twaldron

Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.

PeterP wrote:

> There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
> and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
> the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
> been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
>
> I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
> that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
> fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
> before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
> got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> reason?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
>>did it feel?
>>
>>Was there any play at all?
>>
>>How close are your angles under there?
>>
>>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
>>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
>>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
>>
>>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
>>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
>>mine.
>>
>>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
>>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
>>
>>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
>>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
>>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>PeterP wrote:
>>
>>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
>
> for
>
>>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
>
> on
>
>>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
>
> figure.
>
>>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
>
> spat
>
>>>out while 'froading.
>>>
>>>/Peter
>>>
>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
>>>
>>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
>
> am,
>
>>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
>>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
>>>
>>>grease.
>>>
>>>>>PeterP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
>>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
>
> like
>
>>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
>
> once
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>month since then !?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
>>>>>tw
>>>>>
>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.

PeterP wrote:

> There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
> and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
> the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
> been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
>
> I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
> that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
> fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
> before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
> got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> reason?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
>>did it feel?
>>
>>Was there any play at all?
>>
>>How close are your angles under there?
>>
>>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
>>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
>>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
>>
>>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
>>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
>>mine.
>>
>>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
>>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
>>
>>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
>>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
>>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>PeterP wrote:
>>
>>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
>
> for
>
>>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
>
> on
>
>>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
>
> figure.
>
>>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
>
> spat
>
>>>out while 'froading.
>>>
>>>/Peter
>>>
>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
>>>
>>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
>
> am,
>
>>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
>>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
>>>
>>>grease.
>>>
>>>>>PeterP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
>>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
>
> like
>
>>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
>
> once
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>month since then !?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
>>>>>tw
>>>>>
>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.

PeterP wrote:

> There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
> and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
> the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
> been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
>
> I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
> that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
> fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
> before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
> got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> reason?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
>>did it feel?
>>
>>Was there any play at all?
>>
>>How close are your angles under there?
>>
>>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
>>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
>>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
>>
>>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
>>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
>>mine.
>>
>>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
>>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
>>
>>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
>>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
>>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>PeterP wrote:
>>
>>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
>
> for
>
>>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
>
> on
>
>>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
>
> figure.
>
>>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
>
> spat
>
>>>out while 'froading.
>>>
>>>/Peter
>>>
>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
>>>
>>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
>
> am,
>
>>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
>>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
>>>
>>>grease.
>>>
>>>>>PeterP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
>>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
>
> like
>
>>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
>
> once
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>month since then !?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>/Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
>>>>>tw
>>>>>
>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>
>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>
>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

PeterP

Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application (had
a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.

Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.

/Peter

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
> When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
> it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
> get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
>
> PeterP wrote:
>
> > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
shaft,
> > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
joint is
> > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion
has
> > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
> >
> > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
ones
> > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
were
> > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
there
> > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
never
> > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> > reason?
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> >>did it feel?
> >>
> >>Was there any play at all?
> >>
> >>How close are your angles under there?
> >>
> >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> >>
> >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> >>mine.
> >>
> >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> >>
> >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>PeterP wrote:
> >>
> >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
anything
> >
> > for
> >
> >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
> >
> > on
> >
> >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> >
> > figure.
> >
> >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
> >
> > spat
> >
> >>>out while 'froading.
> >>>
> >>>/Peter
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> >>>
> >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>twaldron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> >
> > am,
> >
> >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> >>>
> >>>grease.
> >>>
> >>>>>PeterP wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> >
> > once
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>>month since then !?!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>/Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

PeterP

Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application (had
a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.

Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.

/Peter

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
> When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
> it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
> get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
>
> PeterP wrote:
>
> > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
shaft,
> > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
joint is
> > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion
has
> > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
> >
> > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
ones
> > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
were
> > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
there
> > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
never
> > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> > reason?
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> >>did it feel?
> >>
> >>Was there any play at all?
> >>
> >>How close are your angles under there?
> >>
> >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> >>
> >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> >>mine.
> >>
> >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> >>
> >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>PeterP wrote:
> >>
> >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
anything
> >
> > for
> >
> >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
> >
> > on
> >
> >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> >
> > figure.
> >
> >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
> >
> > spat
> >
> >>>out while 'froading.
> >>>
> >>>/Peter
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> >>>
> >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>twaldron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> >
> > am,
> >
> >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> >>>
> >>>grease.
> >>>
> >>>>>PeterP wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> >
> > once
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>>month since then !?!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>/Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

PeterP

Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application (had
a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.

Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.

/Peter

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
> When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
> it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
> get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
>
> PeterP wrote:
>
> > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
shaft,
> > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
joint is
> > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion
has
> > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
> >
> > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
ones
> > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
were
> > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
there
> > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
never
> > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> > reason?
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> >
> >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> >>did it feel?
> >>
> >>Was there any play at all?
> >>
> >>How close are your angles under there?
> >>
> >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> >>
> >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> >>mine.
> >>
> >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> >>
> >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>PeterP wrote:
> >>
> >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
anything
> >
> > for
> >
> >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
> >
> > on
> >
> >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> >
> > figure.
> >
> >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
> >
> > spat
> >
> >>>out while 'froading.
> >>>
> >>>/Peter
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> >>>
> >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>twaldron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> >
> > am,
> >
> >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> >>>
> >>>grease.
> >>>
> >>>>>PeterP wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> >
> > once
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>>month since then !?!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>/Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Cherokee-LTD

I would contact him about if for nothing else, insight. Though we've never
seen it before maybe he has and can say definitively "your problem is....".
It might save you some band-aids.
-Brian

"PeterP" <sprocket@spam.spam.spam.storm.ca> wrote in message
news:c252fl$g84$1@news.storm.ca...
: Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
: replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
: shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application
(had
: a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.
:
: Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.
:
: /Peter
:
: "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
: news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
: > Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
: > When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
: > it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
: > get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
: >
: > PeterP wrote:
: >
: > > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
: shaft,
: > > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
: joint is
: > > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
: > > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the
pinion
: has
: > > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
: > >
: > > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
: ones
: > > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
: were
: > > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
: there
: > > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
: never
: > > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
: > > reason?
: > >
: > > /Peter
: > >
: > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
: > >
: > >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
: > >>did it feel?
: > >>
: > >>Was there any play at all?
: > >>
: > >>How close are your angles under there?
: > >>
: > >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen
it
: > >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
: > >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
: > >>
: > >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints
pretty
: > >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
: > >>mine.
: > >>
: > >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
: > >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
: > >>
: > >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
: > >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
: > >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
: > >>
: > >>Mike
: > >>
: > >>PeterP wrote:
: > >>
: > >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
: anything
: > >
: > > for
: > >
: > >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly
worse
: > >
: > > on
: > >
: > >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
: > >
: > > figure.
: > >
: > >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and
got
: > >
: > > spat
: > >
: > >>>out while 'froading.
: > >>>
: > >>>/Peter
: > >>>
: > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
: > >>>
: > >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Mike
: > >>>>
: > >>>>twaldron wrote:
: > >>>>
: > >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
: > >
: > > am,
: > >
: > >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
: > >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
: > >>>
: > >>>grease.
: > >>>
: > >>>>>PeterP wrote:
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
: > >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
: > >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
: > >
: > > like
: > >
: > >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
: > >
: > > once
: > >
: > >>>a
: > >>>
: > >>>>>>month since then !?!
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>/Peter
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>--
: > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
: > >>>>>tw
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
: > >>>>>01 XJ Sport
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
: > >>>>>-- Dave Barry
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
: > >>>>>Function: noun
: > >>>>>Date: 1940
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: > >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
: > >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
: > >>>>>World War II.
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
: > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
: > >
: > >
: > >
: >
: > --
: > __________________________________________________ _________
: > tw
: >
: > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
: > 01 XJ Sport
: >
: > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
: > -- Dave Barry
: >
: > Pronunciation: 'jEp
: > Function: noun
: > Date: 1940
: >
: > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
: > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
: > World War II.
: >
: > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
: > __________________________________________________ _________
: >
:
:

Cherokee-LTD

I would contact him about if for nothing else, insight. Though we've never
seen it before maybe he has and can say definitively "your problem is....".
It might save you some band-aids.
-Brian

