fyi if yer jeep won't start
01-15-2004, 08:07 PM
#51
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
No problem ... my intent was not to ask for advice ... just to offer the
information that if for some reason your jeep won't start after trying a few
times ... floor it and it might start saving you a tow. It was - 29 C again
this morning ... the jeep started up just fine ... cold idled at about 1000
rpm as it has been doing for the past few years ... then settled down to the
750 or so as has been doing for years as it is supposed to.
I'm the pragmatic type ... for some reason the jeep would not hold an idle
yesterday ... but I got it started by applying some free advice I'd read
here ... and eventually all was normal. Good enough for me ... I'm not out
pouring a variety of snake oil miracle fixes into the gas tank, or the
crankcase, or the air intake, or buying a new alternator, or a new battery,
or a battery warmer ... although a heated seat might be nice ... it was just
one of those very cold very damp nights that f****d with my jeep ... too
easy.
"Chris" <spam@telus.net> wrote in message
news:ajac00lk66uu09kbvr0lasn9dqjftehh4u@4ax.com...
> >Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal
....
> >it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually
become
> >super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ...
doh
> >... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> >block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
> Don't take what I say the wrong way.. Just always here stories from
> people with vehicles that are supposidly in "excellent
> mechanical\electrical shape" but don't seem to start when it gets
> cold..
>
> I've had three Jeeps, several gm trucks, never once had one not start
> in -40c and colder with nice windchills on top of that, or even had a
> problem starting.... Even two weeks ago when it hit -36c after having
> the jeep sit for three weeks, without plugging it in, she fired right
> up in under 5seconds and ran fine..
information that if for some reason your jeep won't start after trying a few
times ... floor it and it might start saving you a tow. It was - 29 C again
this morning ... the jeep started up just fine ... cold idled at about 1000
rpm as it has been doing for the past few years ... then settled down to the
750 or so as has been doing for years as it is supposed to.
I'm the pragmatic type ... for some reason the jeep would not hold an idle
yesterday ... but I got it started by applying some free advice I'd read
here ... and eventually all was normal. Good enough for me ... I'm not out
pouring a variety of snake oil miracle fixes into the gas tank, or the
crankcase, or the air intake, or buying a new alternator, or a new battery,
or a battery warmer ... although a heated seat might be nice ... it was just
one of those very cold very damp nights that f****d with my jeep ... too
easy.
"Chris" <spam@telus.net> wrote in message
news:ajac00lk66uu09kbvr0lasn9dqjftehh4u@4ax.com...
> >Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal
....
> >it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually
become
> >super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ...
doh
> >... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> >block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
> Don't take what I say the wrong way.. Just always here stories from
> people with vehicles that are supposidly in "excellent
> mechanical\electrical shape" but don't seem to start when it gets
> cold..
>
> I've had three Jeeps, several gm trucks, never once had one not start
> in -40c and colder with nice windchills on top of that, or even had a
> problem starting.... Even two weeks ago when it hit -36c after having
> the jeep sit for three weeks, without plugging it in, she fired right
> up in under 5seconds and ran fine..
01-15-2004, 08:07 PM
#52
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
No problem ... my intent was not to ask for advice ... just to offer the
information that if for some reason your jeep won't start after trying a few
times ... floor it and it might start saving you a tow. It was - 29 C again
this morning ... the jeep started up just fine ... cold idled at about 1000
rpm as it has been doing for the past few years ... then settled down to the
750 or so as has been doing for years as it is supposed to.
I'm the pragmatic type ... for some reason the jeep would not hold an idle
yesterday ... but I got it started by applying some free advice I'd read
here ... and eventually all was normal. Good enough for me ... I'm not out
pouring a variety of snake oil miracle fixes into the gas tank, or the
crankcase, or the air intake, or buying a new alternator, or a new battery,
or a battery warmer ... although a heated seat might be nice ... it was just
one of those very cold very damp nights that f****d with my jeep ... too
easy.
"Chris" <spam@telus.net> wrote in message
news:ajac00lk66uu09kbvr0lasn9dqjftehh4u@4ax.com...
> >Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal
....
> >it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually
become
> >super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ...
doh
> >... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> >block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
> Don't take what I say the wrong way.. Just always here stories from
> people with vehicles that are supposidly in "excellent
> mechanical\electrical shape" but don't seem to start when it gets
> cold..
>
> I've had three Jeeps, several gm trucks, never once had one not start
> in -40c and colder with nice windchills on top of that, or even had a
> problem starting.... Even two weeks ago when it hit -36c after having
> the jeep sit for three weeks, without plugging it in, she fired right
> up in under 5seconds and ran fine..
information that if for some reason your jeep won't start after trying a few
times ... floor it and it might start saving you a tow. It was - 29 C again
this morning ... the jeep started up just fine ... cold idled at about 1000
rpm as it has been doing for the past few years ... then settled down to the
750 or so as has been doing for years as it is supposed to.
