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PeterP wrote:
>
> The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything for
> a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse on
> the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go figure.
> Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got spat
> out while 'froading.
>
> /Peter

Mike Romain

When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
did it feel?

Was there any play at all?

How close are your angles under there?

Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
beating on them, but never chunked apart.

I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
mine.

Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....

I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.

Mike

PeterP wrote:
>
> The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything for
> a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse on
> the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go figure.
> Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got spat
> out while 'froading.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> >
> > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> > >
> > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I am,
> > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> grease.
> > >
> > > PeterP wrote:
> > >
> > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > >
> > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look like
> > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about once
> a
> > > > month since then !?!
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > >
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > Function: noun
> > > Date: 1940
> > >
> > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > World War II.
> > >
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________

Mike Romain

When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
did it feel?

Was there any play at all?

How close are your angles under there?

Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
beating on them, but never chunked apart.

I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
mine.

Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....

I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.

Mike

PeterP wrote:
>
> The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything for
> a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse on
> the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go figure.
> Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got spat
> out while 'froading.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> >
> > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> > >
> > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I am,
> > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> grease.
> > >
> > > PeterP wrote:
> > >
> > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > >
> > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look like
> > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about once
> a
> > > > month since then !?!
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > >
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > Function: noun
> > > Date: 1940
> > >
> > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > World War II.
> > >
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________

Mike Romain

When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
did it feel?

Was there any play at all?

How close are your angles under there?

Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
beating on them, but never chunked apart.

I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
mine.

Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....

I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.

Mike

PeterP wrote:
>
> The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything for
> a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse on
> the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go figure.
> Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got spat
> out while 'froading.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> >
> > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> > >
> > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I am,
> > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> grease.
> > >
> > > PeterP wrote:
> > >
> > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > >
> > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look like
> > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about once
> a
> > > > month since then !?!
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > >
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > Function: noun
> > > Date: 1940
> > >
> > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > World War II.
> > >
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________

PeterP

There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.

I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
reason?

/Peter

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> did it feel?
>
> Was there any play at all?
>
> How close are your angles under there?
>
> Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> beating on them, but never chunked apart.
>
> I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> mine.
>
> Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
>
> I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
>
> Mike
>
> PeterP wrote:
> >
> > The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
for
> > a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
on
> > the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
figure.
> > Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
spat
> > out while 'froading.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> > >
> > > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > twaldron wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
am,
> > > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> > grease.
> > > >
> > > > PeterP wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > >
> > > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
like
> > > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
once
> > a
> > > > > month since then !?!
> > > > >
> > > > > /Peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > >
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > > Function: noun
> > > > Date: 1940
> > > >
> > > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > > World War II.
> > > >
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________

PeterP

There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.

I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
reason?

/Peter

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> did it feel?
>
> Was there any play at all?
>
> How close are your angles under there?
>
> Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> beating on them, but never chunked apart.
>
> I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> mine.
>
> Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
>
> I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
>
> Mike
>
> PeterP wrote:
> >
> > The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
for
> > a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
on
> > the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
figure.
> > Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
spat
> > out while 'froading.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> > >
> > > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > twaldron wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
am,
> > > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> > grease.
> > > >
> > > > PeterP wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > >
> > > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
like
> > > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
once
> > a
> > > > > month since then !?!
> > > > >
> > > > > /Peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > >
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > > Function: noun
> > > > Date: 1940
> > > >
> > > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > > World War II.
> > > >
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________

PeterP

There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.

I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
reason?

/Peter

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> did it feel?
>
> Was there any play at all?
>
> How close are your angles under there?
>
> Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> beating on them, but never chunked apart.
>
> I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> mine.
>
> Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
>
> I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
>
> Mike
>
> PeterP wrote:
> >
> > The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
for
> > a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
on
> > the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
figure.
> > Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
spat
> > out while 'froading.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> > >
> > > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > twaldron wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
am,
> > > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> > grease.
> > > >
> > > > PeterP wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > >
> > > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
like
> > > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
once
> > a
> > > > > month since then !?!
> > > > >
> > > > > /Peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > tw
> > > >
> > > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > >
> > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > >
> > > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > > Function: noun
> > > > Date: 1940
> > > >
> > > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > > World War II.
> > > >
> > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > __________________________________________________ _________

Mike Romain

That sure does look like a dry cap doesn't it?

Maybe the u-joint has an obstruction inside it that prevent grease
transfer?

I think I would run a wire through it just to see.