"PeterP" <sprocket@spam.spam.spam.storm.ca> wrote in message
news:c252fl$g84$1@news.storm.ca...
: Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
: replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
: shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application
(had
: a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.
:
: Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.
:
: /Peter
:
: "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
: news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
: > Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
: > When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
: > it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
: > get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
: >
: > PeterP wrote:
: >
: > > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
: shaft,
: > > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
: joint is
: > > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
: > > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the
pinion
: has
: > > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
: > >
: > > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
: ones
: > > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
: were
: > > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
: there
: > > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
: never
: > > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
: > > reason?
: > >
: > > /Peter
: > >
: > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
: > >
: > >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
: > >>did it feel?
: > >>
: > >>Was there any play at all?
: > >>
: > >>How close are your angles under there?
: > >>
: > >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen
it
: > >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
: > >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
: > >>
: > >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints
pretty
: > >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
: > >>mine.
: > >>
: > >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
: > >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
: > >>
: > >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
: > >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
: > >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
: > >>
: > >>Mike
: > >>
: > >>PeterP wrote:
: > >>
: > >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
: anything
: > >
: > > for
: > >
: > >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly
worse
: > >
: > > on
: > >
: > >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
: > >
: > > figure.
: > >
: > >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and
got
: > >
: > > spat
: > >
: > >>>out while 'froading.
: > >>>
: > >>>/Peter
: > >>>
: > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
: > >>>
: > >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Mike
: > >>>>
: > >>>>twaldron wrote:
: > >>>>
: > >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
: > >
: > > am,
: > >
: > >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
: > >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
: > >>>
: > >>>grease.
: > >>>
: > >>>>>PeterP wrote:
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
: > >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
: > >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
: > >
: > > like
: > >
: > >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
: > >
: > > once
: > >
: > >>>a
: > >>>
: > >>>>>>month since then !?!
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>/Peter
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>--
: > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
: > >>>>>tw
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
: > >>>>>01 XJ Sport
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
: > >>>>>-- Dave Barry
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
: > >>>>>Function: noun
: > >>>>>Date: 1940
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: > >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
: > >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
: > >>>>>World War II.
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
: > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
: > >
: > >
: > >
: >
: > --
: > __________________________________________________ _________
: > tw
: >
: > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
: > 01 XJ Sport
: >
: > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
: > -- Dave Barry
: >
: > Pronunciation: 'jEp
: > Function: noun
: > Date: 1940
: >
: > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
: > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
: > World War II.
: >
: > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
: > __________________________________________________ _________
: >
:
:

Cherokee-LTD

I would contact him about if for nothing else, insight. Though we've never
seen it before maybe he has and can say definitively "your problem is....".
It might save you some band-aids.
-Brian

"PeterP" <sprocket@spam.spam.spam.storm.ca> wrote in message
news:c252fl$g84$1@news.storm.ca...
: Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
: replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
: shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application
(had
: a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.
:
: Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.
:
: /Peter
:
: "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
: news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
: > Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
: > When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
: > it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
: > get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
: >
: > PeterP wrote:
: >
: > > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
: shaft,
: > > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
: joint is
: > > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
: > > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the
pinion
: has
: > > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
: > >
: > > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
: ones
: > > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
: were
: > > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
: there
: > > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
: never
: > > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
: > > reason?
: > >
: > > /Peter
: > >
: > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
: > >
: > >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
: > >>did it feel?
: > >>
: > >>Was there any play at all?
: > >>
: > >>How close are your angles under there?
: > >>
: > >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen
it
: > >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
: > >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
: > >>
: > >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints
pretty
: > >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
: > >>mine.
: > >>
: > >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
: > >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
: > >>
: > >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
: > >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
: > >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
: > >>
: > >>Mike
: > >>
: > >>PeterP wrote:
: > >>
: > >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
: anything
: > >
: > > for
: > >
: > >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly
worse
: > >
: > > on
: > >
: > >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
: > >
: > > figure.
: > >
: > >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and
got
: > >
: > > spat
: > >
: > >>>out while 'froading.
: > >>>
: > >>>/Peter
: > >>>
: > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
: > >>>
: > >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
: > >>>>
: > >>>>Mike
: > >>>>
: > >>>>twaldron wrote:
: > >>>>
: > >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
: > >
: > > am,
: > >
: > >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
: > >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
: > >>>
: > >>>grease.
: > >>>
: > >>>>>PeterP wrote:
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
: > >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
: > >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
: > >
: > > like
: > >
: > >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
: > >
: > > once
: > >
: > >>>a
: > >>>
: > >>>>>>month since then !?!
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>/Peter
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>--
: > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
: > >>>>>tw
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
: > >>>>>01 XJ Sport
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
: > >>>>>-- Dave Barry
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
: > >>>>>Function: noun
: > >>>>>Date: 1940
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: > >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
: > >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
: > >>>>>World War II.
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
: > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
: > >
: > >
: > >
: >
: > --
: > __________________________________________________ _________
: > tw
: >
: > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
: > 01 XJ Sport
: >
: > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
: > -- Dave Barry
: >
: > Pronunciation: 'jEp
: > Function: noun
: > Date: 1940
: >
: > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
: > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
: > World War II.
: >
: > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
: > __________________________________________________ _________
: >
:
:

twaldron

Much as I hate to say I agree with Brian, I'd do the same. ;)

