Flywheel removal
08-02-2005, 09:03 PM
#151
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Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
an arrow.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
flywheel and the pilot bearing.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> > bearing in that.
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
The
> > > new
> > > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > > that
> > > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > > machined.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> > >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> > >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> > >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> > >>
> > >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> > >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole
where
> > >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
of
> > >> the engine.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
flywheel
> > > is on
> > >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
and
> > >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
my
> > > head
> > >> > hurts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
all
> > > back
> > >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > > bearing
> > >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
the
> > >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
it
> > > the
> > >> > trans up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
flywheel
> > > back
> > >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > > pressure
> > >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
workout
> > >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> > >> >
> > >> > Carl
> > >> >
> > >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Robb S wrote:
> > >> > > >LOL
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Let's hope.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> > >
> > >
the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
an arrow.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
flywheel and the pilot bearing.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> > bearing in that.
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
The
> > > new
> > > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > > that
> > > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > > machined.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> > >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> > >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> > >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> > >>
> > >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> > >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole
where
> > >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
of
> > >> the engine.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
flywheel
> > > is on
> > >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
and
> > >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
my
> > > head
> > >> > hurts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
all
> > > back
> > >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > > bearing
> > >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
the
> > >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
it
> > > the
> > >> > trans up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
flywheel
> > > back
> > >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > > pressure
> > >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
workout
> > >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> > >> >
> > >> > Carl
> > >> >
> > >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Robb S wrote:
> > >> > > >LOL
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Let's hope.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> > >
> > >
08-02-2005, 09:03 PM
#152
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
an arrow.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
flywheel and the pilot bearing.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> > bearing in that.
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
The
> > > new
> > > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > > that
> > > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > > machined.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> > >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> > >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> > >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> > >>
> > >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> > >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole
where
> > >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
of
> > >> the engine.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
flywheel
> > > is on
> > >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
and
> > >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
my
> > > head
> > >> > hurts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
all
> > > back
> > >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > > bearing
> > >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
the
> > >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
it
> > > the
> > >> > trans up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
flywheel
> > > back
> > >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > > pressure
> > >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
workout
> > >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> > >> >
> > >> > Carl
> > >> >
> > >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Robb S wrote:
> > >> > > >LOL
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Let's hope.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> > >
> > >
the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
an arrow.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
flywheel and the pilot bearing.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> > bearing in that.
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
The
> > > new
> > > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > > that
> > > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > > machined.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> > >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> > >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> > >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> > >>
> > >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> > >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole
where
> > >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
of
> > >> the engine.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
flywheel
> > > is on
> > >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
and
> > >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
my
> > > head
> > >> > hurts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
all
> > > back
> > >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > > bearing
> > >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
the
> > >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
it
> > > the
> > >> > trans up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
flywheel
> > > back
> > >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > > pressure
> > >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
workout
> > >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> > >> >
> > >> > Carl
> > >> >
> > >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Robb S wrote:
> > >> > > >LOL
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Let's hope.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> > >
> > >
08-02-2005, 09:03 PM
#153
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
an arrow.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
flywheel and the pilot bearing.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> > bearing in that.
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
The
> > > new
> > > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > > that
> > > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > > machined.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> > >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> > >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> > >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> > >>
> > >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> > >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole
where
> > >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
of
> > >> the engine.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
flywheel
> > > is on
> > >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
and
> > >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
my
> > > head
> > >> > hurts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
all
> > > back
> > >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > > bearing
> > >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
the
> > >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
it
> > > the
> > >> > trans up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
flywheel
> > > back
> > >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > > pressure
> > >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
workout
> > >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> > >> >
> > >> > Carl
> > >> >
> > >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Robb S wrote:
> > >> > > >LOL
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Let's hope.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> > >
> > >
the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
an arrow.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
flywheel and the pilot bearing.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> > bearing in that.