I'm the pragmatic type ... for some reason the jeep would not hold an idle
yesterday ... but I got it started by applying some free advice I'd read
here ... and eventually all was normal. Good enough for me ... I'm not out
pouring a variety of snake oil miracle fixes into the gas tank, or the
crankcase, or the air intake, or buying a new alternator, or a new battery,
or a battery warmer ... although a heated seat might be nice ... it was just
one of those very cold very damp nights that f****d with my jeep ... too
easy.
"Chris" <spam@telus.net> wrote in message
news:ajac00lk66uu09kbvr0lasn9dqjftehh4u@4ax.com...
> >Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal
....
> >it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually
become
> >super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ...
doh
> >... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> >block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
> Don't take what I say the wrong way.. Just always here stories from
> people with vehicles that are supposidly in "excellent
> mechanical\electrical shape" but don't seem to start when it gets
> cold..
>
> I've had three Jeeps, several gm trucks, never once had one not start
> in -40c and colder with nice windchills on top of that, or even had a
> problem starting.... Even two weeks ago when it hit -36c after having
> the jeep sit for three weeks, without plugging it in, she fired right
> up in under 5seconds and ran fine..
01-22-2004, 09:28 PM
#53
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
already added.
Cheers,
Paul
> Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
already added.
Cheers,
Paul
01-22-2004, 09:28 PM
#54
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
already added.
Cheers,
Paul
> Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
already added.
Cheers,
Paul
01-22-2004, 09:28 PM
#55
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
already added.
Cheers,
Paul
> Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
>
FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
already added.
Cheers,
Paul
01-23-2004, 09:18 AM
#56
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
>
> > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> >
>
> FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> already added.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
>
> > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> >
>
> FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> already added.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-23-2004, 09:18 AM
#57
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
>
> > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> >
>
> FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> already added.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
>
> > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> >
>
> FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> already added.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-23-2004, 09:18 AM
#58
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
Paul Keating wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
>
> > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> >
>
> FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> already added.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
>
> > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> >
>
> FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> already added.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-23-2004, 03:48 PM
#59
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
Hi Mike,
Plus when the Arco stations, about fifteen years ago, here in
California first introduce methanol, ethanol and alcohol-gasoline
mixtures, it destroyed many of the older cars using polyethylene,
polyester, neoprene and polyurethane in their carburetors, fuel pumps,
and lines. Carburetor kits no longer use those parts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Paul Keating wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> >
> > > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> > >
> >
> > FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> > already added.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
>
> That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
>
> Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
> gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
> only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Plus when the Arco stations, about fifteen years ago, here in
California first introduce methanol, ethanol and alcohol-gasoline
mixtures, it destroyed many of the older cars using polyethylene,
polyester, neoprene and polyurethane in their carburetors, fuel pumps,
and lines. Carburetor kits no longer use those parts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Paul Keating wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> >
> > > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> > >
> >
> > FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> > already added.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
>
> That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
>
> Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
> gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
> only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-23-2004, 03:48 PM
#60
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Re: fyi if yer jeep won't start
Hi Mike,
Plus when the Arco stations, about fifteen years ago, here in
California first introduce methanol, ethanol and alcohol-gasoline
mixtures, it destroyed many of the older cars using polyethylene,
polyester, neoprene and polyurethane in their carburetors, fuel pumps,
and lines. Carburetor kits no longer use those parts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Paul Keating wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> >
> > > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> > >
> >
> > FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> > already added.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
>
> That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
>
> Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
> gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
> only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Plus when the Arco stations, about fifteen years ago, here in
California first introduce methanol, ethanol and alcohol-gasoline
mixtures, it destroyed many of the older cars using polyethylene,
polyester, neoprene and polyurethane in their carburetors, fuel pumps,
and lines. Carburetor kits no longer use those parts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Paul Keating wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:42:49 +0000, bowgus wrote:
> >
> > > Geez ... that's all I need? And I went and bought a jeep. About ethonal ...
> > > it absorbs water (as does "gas line antifreeze") and can eventually become
> > > super saturated, and then ... it dumps all the water it has absorbed ... doh
> > > ... forget that. Got a good battery, use good winter blend fuel, use the
> > > block heater ... had many vehicles, jeeps are just plain ... ornary :-)
> > >
> >
> > FYI, Winter blend fuel is just gas with Ethanol/gas line antifreeze
> > already added.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
>
> That crap costs me 100 miles per tank!
>
> Just recently I checked my mileage and all I could get was the 'winter'
> gas. Not nice to come out of the bush thinking I have tons of gas left
> only to put 70 liters in it. (76L tank)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's