I'm just suggesting that you email him the pic and get his opinion on
it. He's very been helpful to me in the past and especially since you're
not trying to "get" anything out of it, just trying to determine what
might have happened. He may have a whole batch of bad u-joints to get
rid of, so I don't get one. :)

Cherokee-LTD wrote:

> I would contact him about if for nothing else, insight. Though we've never
> seen it before maybe he has and can say definitively "your problem is....".
> It might save you some band-aids.
> -Brian
>
> "PeterP" <sprocket@spam.spam.spam.storm.ca> wrote in message
> news:c252fl$g84$1@news.storm.ca...
> : Aw heck, I'm not going to bother Tom Wood's about a u-joint I've already
> : replaced, since he went through the hassle of shipping me three different
> : shafts at no extra charge. The first one was for the wrong application
> (had
> : a flange instead of a yoke), and the second one was too short.
> :
> : Besides, I've already chucked the bad joint.
> :
> : /Peter
> :
> : "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> : news:SGm1c.3686$vG7.425@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> : > Looks to me like it was never greased, so you probably have a blockage.
> : > When you pump grease in there, you can see it oozing from the caps when
> : > it's full. Looks like you might have had a defective U-joint from the
> : > get-go. I'd sent those pics to Tom and see what he has to say.
> : >
> : > PeterP wrote:
> : >
> : > > There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV
> : shaft,
> : > > and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad
> : joint is
> : > > the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> : > > http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the
> pinion
> : has
> : > > been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
> : > >
> : > > I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the
> : ones
> : > > that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke
> : were
> : > > fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in
> : there
> : > > before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease
> : never
> : > > got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> : > > reason?
> : > >
> : > > /Peter
> : > >
> : > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> : > > news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> : > >
> : > >>When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> : > >>did it feel?
> : > >>
> : > >>Was there any play at all?
> : > >>
> : > >>How close are your angles under there?
> : > >>
> : > >>Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen
> it
> : > >>before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> : > >>beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> : > >>
> : > >>I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints
> pretty
> : > >>fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> : > >>mine.
> : > >>
> : > >>Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> : > >>pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> : > >>
> : > >>I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> : > >>recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> : > >>he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> : > >>
> : > >>Mike
> : > >>
> : > >>PeterP wrote:
> : > >>
> : > >>>The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated
> : anything
> : > >
> : > > for
> : > >
> : > >>>a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly
> worse
> : > >
> : > > on
> : > >
> : > >>>the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> : > >
> : > > figure.
> : > >
> : > >>>Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and
> got
> : > >
> : > > spat
> : > >
> : > >>>out while 'froading.
> : > >>>
> : > >>>/Peter
> : > >>>
> : > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> : > >>>news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> : > >>>
> : > >>>>That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> : > >>>>
> : > >>>>Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> : > >>>>
> : > >>>>Mike
> : > >>>>
> : > >>>>twaldron wrote:
> : > >>>>
> : > >>>>>Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> : > >
> : > > am,
> : > >
> : > >>>>>but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> : > >>>>>needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> : > >>>
> : > >>>grease.
> : > >>>
> : > >>>>>PeterP wrote:
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> : > >>>>>>news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>>>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> : > >>>>>>>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> : > >
> : > > like
> : > >
> : > >>>>>>>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>>I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> : > >
> : > > once
> : > >
> : > >>>a
> : > >>>
> : > >>>>>>month since then !?!
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>>/Peter
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>>
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>--
> : > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> : > >>>>>tw
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> : > >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> : > >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> : > >>>>>Function: noun
> : > >>>>>Date: 1940
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> : > >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> : > >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> : > >>>>>World War II.
> : > >>>>>
> : > >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> : > >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >
> : >
> : > --
> : > __________________________________________________ _________
> : > tw
> : >
> : > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> : > 01 XJ Sport
> : >
> : > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> : > -- Dave Barry
> : >
> : > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> : > Function: noun
> : > Date: 1940
> : >
> : > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> : > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> : > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> : > World War II.
> : >
> : > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> : > __________________________________________________ _________
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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