Mike

PeterP wrote:
>
> There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
> and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
> the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
> been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
>
> I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
> that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
> fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
> before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
> got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> reason?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> > When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> > did it feel?
> >
> > Was there any play at all?
> >
> > How close are your angles under there?
> >
> > Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> > before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> > beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> >
> > I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> > fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> > mine.
> >
> > Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> > pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> >
> > I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> > recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> > he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > PeterP wrote:
> > >
> > > The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
> for
> > > a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
> on
> > > the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> figure.
> > > Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
> spat
> > > out while 'froading.
> > >
> > > /Peter
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> am,
> > > > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> > > grease.
> > > > >
> > > > > PeterP wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> like
> > > > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> once
> > > a
> > > > > > month since then !?!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > >
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > > > Function: noun
> > > > > Date: 1940
> > > > >
> > > > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > > > World War II.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________

Mike Romain

That sure does look like a dry cap doesn't it?

Maybe the u-joint has an obstruction inside it that prevent grease
transfer?

I think I would run a wire through it just to see.

Mike

PeterP wrote:
>
> There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
> and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
> the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
> been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
>
> I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
> that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
> fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
> before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
> got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> reason?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> > When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> > did it feel?
> >
> > Was there any play at all?
> >
> > How close are your angles under there?
> >
> > Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> > before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> > beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> >
> > I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> > fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> > mine.
> >
> > Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> > pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> >
> > I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> > recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> > he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > PeterP wrote:
> > >
> > > The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
> for
> > > a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
> on
> > > the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> figure.
> > > Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
> spat
> > > out while 'froading.
> > >
> > > /Peter
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> am,
> > > > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> > > grease.
> > > > >
> > > > > PeterP wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> like
> > > > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> once
> > > a
> > > > > > month since then !?!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > >
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > > > Function: noun
> > > > > Date: 1940
> > > > >
> > > > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > > > World War II.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________

Mike Romain

That sure does look like a dry cap doesn't it?

Maybe the u-joint has an obstruction inside it that prevent grease
transfer?

I think I would run a wire through it just to see.

Mike

PeterP wrote:
>
> There's no angle at all for my u-joint that crapped out - it's a CV shaft,
> and the two joints in the Double Cardan assembly were fine. The bad joint is
> the one on the right in the shaft in this picture:
> http://www.4xshaft.com/images/tail_shaft/hd_conv_sm.jpg, and the pinion has
> been rotated up so that there's zero degrees for this joint.
>
> I just thought of something - the two bad caps of the u-joint were the ones
> that were in the shaft - the ones that get strapped to the axle yoke were
> fine, and I believe I removed those caps and slathered some grease in there
> before installing the shaft simply because I could. I wonder if grease never
> got from the fitting into the caps that Tom Wood's installed for some
> reason?
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40450680.C0E77DB@sympatico.ca...
> > When you mentioned that in the morning and checked it in neutral, how
> > did it feel?
> >
> > Was there any play at all?
> >
> > How close are your angles under there?
> >
> > Chunks out of caps is unusual, really unusual..... I have never seen it
> > before. I have seen caps that were worn right through from the cross
> > beating on them, but never chunked apart.
> >
> > I know I am running right at the edge for angle and eat u-joints pretty
> > fast. I am thinking I might need some shims under the spring packs on
> > mine.
> >
> > Just had the rear end rebuilt with all new bearings and seals and the
> > pinion seal is leaking already. Grr.....
> >
> > I am going to go back to the shop that did the work and see what he
> > recommends for shims, he was the one that mentioned it to me and I bet
> > he can set me up 'right', he sure seems to know his stuff.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > PeterP wrote:
> > >
> > > The vibes only started late last week, and I hadn't articulated anything
> for
> > > a couple of months before that. The vibes were actually slightly worse
> on
> > > the way up Sunday, seemed to be a little better on the way back. Go
> figure.
> > > Perhaps loose needles and chunks of cap were binding it earlier and got
> spat
> > > out while 'froading.
> > >
> > > /Peter
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4044E9AF.C21AAF22@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That almost seems like an angle jam to me.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it went too steep an angle when the wheel articulated?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Really? Wow. I'm sure a lot of people are harder on U-joints than I
> am,
> > > > > but I've never seen caps cracked that badly. Also, I don't see any
> > > > > needle bearings in your cups. Usually those disappear from lack of
> > > grease.
> > > > >
> > > > > PeterP wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:q031c.3499$vG7.2444@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Ooh, someone didn't lube the u-joint after installing the new
> > > > > >>driveshaft? Heh heh. Well, glad you made it home OK. Doesn't look
> like
> > > > > >>you had many more miles left before total failure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did lube it right after installing it, and lept lubing it about
> once
> > > a
> > > > > > month since then !?!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > > > tw
> > > > >
> > > > > 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> > > > > 01 XJ Sport
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > > > -- Dave Barry
> > > > >
> > > > > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > > > > Function: noun
> > > > > Date: 1940
> > > > >
> > > > > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > > > > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > > > > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > > > > World War II.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > > > __________________________________________________ _________