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Jeepster 01-06-2004 08:20 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
A mechanic taught me an easy way to get out a rusted hub, you use the
power of the steering system to break it free. Jam a 2X4 between the
hub and the frame and turn the wheels slightly and it will pop out, I
found this out after hammering out 2 of them to pull the axles for
u-joint replacement. If you plan on doing u-joints at home you might
want to have a beefy vise on the work bench, I broke a 5" vise once
trying to press out the joint.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:53:08 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote:

>The driveshaft u-joints are indeed a 1 banana job but the front
>axle knuckle joints are at least a 3 banana job due to the rust
>factor on the hub to knuckle connection.
>
>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> One banana job. Bench bleed a master cylinder first, as in this
>> brake cylinder: http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/graphics/0460.jpg
>> then bleed as you tighten the fitting and you may get by without
>> bleeding the slave. Typical Universal Joint assembly pictured at:
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index3.html
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> m wrote:
>>
>>>Have an 86 Cherokee needing some work and just bought parts.
>>>How tough is replacing the clutch master cylinder and u-joints?



Jeepster 01-06-2004 08:20 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
A mechanic taught me an easy way to get out a rusted hub, you use the
power of the steering system to break it free. Jam a 2X4 between the
hub and the frame and turn the wheels slightly and it will pop out, I
found this out after hammering out 2 of them to pull the axles for
u-joint replacement. If you plan on doing u-joints at home you might
want to have a beefy vise on the work bench, I broke a 5" vise once
trying to press out the joint.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:53:08 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote:

>The driveshaft u-joints are indeed a 1 banana job but the front
>axle knuckle joints are at least a 3 banana job due to the rust
>factor on the hub to knuckle connection.
>
>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> One banana job. Bench bleed a master cylinder first, as in this
>> brake cylinder: http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/graphics/0460.jpg
>> then bleed as you tighten the fitting and you may get by without
>> bleeding the slave. Typical Universal Joint assembly pictured at:
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index3.html
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> m wrote:
>>
>>>Have an 86 Cherokee needing some work and just bought parts.
>>>How tough is replacing the clutch master cylinder and u-joints?



Jeepster 01-06-2004 08:20 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
A mechanic taught me an easy way to get out a rusted hub, you use the
power of the steering system to break it free. Jam a 2X4 between the
hub and the frame and turn the wheels slightly and it will pop out, I
found this out after hammering out 2 of them to pull the axles for
u-joint replacement. If you plan on doing u-joints at home you might
want to have a beefy vise on the work bench, I broke a 5" vise once
trying to press out the joint.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:53:08 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote:

>The driveshaft u-joints are indeed a 1 banana job but the front
>axle knuckle joints are at least a 3 banana job due to the rust
>factor on the hub to knuckle connection.
>
>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> One banana job. Bench bleed a master cylinder first, as in this
>> brake cylinder: http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/graphics/0460.jpg
>> then bleed as you tighten the fitting and you may get by without
>> bleeding the slave. Typical Universal Joint assembly pictured at:
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index3.html
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> m wrote:
>>
>>>Have an 86 Cherokee needing some work and just bought parts.
>>>How tough is replacing the clutch master cylinder and u-joints?



Mike Romain 01-06-2004 09:23 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> A mechanic taught me an easy way to get out a rusted hub, you use the
> power of the steering system to break it free. Jam a 2X4 between the
> hub and the frame and turn the wheels slightly and it will pop out, I
> found this out after hammering out 2 of them to pull the axles for
> u-joint replacement. If you plan on doing u-joints at home you might
> want to have a beefy vise on the work bench, I broke a 5" vise once
> trying to press out the joint.
>
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:53:08 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The driveshaft u-joints are indeed a 1 banana job but the front
> >axle knuckle joints are at least a 3 banana job due to the rust
> >factor on the hub to knuckle connection.
> >
> >L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >
> >> One banana job. Bench bleed a master cylinder first, as in this
> >> brake cylinder: http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/graphics/0460.jpg
> >> then bleed as you tighten the fitting and you may get by without
> >> bleeding the slave. Typical Universal Joint assembly pictured at:
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index3.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> m wrote:
> >>
> >>>Have an 86 Cherokee needing some work and just bought parts.
> >>>How tough is replacing the clutch master cylinder and u-joints?


Mike Romain 01-06-2004 09:23 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> A mechanic taught me an easy way to get out a rusted hub, you use the
> power of the steering system to break it free. Jam a 2X4 between the
> hub and the frame and turn the wheels slightly and it will pop out, I
> found this out after hammering out 2 of them to pull the axles for
> u-joint replacement. If you plan on doing u-joints at home you might
> want to have a beefy vise on the work bench, I broke a 5" vise once
> trying to press out the joint.
>
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:53:08 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The driveshaft u-joints are indeed a 1 banana job but the front
> >axle knuckle joints are at least a 3 banana job due to the rust
> >factor on the hub to knuckle connection.
> >
> >L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >
> >> One banana job. Bench bleed a master cylinder first, as in this
> >> brake cylinder: http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/graphics/0460.jpg
> >> then bleed as you tighten the fitting and you may get by without
> >> bleeding the slave. Typical Universal Joint assembly pictured at:
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index3.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> m wrote:
> >>
> >>>Have an 86 Cherokee needing some work and just bought parts.
> >>>How tough is replacing the clutch master cylinder and u-joints?


Mike Romain 01-06-2004 09:23 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> A mechanic taught me an easy way to get out a rusted hub, you use the
> power of the steering system to break it free. Jam a 2X4 between the
> hub and the frame and turn the wheels slightly and it will pop out, I
> found this out after hammering out 2 of them to pull the axles for
> u-joint replacement. If you plan on doing u-joints at home you might
> want to have a beefy vise on the work bench, I broke a 5" vise once
> trying to press out the joint.
>
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:53:08 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The driveshaft u-joints are indeed a 1 banana job but the front
> >axle knuckle joints are at least a 3 banana job due to the rust
> >factor on the hub to knuckle connection.
> >
> >L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >
> >> One banana job. Bench bleed a master cylinder first, as in this
> >> brake cylinder: http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/graphics/0460.jpg
> >> then bleed as you tighten the fitting and you may get by without
> >> bleeding the slave. Typical Universal Joint assembly pictured at:
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ft/index3.html
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> m wrote:
> >>
> >>>Have an 86 Cherokee needing some work and just bought parts.
> >>>How tough is replacing the clutch master cylinder and u-joints?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 10:09 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
Yes, but you may repack your bearings while it's apart:
http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
> Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 10:09 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
Yes, but you may repack your bearings while it's apart:
http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
> Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 10:09 PM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
Yes, but you may repack your bearings while it's apart:
http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
> Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 01-07-2004 11:19 AM

Re: How tough replacing clutch master cyl and u-joints on 86 Cherokee?
 
Ok, but how do you get the prick back together without a machine press?

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Yes, but you may repack your bearings while it's apart:
> http://www.----------.com/Dana30hub.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > The Cherokee has a sealed hub that can blow apart using that method.
> > Same for an axle puller, it can just pull the hub apart, not get it off.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's



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