On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:57:07 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> A finger over the spark plug hole wile rotating the crank to Top
>Dead Center is enough to easily tell when one is coming up on
>compression.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>
>CRWLR wrote:
>>
>> Is it enought to have the plug out?
>>
>> The piston is at the top each time the timing mark is on TDC, once it is at
>> the top of the exhaust stroke and once at the top of the compression stroke.
>> I thought the valve cover would need to be off to tell which stroke was at
>> the top.

Here's what I found today... The finger over the spark plug hole
trick did NOT work for me. I'm not saying it doesn't work for some
people but I was unable to feel the pressure on the compression
stroke. I removed the valve covers and watched the valves on #1 and
waited to see both valves close just before the piston began moving
upwards. That way I knew it was on the compression stroke. I turned
the engine over until my piece of wire in the cylinder no longer rose.
I positioned the rotor on the distributor to point to the spot where
the terminal was going to be once I put the cap back on...the terminal
I wanted to be #1 terminal. The distributor didn't quite seat, but I
expected that since the end of it didn't engage the oil pump. I put
slight downwards pressure on the distributor as I turned the engine
over by hand a little bit.... *clunk* It dropped right in. Man,
typing about it sure is easier than doing it. :-) Anyway, I'm pretty
sure I have it kinda way too far advanced right now cuz when I turned
the key in the ignition it backfired a few times through the carb and
even spit a little flame out. I'm thinking too far advanced because
that would mean the intake valve is still open and the piston is near
the bottom of the intake stroke when that cylinder is getting fired,
so the fire/explosion has nowhere to go but through the carb. I'm
done with it for the day. Tomorrow I'll go turn the distributor
several degress clockwise to retard the timing and try some more...
It did start and run about 2 seconds before the spitting of flame
stuff so I'm close... Tomorrow I should have it put together. WOOT
WOOT! Thanks for all of the help, you guys!

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!

 

Shaggie did pass the time by typing:


> .... Anyway, I'm pretty
> sure I have it kinda way too far advanced right now cuz when I turned
> the key in the ignition it backfired a few times through the carb and
> even spit a little flame out. I'm thinking too far advanced because
> that would mean the intake valve is still open and the piston is near
> the bottom of the intake stroke when that cylinder is getting fired,
> so the fire/explosion has nowhere to go but through the carb. I'm
> done with it for the day. Tomorrow I'll go turn the distributor
> several degress clockwise to retard the timing and try some more...
> It did start and run about 2 seconds before the spitting of flame
> stuff so I'm close... Tomorrow I should have it put together. WOOT
> WOOT! Thanks for all of the help, you guys!

Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
where the rotor is pointing.

I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)

--
DougW

 

Shaggie did pass the time by typing:


> .... Anyway, I'm pretty
> sure I have it kinda way too far advanced right now cuz when I turned
> the key in the ignition it backfired a few times through the carb and
> even spit a little flame out. I'm thinking too far advanced because
> that would mean the intake valve is still open and the piston is near
> the bottom of the intake stroke when that cylinder is getting fired,
> so the fire/explosion has nowhere to go but through the carb. I'm
> done with it for the day. Tomorrow I'll go turn the distributor
> several degress clockwise to retard the timing and try some more...
> It did start and run about 2 seconds before the spitting of flame
> stuff so I'm close... Tomorrow I should have it put together. WOOT
> WOOT! Thanks for all of the help, you guys!

Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
where the rotor is pointing.

I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)

--
DougW

 

Shaggie did pass the time by typing:


> .... Anyway, I'm pretty
> sure I have it kinda way too far advanced right now cuz when I turned
> the key in the ignition it backfired a few times through the carb and
> even spit a little flame out. I'm thinking too far advanced because
> that would mean the intake valve is still open and the piston is near
> the bottom of the intake stroke when that cylinder is getting fired,
> so the fire/explosion has nowhere to go but through the carb. I'm
> done with it for the day. Tomorrow I'll go turn the distributor
> several degress clockwise to retard the timing and try some more...
> It did start and run about 2 seconds before the spitting of flame
> stuff so I'm close... Tomorrow I should have it put together. WOOT
> WOOT! Thanks for all of the help, you guys!

Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
where the rotor is pointing.

I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)

--
DougW

 

Shaggie did pass the time by typing:


> .... Anyway, I'm pretty
> sure I have it kinda way too far advanced right now cuz when I turned
> the key in the ignition it backfired a few times through the carb and
> even spit a little flame out. I'm thinking too far advanced because
> that would mean the intake valve is still open and the piston is near
> the bottom of the intake stroke when that cylinder is getting fired,
> so the fire/explosion has nowhere to go but through the carb. I'm
> done with it for the day. Tomorrow I'll go turn the distributor
> several degress clockwise to retard the timing and try some more...
> It did start and run about 2 seconds before the spitting of flame
> stuff so I'm close... Tomorrow I should have it put together. WOOT
> WOOT! Thanks for all of the help, you guys!

Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
where the rotor is pointing.

I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)

--
DougW

 

I'm almost always a tooth by the time it rotate it in and find the
pump a quarter turn away, so what, puller her back one more tooth and
drop it in again. Spin it by the starter solenoid, watching the rotor
and with any luck when you stop it at cap number one, the balancer will
be there too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
> helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
> where the rotor is pointing.
>
> I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)
>
> --
> DougW

 

I'm almost always a tooth by the time it rotate it in and find the
pump a quarter turn away, so what, puller her back one more tooth and
drop it in again. Spin it by the starter solenoid, watching the rotor
and with any luck when you stop it at cap number one, the balancer will
be there too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
> helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
> where the rotor is pointing.
>
> I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)
>
> --
> DougW

 

I'm almost always a tooth by the time it rotate it in and find the
pump a quarter turn away, so what, puller her back one more tooth and
drop it in again. Spin it by the starter solenoid, watching the rotor
and with any luck when you stop it at cap number one, the balancer will
be there too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
> helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
> where the rotor is pointing.
>
> I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)
>
> --
> DougW

 

I'm almost always a tooth by the time it rotate it in and find the
pump a quarter turn away, so what, puller her back one more tooth and
drop it in again. Spin it by the starter solenoid, watching the rotor
and with any luck when you stop it at cap number one, the balancer will
be there too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
> helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
> where the rotor is pointing.
>
> I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)
>
> --
> DougW

 

Can't you just get it in there pretty close and then rotate the body
of the distributor around to get the right advance? I'm hoping I
won't have to take the distributor back out again. :-/


On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:47:50 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

> I'm almost always a tooth by the time it rotate it in and find the
>pump a quarter turn away, so what, puller her back one more tooth and
>drop it in again. Spin it by the starter solenoid, watching the rotor
>and with any luck when you stop it at cap number one, the balancer will
>be there too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Your timing moved as the distributor slid in. (remember the gear is
>> helical) So go through the motion once more to find TDC then check
>> where the rotor is pointing.
>>
>> I remember going through this once on my old chevy.. man what a pain. :)
>>
>> --
>> DougW

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!