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
The
> > > new
> > > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > > that
> > > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > > machined.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> > >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> > >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> > >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> > >>
> > >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> > >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole
where
> > >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
of
> > >> the engine.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
flywheel
> > > is on
> > >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
and
> > >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
my
> > > head
> > >> > hurts.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
all
> > > back
> > >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > > bearing
> > >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
the
> > >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
it
> > > the
> > >> > trans up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
flywheel
> > > back
> > >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > > pressure
> > >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
workout
> > >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> > >> >
> > >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> > >> >
> > >> > Carl
> > >> >
> > >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Robb S wrote:
> > >> > > >LOL
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Let's hope.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> > >
> > >
08-02-2005, 09:39 PM
#154
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Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
I stand corrected.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
08-02-2005, 09:39 PM
#155
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
I stand corrected.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
08-02-2005, 09:39 PM
#156
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
I stand corrected.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
08-02-2005, 09:39 PM
#157
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal UPDATE: PICS
I stand corrected.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> OK guys, I am completely confused now. There appears to be a a provision in
> the back of the crank to accomodate a raised casting in the flywheel that
> the pilot bearing sits in. Here are some pics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...l/flywheel.jpg
> This is the face of the flywheel that I had machined. The pilot bearing has
> an arrow.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/...el/flyrear.jpg
> This is the rear (engine side) of the flywheel, which shows the rear of the
> pilot bearing and the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/pilot.jpg
> This is a closeup of the raised casting in the rear (engine side) of the
> flywheel and the pilot bearing.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/engine.jpg
> This is the rear of the engine, which shows the six holes for the flywheel
> bolts, and the provision for the raised casting.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/carlsaiyed/flywheel/crank.jpg
> This is a closeup of the provision for the raised casting on the flywheel.
>
> Am I right that this bearing is the pilot bearing?
>
> Looking back at the thread, I think I see the problem. I have the 2.5L 4
> banger, not the 258 or 4.0.
>
> Carl
08-02-2005, 09:41 PM
#158
Guest
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Re: Flywheel removal
Acually I may be thinking of what it looked like when I put in the
bearing, I can't remeber if when I took my flywheel off to resurface if it
had a 4" hole in it then from crank, maybe you are right. I was just
thinking with flywheel in, you look at it and there is the little 3/4"
bearing in the middle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
>> bearing in that.
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Mike -
>> >
>> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
>> > The
>> > new
>> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>> > that
>> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>> > machined.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>> >>
>> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
>> >> of
>> >> the engine.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>
>> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
>> >> > flywheel
>> > is on
>> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
>> >> > and
>> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
>> >> > my
>> > head
>> >> > hurts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
>> >> > all
>> > back
>> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>> > bearing
>> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
>> >> > the
>> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
>> >> > it
>> > the
>> >> > trans up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
>> >> > flywheel
>> > back
>> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>> > pressure
>> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
>> >> > workout
>> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Robb S wrote:
>> >> > > >LOL
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Let's hope.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>> >
>> >
bearing, I can't remeber if when I took my flywheel off to resurface if it
had a 4" hole in it then from crank, maybe you are right. I was just
thinking with flywheel in, you look at it and there is the little 3/4"
bearing in the middle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
>> bearing in that.
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Mike -
>> >
>> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
>> > The
>> > new
>> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>> > that
>> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>> > machined.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>> >>
>> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
>> >> of
>> >> the engine.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>
>> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
>> >> > flywheel
>> > is on
>> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
>> >> > and
>> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
>> >> > my
>> > head
>> >> > hurts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
>> >> > all
>> > back
>> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>> > bearing
>> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
>> >> > the
>> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
>> >> > it
>> > the
>> >> > trans up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
>> >> > flywheel
>> > back
>> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>> > pressure
>> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
>> >> > workout
>> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Robb S wrote:
>> >> > > >LOL
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Let's hope.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>> >
>> >
08-02-2005, 09:41 PM
#159
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
Acually I may be thinking of what it looked like when I put in the
bearing, I can't remeber if when I took my flywheel off to resurface if it
had a 4" hole in it then from crank, maybe you are right. I was just
thinking with flywheel in, you look at it and there is the little 3/4"
bearing in the middle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
>> bearing in that.
