometimes Amsoil
might be the cheapest in its class. Other true specialist synthetics
are no cheaper. Mobil 1 is a consumer product. They have another
synthetic that is better, but mor money and not widely distributed, I
think.
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
In other words, the advanced student ticket. When you get your ATP you
can brag.
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-19-2006, 12:32 AM
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Re: If you are going to run synthetic oil, you as well may run Amsoil
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Why would anyone even WANT to run that Amsoil crap. It's NOT certified,
> it's MORE expensive than any other premium synthetic oil, and it's NO
> better than any other premium synthetic engine oil. You are just one of
> the gullible types who have bought into and swallowed hook line and
> sinker Amsoil's carefully concocted hype. Sure it's good oil, but it's
> no better than anything else that costs less that works just as well.
>
"Sure, it's good oil".... My point exactly.
> It's just pretty sad that you're so thoroughly indoctrinated you will
> continue defending it out of your pride.
I am not indoctrinated. I point out facts. I don't necessarily
recommend synthetic oil and if you can get a better oil cheaper you
should. Buy on price and quality.....it happens that sometimes Amsoil
might be the cheapest in its class. Other true specialist synthetics
are no cheaper. Mobil 1 is a consumer product. They have another
synthetic that is better, but mor money and not widely distributed, I
think.
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
In other words, the advanced student ticket. When you get your ATP you
can brag.
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/