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Mike -
>> >
>> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
>> > The
>> > new
>> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>> > that
>> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>> > machined.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>> >>
>> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
>> >> of
>> >> the engine.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>
>> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
>> >> > flywheel
>> > is on
>> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
>> >> > and
>> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
>> >> > my
>> > head
>> >> > hurts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
>> >> > all
>> > back
>> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>> > bearing
>> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
>> >> > the
>> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
>> >> > it
>> > the
>> >> > trans up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
>> >> > flywheel
>> > back
>> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>> > pressure
>> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
>> >> > workout
>> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Robb S wrote:
>> >> > > >LOL
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Let's hope.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>> >
>> >
bearing, I can't remeber if when I took my flywheel off to resurface if it
had a 4" hole in it then from crank, maybe you are right. I was just
thinking with flywheel in, you look at it and there is the little 3/4"
bearing in the middle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
>> bearing in that.
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Mike -
>> >
>> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
>> > The
>> > new
>> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>> > that
>> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>> > machined.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>> >>
>> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
>> >> of
>> >> the engine.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>
>> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
>> >> > flywheel
>> > is on
>> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
>> >> > and
>> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
>> >> > my
>> > head
>> >> > hurts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
>> >> > all
>> > back
>> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>> > bearing
>> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
>> >> > the
>> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
>> >> > it
>> > the
>> >> > trans up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
>> >> > flywheel
>> > back
>> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>> > pressure
>> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
>> >> > workout
>> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Robb S wrote:
>> >> > > >LOL
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Let's hope.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>> >
>> >
08-02-2005, 09:41 PM
#160
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
Acually I may be thinking of what it looked like when I put in the
bearing, I can't remeber if when I took my flywheel off to resurface if it
had a 4" hole in it then from crank, maybe you are right. I was just
thinking with flywheel in, you look at it and there is the little 3/4"
bearing in the middle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
>> bearing in that.
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Mike -
>> >
>> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
>> > The
>> > new
>> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>> > that
>> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>> > machined.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>> >>
>> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
>> >> of
>> >> the engine.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>
>> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
>> >> > flywheel
>> > is on
>> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
>> >> > and
>> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
>> >> > my
>> > head
>> >> > hurts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
>> >> > all
>> > back
>> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>> > bearing
>> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
>> >> > the
>> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
>> >> > it
>> > the
>> >> > trans up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
>> >> > flywheel
>> > back
>> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>> > pressure
>> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
>> >> > workout
>> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Robb S wrote:
>> >> > > >LOL
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Let's hope.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>> >
>> >
bearing, I can't remeber if when I took my flywheel off to resurface if it
had a 4" hole in it then from crank, maybe you are right. I was just
thinking with flywheel in, you look at it and there is the little 3/4"
bearing in the middle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EF856A.E2D6C361@sympatico.ca...
> Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
> engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
>
> All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
> The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
> sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
> bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
>
> When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
> 5 bolts in an offset pattern.
>
> When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
> old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
> crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
>
> Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
> have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
> also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
> flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
>
> http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
>> bearing in that.
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Mike -
>> >
>> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank.
>> > The
>> > new
>> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>> > that
>> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>> > machined.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>> >>
>> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end
>> >> of
>> >> the engine.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>
>> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced
>> >> > flywheel
>> > is on
>> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts
>> >> > and
>> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and
>> >> > my
>> > head
>> >> > hurts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it
>> >> > all
>> > back
>> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>> > bearing
>> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in
>> >> > the
>> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put
>> >> > it
>> > the
>> >> > trans up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the
>> >> > flywheel
>> > back
>> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>> > pressure
>> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good
>> >> > workout
>> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >> >
>> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Robb S wrote:
>> >> > > >LOL
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Let's hope.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>> >
>> >